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Old 12-13-2012, 06:36 AM   #76
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I don't know anyone IRL that is a prepper, but the TV show is interesting! Prepping takes a lot of $$ and time! My dd likes when they say "bug out vehicle." Dd and I laugh, but if the stuff does hit the fan I told her that the preppers will be having the last laugh!

The extent of our prepping is that I do stock up a little bit on food when it's on sale (that's more of a financial thing and not a prepping thing) so I might have more of an item, such as soup, on hand than usual now and then. If we know a hurricane or ice storm is coming, we'll make sure we have supplies to get us through that. That's about it.

It would be hard to be a prepper where we live. I think it's harder to be a prepper in the city than in the country where you have space to prep.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:35 AM   #77
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Totally TIC. We live in a small town and around here most people do have at least some of those things (and did before they became trendy/green, back in the days when you hung laundry to save money not to save the earth! ). Our location would probably be our biggest asset in a "doomsday" situation - a small, close-knit town with lots of old school rural types who know how to "get by" without a lot of modern conveniences. That's something that has come to annoy me about the Doomsday Preppers show - with the exception of a couple segments in the first season they all seem to be focusing on isolationist, me-against-the-world methods rather than community building, and I don't think any amount of stockpiled ammo can replace having friends/neighbors/family watching out for each other.
Absolutely. In pioneering days there seem to have been rugged individualists who would've felt right at home with the preppers, but there were a LOT of people who built communities out of whoever came along and settled within 5 or so miles of them. The people who built communities tended to do better when there were serious emergencies - I've done a LOT of research into one such community from about 1850 to 1880. There was a drought in this area during the Civil War when outlaws, the Confederates and the Union ALL came through and took everything everyone had. They should've all starved to death, but I've found records where everyone in the community was recorded along with their assets and foodstuffs so what little there was could be distributed to keep the entire community alive. (One community member, who had about 20 kids that he married off to almost every other family in that community, was actually on the lam for a murder, but I'm discovering seems to have been an orderly to a general in the Mexican War - his homestead apparently was NOT raided by the Union or the Confederates in the war and seems to have been off limits to both - I think his supplies probably kept a LOT of people from starving.)

It's a much better, much stronger survival technique than trying to out supply everyone else and go it alone. If it ever came down to the the end of civilization, we'd go to a piece of land we know of that isn't populated, and so would most of the people we know well. The farming there isn't the greatest ever, but it's tolerable for small gardens, and there's enough wild game and wild foodstuffs to survive. (After all the American Indians in the region built nice civilizations pre-farming; it can be done.)

A community will survive better than one person - preppers seem to be fixated on the notion that no one will come and try to take their foodstuffs or that 2 people can fend off a hundred. . .maybe, but that would be a sad way to survive.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:47 PM   #78
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Absolutely. In pioneering days there seem to have been rugged individualists who would've felt right at home with the preppers, but there were a LOT of people who built communities out of whoever came along and settled within 5 or so miles of them. The people who built communities tended to do better when there were serious emergencies - I've done a LOT of research into one such community from about 1850 to 1880. There was a drought in this area during the Civil War when outlaws, the Confederates and the Union ALL came through and took everything everyone had. They should've all starved to death, but I've found records where everyone in the community was recorded along with their assets and foodstuffs so what little there was could be distributed to keep the entire community alive. (One community member, who had about 20 kids that he married off to almost every other family in that community, was actually on the lam for a murder, but I'm discovering seems to have been an orderly to a general in the Mexican War - his homestead apparently was NOT raided by the Union or the Confederates in the war and seems to have been off limits to both - I think his supplies probably kept a LOT of people from starving.)

It's a much better, much stronger survival technique than trying to out supply everyone else and go it alone. If it ever came down to the the end of civilization, we'd go to a piece of land we know of that isn't populated, and so would most of the people we know well. The farming there isn't the greatest ever, but it's tolerable for small gardens, and there's enough wild game and wild foodstuffs to survive. (After all the American Indians in the region built nice civilizations pre-farming; it can be done.)

A community will survive better than one person - preppers seem to be fixated on the notion that no one will come and try to take their foodstuffs or that 2 people can fend off a hundred. . .maybe, but that would be a sad way to survive.
Yes, I think after the initial shock & hub-bub, it will be back to the ways of the pioneers trying to settle the West again. The best books, movies & research to do is to read up on how all the pioneers & settlers survived.


Even in Road Warrior, Mel Gibson was able to defeat the enemies circling around the compound by the whole group banding together and distracting them while someone saved what was left of the gas.

4 Days after Hurricane Sandy, gas was one of the first things we ran out of. It really reminded me of Road Warrior, with people fighting over gas. One guy in NJ even pulled out a gun on another person in line. Luckily the police arrived. Except later, they started making rules that the gas needed to be reserved for police, fire & emergency vehicles while regular people waited in lines for hours to get some gas. Things will not end well at the end of the world.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:42 PM   #79
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Beau, can I come and hang out in your bunker? I know you said I could friend you on FB. Since I don't do FB, I couldn't do that. But, I'll eat some of your canned goods if that's alright?



Bring craft stuff. We can keep busy. :D
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well, that is, in between all that survival stuff we need to do like: hunting, farming, cooking, baking, melting lead & making bullets, raising bees & harvesting the honey & making bees wax candles, skinning animals & making clothes & moccassins, cutting wood & keeping the fire going, fetching the water, feeding the livestock, making lumber & building shelter & fences......

Ya know, in our free time.
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well, that is, in between all that survival stuff we need to do like: hunting, farming, cooking, baking, melting lead & making bullets, raising bees & harvesting the honey & making bees wax candles, skinning animals & making clothes & moccassins, cutting wood & keeping the fire going, fetching the water, feeding the livestock, making lumber & building shelter & fences......

Ya know, in our free time.

Hmm . . . Well, the bees wax candlemaking and making clothes & moccassins can fall under some type of crafts. . .

But, when do we SLEEP???
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well, that is, in between all that survival stuff we need to do like: hunting, farming, cooking, baking, melting lead & making bullets, raising bees & harvesting the honey & making bees wax candles, skinning animals & making clothes & moccassins, cutting wood & keeping the fire going, fetching the water, feeding the livestock, making lumber & building shelter & fences......

Ya know, in our free time.
If we wind up in the same pioneer community, I'll trade you bee keeping for carding and spinning. (I don't mind getting stung so much, but I cannot STAND the noise those cotton and wool carders make. Sets my teeth on edge.)
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Hmm . . . Well, the bees wax candlemaking and making clothes & moccassins can fall under some type of crafts. . .

But, when do we SLEEP???
You're a chick. We just sort of fall into bed out of sheer exhaustion every night, then are expected to get up BEFORE everyone else and start all over again the next day.
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