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Old 12-06-2012, 03:47 PM   #211
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All Commonwealth realms have agreed to press ahead with a bill ending discrimination against women in the succession to the British throne.

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said the government would now introduce the Succession to the Crown Bill in the House of Commons as soon as possible.

It means the first child of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will become monarch, whether a boy or a girl.

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It will also end the ban on anyone in the line of succession marrying a Roman Catholic.

The legislation was agreed in principle at the Commonwealth heads of government meeting in Perth, Australia in October 2011.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:58 PM   #212
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Actually, from what you quoted, they cannot have a Roman Catholic spouse. I know that this was raised again when the male preference was raised, but it was not approved.
That's not how I am reading it:

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They also agreed that future monarchs should no longer be prohibited from marrying a Catholic – a law which dates from the Act of Settlement 1701, following the Glorious Revolution of 1688.
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That's not how I am reading it:
The second piece you quoted is recent. It's what is in process of being changed. Until the UK and all 16 Commonwealth members pass the legislation it still stands. Not sure what's so confusing?

The Queen's oldest grandson Peter Phillips married a Canadian girl couple years ago. She was Catholic and converted.

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Old 12-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #214
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I am so glad for Kate! The whole country has been waiting for this news since their wedding. I am dreading though seeing headlines like:

KATE STAYS FASHIONABLE EVEN WHEN PREGNANT

Everyday for the next nine months! I'm glad she's having a baby but the media is now focusing on her even more than they were. I do feel sorry for her sometimes, she is a little like a show pony... People are always watching her, more than they ever watched William or Harry.

From reading this thread, you guys are really interested in the royal family lol. No, she is no longer called Kate Middleton, but the media and public still call her that and will do for the unforeseeable future. This happens in the UK too, and no one here really calls her the Duchess of Cambridge very often.

And as for the fact that many of you think Kate's achievements are not very good and she is not necessarily deserving, none of us can really make a judgement because we do not know her personally. However I do think now, as William's wife she is working extremely hard. Her life is filled up with obligations and schedules Monday to Sunday. She has given up so much to marry into the royal family.

If you want to moan about someone royal it should be Beatrice and Eugenie. They do NO royal duties or service and get many royal perks. They have just been ordered to pay £20,000 rent a year for their home in an expensive part of London (their father is footing the bill... And I wonder where he got his money from ) yet average rent for a property of that size and in that area typically costs £100,000 to £150,000 in rent a year. Ugh.

In stark contrast, Kate is IMHO fully worthy of the perks she now receives since she is working flat out and no longer has any privacy.

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Old 12-06-2012, 05:52 PM   #215
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I am so glad for Kate! The whole country has been waiting for this news since their wedding. I am dreading though seeing headlines like:

KATE STAYS FASHIONABLE EVEN WHEN PREGNANT

Everyday for the next nine months! I'm glad she's having a baby but the media is now focusing on her even more than they were. I do feel sorry for her sometimes, she is a little like a show pony... People are always watching her, more than they ever watched William or Harry.

From reading this thread, you guys are really interested in the royal family lol. No, she is no longer called Kate Middleton, but the media and public still call her that and will do for the unforeseeable future. This happens in the UK too, and no one here really calls her the Duchess of Cambridge very often.

And as for the fact that many of you think Kate's achievements are not very good and she is not necessarily deserving, none of us can really make a judgement because we do not know her personally. However I do think now, as William's wife she is working extremely hard. Her life is filled up with obligations and schedules Monday to Sunday. She has given up so much to marry into the royal family.

If you want to moan about someone royal it should be Beatrice and Eugenie. They do NO royal duties or service and get many royal perks. They have just been ordered to pay £20,000 rent a year for their home in an expensive part of London (their father is footing the bill... And I wonder where he got his money from ) yet average rent for a property of that size and in that area typically costs £100,000 to £150,000 in rent a year. Ugh.

In stark contrast, Kate is IMHO fully worthy of the perks she now receives since she is working flat out and no longer has any privacy.

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I wouldn't say many of us don't think her achievements are not much. It's just one or two.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:14 PM   #216
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I wouldn't say many of us don't think her achievements are not much. It's just one or two.
And really, it isn't about what she has accomplished in her 20+ years. It is about the fact that William fell in love with her.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:44 AM   #217
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I watched the royal wedding online, when William and Catherine where in the carriage on the way back to the palace someone (claiming to be american but no proof of that) wrote on the daily mail comments that they hoped Catherine would be shot in the head and bleed to death over William. According to the royal gossip forum the only reason that William married was because he was either
1 blackmailed into it, one theory is that he slept with her brother
2 he is a drug addicted moron who fell for her
3 he is insane and needs to be forcibly committed and divorced and given a proper wife. When I say proper virginal is the main point they had a bride lined up for him a miss mystery

Does anyone believe KM knows about "MM" because I certainly do! She knew PW was waiting for "MM" and should have stepped aside and away from PW and told him to pursue the woman of his love. Any woman of honour would have. I remember on the other thread people asking why PW was so happy horsing around with his cousins during the years 2008-2010, and maybe it was because he was waiting for "MM"? Maybe he doesn't realise "MM" is a very distant cousin and if he did he would have found her so much easier instead of him waiting for "MM" during that time period? He must have been waiting for "MM" for years now and he wouldn't have been the only one doing so. I am so curious to know what finally broke PW to make him propose to KM... I have my theories... Does anyone believe he wasn't only pressurised with the press but also pursued relentlessly by many and others behind the scenes in ways that have not been mentioned widely if at all in the press and done so because PW was waiting for "MM" and it didn't fit in with certain individuals plans to force, bully, harass, impose, etc, him to marry KM? (IMO, of course, of course...)

And yes, Kuei Fei, PW was definitely wrong to insult all Christians with that filthy mockery in Westminster Abbey with the gutter sl!t but maybe this is the end of a union between the Crown and The Church of England? Also, too many people wish to see an end to the monarchy in England... this is definitely a conspiracy with too many people failing to do their jobs they get PAID to do! Including the Metropolitan Police. Seriously, stalk another statesman in the open and go to jail, be put in a 50-50 hold, the authorities will mandatorily and by right of law place a restraining order upon you but NOT in England?? This is the future sovereign for crying out loud!

If dumb Willy was preparing to kick her to the curb, she and the Midds one upped him and the royals. He should've ignored her like he seemed to have done during the Jubilee and Olympics. He should've known that she'd play the pregnancy card. The only way for him to get out from under this is if 1. She has a misscarrage or 2. He actually growles a pair and not let the Midds dictate and rule the roost. He'd play up the lie that they're both down to earth people and live modestly. Unfortunately I can only see the first option to be his way out. He strikes me as a stupid moody man who has tantrum but let others control and walk over him. The Midds play this fool boy/man like a fiddle whilst he thinks he's in control.

They have accused her of being a sl*t, a prostitute called her family the middletrashes its utterly insane.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:03 AM   #218
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I watched the royal wedding online, when William and Catherine where in the carriage on the way back to the palace someone (claiming to be american but no proof of that) wrote on the daily mail comments that they hoped Catherine would be shot in the head and bleed to death over William. According to the royal gossip forum the only reason that William married was because he was either
1 blackmailed into it, one theory is that he slept with her brother
2 he is a drug addicted moron who fell for her
3 he is insane and needs to be forcibly committed and divorced and given a proper wife. When I say proper virginal is the main point they had a bride lined up for him a miss mystery

Does anyone believe KM knows about "MM" because I certainly do! She knew PW was waiting for "MM" and should have stepped aside and away from PW and told him to pursue the woman of his love. Any woman of honour would have. I remember on the other thread people asking why PW was so happy horsing around with his cousins during the years 2008-2010, and maybe it was because he was waiting for "MM"? Maybe he doesn't realise "MM" is a very distant cousin and if he did he would have found her so much easier instead of him waiting for "MM" during that time period? He must have been waiting for "MM" for years now and he wouldn't have been the only one doing so. I am so curious to know what finally broke PW to make him propose to KM... I have my theories... Does anyone believe he wasn't only pressurised with the press but also pursued relentlessly by many and others behind the scenes in ways that have not been mentioned widely if at all in the press and done so because PW was waiting for "MM" and it didn't fit in with certain individuals plans to force, bully, harass, impose, etc, him to marry KM? (IMO, of course, of course...)

And yes, Kuei Fei, PW was definitely wrong to insult all Christians with that filthy mockery in Westminster Abbey with the gutter sl!t but maybe this is the end of a union between the Crown and The Church of England? Also, too many people wish to see an end to the monarchy in England... this is definitely a conspiracy with too many people failing to do their jobs they get PAID to do! Including the Metropolitan Police. Seriously, stalk another statesman in the open and go to jail, be put in a 50-50 hold, the authorities will mandatorily and by right of law place a restraining order upon you but NOT in England?? This is the future sovereign for crying out loud!

If dumb Willy was preparing to kick her to the curb, she and the Midds one upped him and the royals. He should've ignored her like he seemed to have done during the Jubilee and Olympics. He should've known that she'd play the pregnancy card. The only way for him to get out from under this is if 1. She has a misscarrage or 2. He actually growles a pair and not let the Midds dictate and rule the roost. He'd play up the lie that they're both down to earth people and live modestly. Unfortunately I can only see the first option to be his way out. He strikes me as a stupid moody man who has tantrum but let others control and walk over him. The Midds play this fool boy/man like a fiddle whilst he thinks he's in control.

They have accused her of being a sl*t, a prostitute called her family the middletrashes its utterly insane.
OK, thoroughly confused now.

What of the above is you speaking and what is you quoting someone else?
If you are quoting somone else, who are you quoting?

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Old 12-07-2012, 06:47 AM   #219
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I watched the royal wedding online, when William and Catherine where in the carriage on the way back to the palace someone (claiming to be american but no proof of that) wrote on the daily mail comments that they hoped Catherine would be shot in the head and bleed to death over William. According to the royal gossip forum the only reason that William married was because he was either
1 blackmailed into it, one theory is that he slept with her brother
2 he is a drug addicted moron who fell for her
3 he is insane and needs to be forcibly committed and divorced and given a proper wife. When I say proper virginal is the main point they had a bride lined up for him a miss mystery

Does anyone believe KM knows about "MM" because I certainly do! She knew PW was waiting for "MM" and should have stepped aside and away from PW and told him to pursue the woman of his love. Any woman of honour would have. I remember on the other thread people asking why PW was so happy horsing around with his cousins during the years 2008-2010, and maybe it was because he was waiting for "MM"? Maybe he doesn't realise "MM" is a very distant cousin and if he did he would have found her so much easier instead of him waiting for "MM" during that time period? He must have been waiting for "MM" for years now and he wouldn't have been the only one doing so. I am so curious to know what finally broke PW to make him propose to KM... I have my theories... Does anyone believe he wasn't only pressurised with the press but also pursued relentlessly by many and others behind the scenes in ways that have not been mentioned widely if at all in the press and done so because PW was waiting for "MM" and it didn't fit in with certain individuals plans to force, bully, harass, impose, etc, him to marry KM? (IMO, of course, of course...)

And yes, Kuei Fei, PW was definitely wrong to insult all Christians with that filthy mockery in Westminster Abbey with the gutter sl!t but maybe this is the end of a union between the Crown and The Church of England? Also, too many people wish to see an end to the monarchy in England... this is definitely a conspiracy with too many people failing to do their jobs they get PAID to do! Including the Metropolitan Police. Seriously, stalk another statesman in the open and go to jail, be put in a 50-50 hold, the authorities will mandatorily and by right of law place a restraining order upon you but NOT in England?? This is the future sovereign for crying out loud!

If dumb Willy was preparing to kick her to the curb, she and the Midds one upped him and the royals. He should've ignored her like he seemed to have done during the Jubilee and Olympics. He should've known that she'd play the pregnancy card. The only way for him to get out from under this is if 1. She has a misscarrage or 2. He actually growles a pair and not let the Midds dictate and rule the roost. He'd play up the lie that they're both down to earth people and live modestly. Unfortunately I can only see the first option to be his way out. He strikes me as a stupid moody man who has tantrum but let others control and walk over him. The Midds play this fool boy/man like a fiddle whilst he thinks he's in control.

They have accused her of being a sl*t, a prostitute called her family the middletrashes its utterly insane.
I don't even understand most of this rant but to the bolded, the heck with that. Who doesn't want to be a princess?
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And you thought understanding who got to be called "Princess" was confusing.

I figured out who PW and KM are - but have no idea who "MM" is. Admittedly, I really only read the bolded line (the rest was to rambling to even bother trying).
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Let's discuss Kate's hair for a moment. It always looks as though she just walked out of the salon. Very healthy and beautiful without a hair out of place. Now, this lovely lady is expecting. Every expectant woman I have ever known has had incredibly beautiful hair. Something about the hormones and the prenatal vitamins. As such, we can only conclude that Kate's hair is going to get even more beautiful. I am also quite confident that she is going to be one of those expectant mothers whose body changes very little. One know the ones I am talking about. They look exactly the same, but like they have this little volleyball up their shirt. That will be her. I also see her and Will being much like Diana in that they want their child(ren) to know what it is like to live a normal life. They will be taken to McDonald's like Diana did with Will and Harry. When they visit WDW, they will stand in line just like all of us commoners. I'm really looking forward to seeing everything play out.
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And you thought understanding who got to be called "Princess" was confusing.

I figured out who PW and KM are - but have no idea who "MM" is. Admittedly, I really only read the bolded line (the rest was to rambling to even bother trying).
KM is Catherine PW is William and MM is the wonderful virginal Miss mystery that god was designing for William according to the nutcases.

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I have to think that it has to be very difficult to be married to Prince William. Think about it....your every move is watched, every time you step out of your house you are inundated with photographers, people criticizing your hair, your outfit, what you said, what you did. Your life is not your own. My thought is that the obvious financial/lifestyle perks might not be worth the headache of the rest of it.

So these kids went to college together, they dated for a number of years. She did a couple of professional things... I seem to recall photograpy and running a gallery of some sort then working for the family business....after college. Working for the family business was probably easier since it didn't necessarily involve having to leave the house all the time and deal with the photograpers, but of course, the drawback was no one saw her "going to work".

But I do think when one is dating/married to a future king, one's profession becomes being his girlfriend/wife. Is that good or bad? Well, I guess that depends on one's perspective, but in the Duchess' case, she seems to have decided that it was good. Comparison to Princess Diana...well, Diana worked in a nursey school until Charles proposed then she was whisked away to the Palace to learn how to be royal. The difference between a 19 year old kid & an almost 30 year old woman....

They seem to love each other. They seem to be well-connected in most of the photos I see of them. On their wedding day, I was pleased to see how solicitous Pirince William was of his bride...helping her in & out of the carriages, waiting for her, showing her the ropes, so to speak....very different from when his father married his mother, if one looks back on their wedding there are numerous times when Charles was barging off ahead leaving Diana to deal with getting herself around with her big dress. I just saw a different sense of connectedness between William and Catherine.

I wish them well. I especially wish her well because, despite the financial/lifestyle perks, I don't think it's an easy life.
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And yes, Kuei Fei, PW was definitely wrong to insult all Christians with that filthy mockery in Westminster Abbey with the gutter sl!t but maybe this is the end of a union between the Crown and The Church of England?
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