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Old 12-28-2012, 07:25 PM   #31
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In the end, the rule seems to be written in the Code of Federal Regulations, so it doesn't matter why, as the flight crew is unable to make a legal exception.

The key is why the rule was codified, since the government is always reactive in these instances. Back in the 1980s, one could use a walkman cassette player without trouble, and recently, the in-flight video/entertainment system can distract as much as an ipod or kindle. Thus, enough somethings have occurred to cause the slow moving government apparatus to take action banning all use of devices, so they made the rule.

Besides even if we knew the reason, we, as humans, would make a tactical decision as to whether our device qualified or not, and many of us do not understand the gadgets we use well enough to make the judgement call.

In the end, I guess it doesn't really matter why, it is just the rules that we, and the flight crew, must follow, and note the greatest exposure to retaliation if an electronic device did cause a problem (or injury, unsafe situation, etc) would be the flight crew for not enforcing the law.

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Old 12-28-2012, 10:39 PM   #32
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hmmm...ok. I probably never paid attention, but now I have a kindle for reading... It surprised me about the regular camera though<i'd never heard that either. I think what got me thinking about this was another thread with the title" I should have landed 15 minutes ago"....so the person was obviously using a device while circling/waiting....made me wonder if I'd just been missing all this.....
FWIW,I don't think it interferes with plane stuff either...and I don't mind turning stuff off(though I wanted to keep reading lol) it just seemed,really enforced. Last week we had to circle/wait for Airforce 1 to clear,and we had to keep everything shut down for about an hour.....
Yeah, I never cared until I had a Kindle, ha. So now I save a magazine for the takeoff/landing.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:35 AM   #33
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Shutting off cameras seems a little odd to me. A man sitting next to me was taking pictures out the window after the "shut off electronic devices" announcement was made. The flight attendant walking by was unnecessarily rude telling him to turn it off.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:14 AM   #34
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Frankly, I'm surprised that the FAs are as polite about this as they usually are, as it seems like every fourth passenger thinks they are exempt. It may or may not be necessary, but the announcement is always clear: If it has an on/off switch, it has to be off. That would include digital cameras.

I usually grab a paper at the airport lounge for takeoff and landing. It is one of the few times I still read "dead tree" material.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:49 PM   #35
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Quite understand electronic devices being turned off when you're below 10,000 feet.

My question is...someone mentioned being stuck in a holding pattern for an hour while waiting for Air Force One. If a plane was stuck not being able to land for an hour, wouldn't the pilot rise the plane aboe 10,000 feet (since there is nowhere to go)? Or would they keep you below 10,000 feet, making your cell phones, iPads and Kindles useless?
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:08 AM   #36
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:16 AM   #37
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If a plane was stuck not being able to land for an hour, wouldn't the pilot rise the plane aboe 10,000 feet (since there is nowhere to go)? Or would they keep you below 10,000 feet, making your cell phones, iPads and Kindles useless?
Probably at the discretion of air traffic control, not the pilot. And, there are lots of other factors to consider beyond your kindle---fuel remaining, how busy the airspace is, how much of a buffer around AF1 they want, etc. etc. etc.
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IDK, but one lady near me tried to use her phone,and got shut down fast... once they told us to shut stuff off, it wasn't allowed back on while we waited. SO I shopped at skymall LOL....have you SEEN some of that stuff?
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Old 01-01-2013, 03:57 PM   #39
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Airplane mode is for above 10K feet. And yes, anything with an 'on/off' switch needs to be off as long as the boarding door is closed and the plane is below 10K feet.
Sorry but you are incorrect. Airplane mode means the wifi is shut off as well. So, you what is gogo for then if you can't turn on wifi? Like I said earlier...airplane mode is useless!
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:31 PM   #40
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Skymall is exactly what I use to pass my time when I have to have my Nook turned off. I really hadn't paid attention to this rule until I got my Nook. Sigh..... At least Skymall is entertaining.
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This has been essentially debunked by experts inside and outside the industry. The Mythbusters episode mentioned earlier found no interference with commercially available equiptment and merely speculated that perhaps older equip with no shielding would be affected. Of course they would also be affected then by cell towers and any number of other things. I have several mechanic friends with major airlines that tell me they know this is myth and devices are used in the cockpit by the crew that put off the same waves and have no effect so a passenger 100 feet away certainly should not cause a problem.

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Sorry but you are incorrect. Airplane mode means the wifi is shut off as well. So, you what is gogo for then if you can't turn on wifi? Like I said earlier...airplane mode is useless!
Sorry, you are incorrect. On at least some phones (mine being one of them), you can turn on WiFi regardless of Airplane mode being on. WiFi *IS* allowed above 10K feet.
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Sorry, you are incorrect. On at least some phones (mine being one of them), you can turn on WiFi regardless of Airplane mode being on. WiFi *IS* allowed above 10K feet.
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On my iPhone, I can use wi-fi when my phone is in airplane mode.
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Maybe I'm getting crotchety in my not so old age, but it's not a hard to follow the flight crew's instructions. They do have the rules in place for a reason, whatever reason that may be, it doesn't matter.

They do have the right to return to the gate and remove passengers who refuse to comply.

It just happened this week here in Indy.
http://www.wibc.com/news/story.aspx?ID=1853765

"A man from Colorado was arrested Wednesday at Indianapolis International Airport for refusing to turn off his cell phone on board a Southwest Airlines flight taking off for Denver."

My unsolicited advice...just turn of the devices when asked, and enjoy the flight. It's only a few hours (coast to coast), and I'm sure it won't kill anyone to actually pick up a magazine/physical book and read....personally, I prefer to carry paper with me to read, and enjoy the view from the windows.
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Maybe I'm getting crotchety in my not so old age, but it's not a hard to follow the flight crew's instructions. They do have the rules in place for a reason, whatever reason that may be, it doesn't matter.
Are we not allowed to discuss whether the reason is valid? I don't think anyone here has said "it's ok, just leave your device on, ignore the instructions". Of course you should follow ALL instructions.
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