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Old 12-02-2012, 11:09 PM   #61
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I guess it amazes me sometimes. This is a DISNEY cruise folks. You want adults only then maybe you should try another one.
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I agree 100% with you!
I disagree. Haven't cruised DCL yet (10 more days) but I love that Disney has adult-only areas so that DH and I will actually get some time only on a family vacation. It's perfect!

Also, no one here is complaining because there are kids on a Disney cruise. The point is that some parents (maybe clueless or just rude?) are taking kids into adult-only areas when there are tons of family areas.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:34 PM   #62
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:24 AM   #63
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Dining--totally agree that DCL tries to seat "like" groups together. We have met some great people on the cruises; several that we are still in touch with, and 2 that we have made a point of sitting with or meeting up with on other cruises. If it doesn't work out with your tablemates, just tell the head server and you will be moved.

Also, request late dining--most families with young kids prefer main seating, so that in itself reduces the noise level in the main dining rooms. Still, they are crowded and a bit crazy at best, especially on the bigger ships. The MDRs are not classy dining. They are much more on the level of an O'Charley's or Olive Garden or just a touch up from that--nice but not overly fancy. The food is mass produced, obviously. We've had better food on other lines.

Years ago, DCL has a rotation that was families without children or with older kids; unfortunately, they got rid of that system.

Families come in all shapes, sizes, etc. and Disney/DCL welcomes them all. I am not a kid hater, but I do feel that children do not belong in adult only areas. As long as DCL advertises to adult only families and provides adult only spaces, they should enforce those areas. There are also child-only areas and activities where I am not welcome.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:27 AM   #64
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Families come in all shapes, sizes, etc. and Disney/DCL welcomes them all. I am not a kid hater, but I do feel that children do not belong in adult only areas. As long as DCL advertises to adult only families and provides adult only spaces, they should enforce those areas. There are also child-only areas and activities where I am not welcome.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:14 AM   #65
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I actually have some single ply superwash. I am dubious, but still.

STR should be fine. I don't need to worry about what I'm packing until mid-January. Well, probably earlier, since I've already planned out what I'm doing over Christmas break.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:58 AM   #66
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I guess it amazes me sometimes. This is a DISNEY cruise folks. You want adults only then maybe you should try another one.
I believe that anyone who cruises DCL fully expects there to be an abundant number children present. That is no problem. What does present a problem is that Disney advertises "Adult Only Areas" on their ships. There is a "Teen" club where adults are prohibited, a "pre-teen" area and and the Club for younger children. You wouldn't find adults in the beautiful "Teen" area or in the "Pre-Teen" club. You may find a couple of adults in the Oceaneers Club while they acclimate their little ones to the surroundings, but that is at a minimum. So why, since it is advertised, shouldn't adults expect their "Adult only" area(s)?? What is not acceptable is that with regard to the "Adult Areas" some parents feel that they don't have to follow the restrictions. They and their little darlings are above the "rules". Those adults are probably the first ones who would object if they found adults playing in the Oceaneers Club/Lab or in the Teen Club. That is where the problem lies - people who want it "their way" without regard to what has been promised to others.
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the fact that Disney won't seat adults traveling alone with a family unless you request it.
On the Fantasy in September they seated my group of three single women with a family of five who had an infant. The family asked to be moved because they wanted to talk amongst themselves. One of my friends had actually requested that we be seated with other adults. So yes, at times they WILL seat adults with a family.
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My 12 DCL cruises were all adult only trips (I'm that grown up kid Walt was talking about). I have only had a few instances of kids being in adult areas and all were the result of their parents being rude and thinking rules are for everybody else, it was not the kid's doing. I have in the past asked the cm's working near the adult pool to tell a parent to remove their child from the adult pool, I would never approach them myself, but will give them (the parent) the stinkeye.

We always have late seating for dinner, and it's usually fairly peaceful, and we spend most of our time on the ship in the adult only areas.

That said, I like kids, it's the parents that want to be be "besties" with their kids and not parent that drive me up the wall!
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I disagree. Haven't cruised DCL yet (10 more days) but I love that Disney has adult-only areas so that DH and I will actually get some time only on a family vacation. It's perfect!

Also, no one here is complaining because there are kids on a Disney cruise. The point is that some parents (maybe clueless or just rude?) are taking kids into adult-only areas when there are tons of family areas.
Completely agree!
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I believe that anyone who cruises DCL fully expects there to be an abundant number children present. That is no problem. What does present a problem is that Disney advertises "Adult Only Areas" on their ships. There is a "Teen" club where adults are prohibited, a "pre-teen" area and and the Club for younger children. You wouldn't find adults in the beautiful "Teen" area or in the "Pre-Teen" club. You may find a couple of adults in the Oceaneers Club while they acclimate their little ones to the surroundings, but that is at a minimum. So why, since it is advertised, shouldn't adults expect their "Adult only" area(s)?? What is not acceptable is that with regard to the "Adult Areas" some parents feel that they don't have to follow the restrictions. They and their little darlings are above the "rules". Those adults are probably the first ones who would object if they found adults playing in the Oceaneers Club/Lab or in the Teen Club. That is where the problem lies - people who want it "their way" without regard to what has been promised to others.
I love the fact that there are designated areas where Teens and Tweens can be totally themselves (under supervision)...where parents aren't allowed. My son LOVES the fact the Teens have a club and a section in the beach that is just for them. They feel "grown-up"...mom and dad arent watching over his shoulder telling him to sit up straight, tuck-in or un-tuck his shirt, and watching everything he does...LOL...because I do. And I hope during this time he practices "on his own" everything we have taught him.

I also love the fact that there are areas where adults can be "adults"...have conversations without worrying about little innocent ears. It doesn't have to be something perverse...DH and I love to talk about history...when our son was younger had he heard our conversations of imperialism or mythology, he would have either been bored to death or terrified...lol...I'm sure some adults would be too...LOL

DCL gives the entire family opportunities to enjoy themselves together and separately...having a well balanced vacation.

Then again, for families that do not have too much "family time" during the year and vacationing together is the ONLY time they have as a family...then it would be best not to have the kids go to the "kids only" areas and the adults to the "adults only" areas.

Again, DCL has offers everything to suit all...
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Again, DCL has offers everything to suit all...
THe problem is that they need to enforce it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:22 AM   #71
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THe problem is that they need to enforce it.
Agreed! I get that Disney CM sometimes have trouble "enforcing" the rules, but we are all entitled to what we have been promised and paid for. Thankfully, these parents that disregard the rules are in the minority right now, but if Disney doesn't step up their enforcement, I shudder to think what it will be like in 5 years!
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THe problem is that they need to enforce it.
I understand and I agree...is not about the "children"...
Parents that wish to have family time with their children...should keep it in the "family areas"...

I would LOVE for DS to see his father in Evolution act like a fool dressed like a member of the Village People... BUT after a certain time, children are not allowed and we understand and RESPECT that.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:12 AM   #73
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I totally understand being an adult couple with no kids who loves Disney, but also appreciates a quiet and relaxing vacation.

For our dinners we barely knew there were kids in the room, even at animators pallet. I think that our cruise might not have been very full though. There were not even any kids in the tables surrounding us. There were four tables that our servers were waiting on, and there were only kids at one of the tables.

My husband and I requested a table for two, and that request was granted for us. There were actually three other two tops surrounding us. It was kind of nice, we saw the same folks each night and chatted with them briefly, but then enjoyed dinner on our own.

We saw lots of kids on the cruise, but if we ever wanted to "get away" from the kids it was not an issue.

I personally love watching children play and have fun at Disney, so it is fun for me to see the kids, but it is also fun to get away if need be!
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I have two kids who are 16, and even though that means they can't go to Palo or Remy even though they would enjoy it and even though they could 'pass' as adults (and act like it), I'm glad DCL has the rules and enforces them. If exceptions were made for my kids, then someone else would want an exception for a 13 year old's birthday, or a 15 year old winning a contest and celebrating on board.

On a recent cruise, the only time we broke the rule was walking through the area by the Cove, and I stopped to watch the ship dock at Nassau. My 16 y.o. was with me, and we sat, alone, on the loungers. No one was in the pool, bar area, hot tub so I know her sitting there wasn't disturbing anyone, and they were washing the deck in the family area so we couldn't watch from there.

I do wish they had the cove cafe outside the adult area, or at least had an entrance from the family area. Many kids go to Starbucks all the time, and my 16 year olds do enjoy coffee. I know they can go to the cafe on the lower floor, but it's not the same as the deck, and our cabin was only one floor below the Cove.

But I do like that there is one rule for all, and exceptions are not made.

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I do wish they had the cove cafe outside the adult area, or at least had an entrance from the family area. Nancy
The reason Cove Cafe is "inside" the adult area, is that it is an ADULT venue.
You would be welcome to purchase a beverage for your teen, but they may not stay there with you.
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