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Old 10-04-2012, 09:26 PM   #1
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Ferry from St. Thomas to St. John

Hello DISers;

I am on the Dec 23 Eastern Caribbean cruise out of Miami. We are docking in St. Thomas, and I want to go to the National Park on St. John, but don't want to do the pricey excursion. It looks like there are regular ferries from the Charlotte Amelie docks to St. John---has anyone done this on their own? There are a number of ferry services--any recommendations?

Thanks for any advice!
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We chartered a sailboat. Not cheap but worth it. St. John is absolute splendor. You won't regret going there from St. Thomas.
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Thank you--would you recommend any charter in particular?
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #4
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I just was in St Thomas for 10 days and took the ferry to St John a few times. You can catch one in Red Hook or CHarlotte Amalie over to St John. They go very often. Just remember to leave the Island about 1 and 1/2 hours before you want to get back so you have time to get a taxi back to the ferry port and then for the fery ride back (approx 15 mins) to St Thomas and then the taxi back to the ship. It is worth it though. Trunk Bay is a beautiful beach
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:17 AM   #5
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Just make sure on that your own, you give yourself plenty of time to get back to the ship....they will not wait!

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Old 10-05-2012, 07:44 AM   #6
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STT to STJ and back without missing the boat

We are regular visitors to St. John and frequent cruisers on DCL. We have made the journey from Havensight to Red Hook to Cruz Bay to a beach and back many times. It is relatively easy, but you need to make sure that you are back to the dock in time. The Charlotte Amalie to Cruz Bay ferry is notoriously unreliable in that some days when it is scheduled to run it simply is not operational. They are very much on "Island Time." Your best bet is a taxi ride to Red Hook, ferry ride to Cruz Bay and a taxi ride to whichever St. John beach you wish to visit.

The North Shore beaches are the only beaches that cruisers realistically have a chance to reach and still make it back to the ship. Here are a few that I would recommend that you think about.

Trunk Bay is the "post card" beach -- beautiful, many services (snack bar, restrooms, gift shop, snorkel rentals, showers) but very crowed at times -- where "everyone" seems to go to. For beginner snorkelers in particular there is an underwater snorkel trail that is very nice to try out. Do it early when the crowds are not too large and there are not many people in the water for a better experience. There is a nominal admission fee charged for entry during "operating hours." If you arrive at Trunk early (probably before 9:00 am "Island Time") you can avoid the fee because no one is there to collect it. If there are more than, say, two ships in St. Thomas, Trunk WILL get crowded, especially during Christmas week. Taxis wait at Trunk to take fares back into Cruz Bay. If you don't make an arrangement for your "outbound" taxi to pick you up, you can always catch a taxi in the Trunk parking lot.

Cinnamon Bay is just beyond Trunk and has many similar services, no snorkel trail though, and the surf can be rough at times. Taxis wait here as well.

Maho Bay is beyond Cinnamon and one of my favorites. It has restrooms but nothing else. The bay is protected and the water much calmer than Trunk and Cinnamon. There is a lot of turtle grass here and a really nice reef on the right side of the bay. We always find sea turtles here, always more than one. The trouble with Maho is that it is so far from Cruz Bay that you will spend more time in the taxi getting there and back that you will have limited time to enjoy the beach and, most importantly, taxis don't wait for fares there. You will need to make arrangements to be picked up at a certain time.

Closer in to Cruz Bay is Caneel Bay, the famous resort founded by Laurence Rockefeller, the father of the USVI National Park. Absolutely beautiful property and two of the best beaches -- Caneel and Honeymoon -- that you can access from the resort. Great restaurant, gift shop, dive shop and floating dock and the reefs are great for snorkeling. Taxis wait in the resort parking lot and it is a six minute drive from the Cruz Bay ferry dock.

Hawksnest Bay is another beach between Caneel and Trunk. This is the "locals" beach and it also has a very nice snorkel area. Restrooms are available but nothing else. There are picnic tables under cover, so if you grab a lunch in Cruz Bay you can sit and enjoy the view. Taxis don't usually wait here, so you will need to arrange to be picked up.

We actually are booked on the December 15 Fantasy and will be doing St. John on our own. Here is our plan. We have arranged a private land taxi to take us from the port to Red Hook and back, and a private water taxi to take us from Red Hook to Cruz Bay and back. We are using Dohm's Water Taxi. Our plan is to leave the ship at 8:00 am and be standing on the Cruz Bay ferry dock before 9:00 am. Taxi to Caneel for the morning and early afternoon. Taxi back to Mongoose Junction (a little shopping area near the Cruz Bay ferry dock) and lunch at Deli Grotto. Do a little Christmas shopping and private water taxi back to Red Hook. All aboard for us is listed as 5:30. We want to be back no later than 4:00. The cost for this is significantly more than if we went with "regular"
taxi and the "regular" ferry on St. Thomas but is about the same cost as the DCL excursion. By going "private" transportation, we also control departure/arrival times and can maximize our time on St. John.

Hope this verbose explanation helps.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #7
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We are on the same sailing. We are considering St John as well.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:59 AM   #8
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Does this mean you don't recommend Honeymoon beach??

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We are regular visitors to St. John and frequent cruisers on DCL. We have made the journey from Havensight to Red Hook to Cruz Bay to a beach and back many times. It is relatively easy, but you need to make sure that you are back to the dock in time. The Charlotte Amalie to Cruz Bay ferry is notoriously unreliable in that some days when it is scheduled to run it simply is not operational. They are very much on "Island Time." Your best bet is a taxi ride to Red Hook, ferry ride to Cruz Bay and a taxi ride to whichever St. John beach you wish to visit.

The North Shore beaches are the only beaches that cruisers realistically have a chance to reach and still make it back to the ship. Here are a few that I would recommend that you think about.

Trunk Bay is the "post card" beach -- beautiful, many services (snack bar, restrooms, gift shop, snorkel rentals, showers) but very crowed at times -- where "everyone" seems to go to. For beginner snorkelers in particular there
n underwater snorkel trail that is very nice to try out. Do it early when the crowds are not too large and there are not many people in the water for a better experience. There is a nominal admission fee charged for entry during "operating hours." If you arrive at Trunk early (probably before 9:00 am "Island Time") you can avoid the fee because no one is there to collect it. If there are more than, say, two ships in St. Thomas, Trunk WILL get crowded, especially during Christmas week. Taxis wait at Trunk to take fares back into Cruz Bay. If you don't make an arrangement for your "outbound" taxi to pick you up, you can always catch a taxi in the Trunk parking lot.

Cinnamon Bay is just beyond Trunk and has many similar services, no snorkel trail though, and the surf can be rough at times. Taxis wait here as well.

Maho Bay is beyond Cinnamon and one of my favorites. It has restrooms but nothing else. The bay is protected and the water much calmer than Trunk and Cinnamon. There is a lot of turtle grass here and a really nice reef on the right side of the bay. We always find sea turtles here, always more than one. The trouble with Maho is that it is so far from Cruz Bay that you will spend more time in the taxi getting there and back that you will have limited time to enjoy the beach and, most importantly, taxis don't wait for fares there. You will need to make arrangements to be picked up at a certain time.

Closer in to Cruz Bay is Caneel Bay, the famous resort founded by Laurence Rockefeller, the father of the USVI National Park. Absolutely beautiful property and two of the best beaches -- Caneel and Honeymoon -- that you can access from the resort. Great restaurant, gift shop, dive shop and floating dock and the reefs are great for snorkeling. Taxis wait in the resort parking lot and it is a six minute drive from the Cruz Bay ferry dock.

Hawksnest Bay is another beach between Caneel and Trunk. This is the "locals" beach and it also has a very nice snorkel area. Restrooms are available but nothing else. There are picnic tables under cover, so if you grab a lunch in Cruz Bay you can sit and enjoy the view. Taxis don't usually wait here, so you will need to arrange to be picked up.

We actually are booked on the December 15 Fantasy and will be doing St. John on our own. Here is our plan. We have arranged a private land taxi to take us from the port to Red Hook and back, and a private water taxi to take us from Red Hook to Cruz Bay and back. We are using Dohm's Water Taxi. Our plan is to leave the ship at 8:00 am and be standing on the Cruz Bay ferry dock before 9:00 am. Taxi to Caneel for the morning and early afternoon. Taxi back to Mongoose Junction (a little shopping area near the Cruz Bay ferry dock) and lunch at Deli Grotto. Do a little Christmas shopping and private water taxi back to Red Hook. All aboard for us is listed as 5:30. We want to be back no later than 4:00. The cost for this is significantly more than if we went with "regular"
taxi and the "regular" ferry on St. Thomas but is about the same cost as the DCL excursion. By going "private" transportation, we also control departure/arrival times and can maximize our time on St. John.

Hope this verbose explanation helps.
We booked an excursion from the ship to St. John and Honeymoon Beach, did we pick the wrong beach??/ You seem knowledable about the island and now I'm concerned we aren't doing the right thing! HELP!
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Sorry that I wasn't very clear. Honeymoon is a great beach and a lovely bay. I consider it to be part of Caneel, at least for purposes of approaching by land. When we go in December we will spend part of our time on Honeymoon. Great snorkeling and the National Park Service has a concession there now that has a gift shop/snorkel/watercraft rental and the ability to order food from Caneel. The beach is usually not that crowded because you get there by a 10 minute hike from Caneel or a 25 minute hike from the National Park HQ. At times, there are quite a few boats from STT in the bay dropping off daytrippers.

We did the 1/2 day catamaran trip on the Adventurer two years ago. Cannot recommend it enough --it was fantastic. The ride to the East End of STT is a bit of a drag, but I am not a big fan of STT, I am a bit of a STJ snob. The boat ride between STT and STJ is great fun. Going to STJ they ran the engines, coming back it was all wind. You get a totally different perspective on STJ and Honeymoon from the sea. You will have a blast!
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:22 PM   #10
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We are regular visitors to St. John and frequent cruisers on DCL. We have made the journey from Havensight to Red Hook to Cruz Bay to a beach and back many times. It is relatively easy, but you need to make sure that you are back to the dock in time. The Charlotte Amalie to Cruz Bay ferry is notoriously unreliable in that some days when it is scheduled to run it simply is not operational. They are very much on "Island Time." Your best bet is a taxi ride to Red Hook, ferry ride to Cruz Bay and a taxi ride to whichever St. John beach you wish to visit.

The North Shore beaches are the only beaches that cruisers realistically have a chance to reach and still make it back to the ship. Here are a few that I would recommend that you think about.

Trunk Bay is the "post card" beach -- beautiful, many services (snack bar, restrooms, gift shop, snorkel rentals, showers) but very crowed at times -- where "everyone" seems to go to. For beginner snorkelers in particular there is an underwater snorkel trail that is very nice to try out. Do it early when the crowds are not too large and there are not many people in the water for a better experience. There is a nominal admission fee charged for entry during "operating hours." If you arrive at Trunk early (probably before 9:00 am "Island Time") you can avoid the fee because no one is there to collect it. If there are more than, say, two ships in St. Thomas, Trunk WILL get crowded, especially during Christmas week. Taxis wait at Trunk to take fares back into Cruz Bay. If you don't make an arrangement for your "outbound" taxi to pick you up, you can always catch a taxi in the Trunk parking lot.

Cinnamon Bay is just beyond Trunk and has many similar services, no snorkel trail though, and the surf can be rough at times. Taxis wait here as well.

Maho Bay is beyond Cinnamon and one of my favorites. It has restrooms but nothing else. The bay is protected and the water much calmer than Trunk and Cinnamon. There is a lot of turtle grass here and a really nice reef on the right side of the bay. We always find sea turtles here, always more than one. The trouble with Maho is that it is so far from Cruz Bay that you will spend more time in the taxi getting there and back that you will have limited time to enjoy the beach and, most importantly, taxis don't wait for fares there. You will need to make arrangements to be picked up at a certain time.

Closer in to Cruz Bay is Caneel Bay, the famous resort founded by Laurence Rockefeller, the father of the USVI National Park. Absolutely beautiful property and two of the best beaches -- Caneel and Honeymoon -- that you can access from the resort. Great restaurant, gift shop, dive shop and floating dock and the reefs are great for snorkeling. Taxis wait in the resort parking lot and it is a six minute drive from the Cruz Bay ferry dock.

Hawksnest Bay is another beach between Caneel and Trunk. This is the "locals" beach and it also has a very nice snorkel area. Restrooms are available but nothing else. There are picnic tables under cover, so if you grab a lunch in Cruz Bay you can sit and enjoy the view. Taxis don't usually wait here, so you will need to arrange to be picked up.

We actually are booked on the December 15 Fantasy and will be doing St. John on our own. Here is our plan. We have arranged a private land taxi to take us from the port to Red Hook and back, and a private water taxi to take us from Red Hook to Cruz Bay and back. We are using Dohm's Water Taxi. Our plan is to leave the ship at 8:00 am and be standing on the Cruz Bay ferry dock before 9:00 am. Taxi to Caneel for the morning and early afternoon. Taxi back to Mongoose Junction (a little shopping area near the Cruz Bay ferry dock) and lunch at Deli Grotto. Do a little Christmas shopping and private water taxi back to Red Hook. All aboard for us is listed as 5:30. We want to be back no later than 4:00. The cost for this is significantly more than if we went with "regular"
taxi and the "regular" ferry on St. Thomas but is about the same cost as the DCL excursion. By going "private" transportation, we also control departure/arrival times and can maximize our time on St. John.

Hope this verbose explanation helps.
That helps enormously! We wanted to try to hike a least a bit in the national park--so time will be tight, but I will definitely check out Dohm's and see what we can do. By the way--I wonder if your 3Rivers are the same ones as in my city?
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We are on the same sailing. We are considering St John as well.
It looks like a uniquely beautiful place--and we have the National Park Service passport--and I can't miss the chance to get it stamped in one of the most remote national parks!
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If your city has great football and hockey teams, mediocre baseball and eats sandwiches with the fries and slaw on them, they could be one in the same.
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If your city has great football and hockey teams, mediocre baseball and eats sandwiches with the fries and slaw on them, they could be one in the same.
Oh--I know who yinz is talking about!
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Here we go . . .
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If you want to hike, there is a nice trail from Cruz Bay to Honeymoon. It takes about 30 to 45 minutes and it is pretty easy. Might be tough on little kids, but my 12 yo was doing it when he was 9, but he is a hiker. You can hang out at Honeymoon for a bit, head over to Caneel and catch a cab back to Cruz Bay.
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