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Old 11-20-2012, 03:13 PM   #16
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Sorry, I don't buy it. No one walking the Earth will ever be able to convince me that someone falsely accused of molesting a child would payout to avoid their day in court. I'd bankrupt myself before I did such a thing.
If it truly did happen, then why would the accuser accept the money so easily? If i was molested, i'd tell the person to stick the money where the sun dont shine...because ultimately all i want is the person to be prosecuted and put behind bars. When you accept the settlement, it makes me think the accuser was just after the money to begin with. I could NEVER accept the money. I would if i were a con artist. But otherwise, a big fat NO!
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:15 PM   #17
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If it truly did happen, then why would the accuser accept the money so easily? If i was molested, i'd tell the person to stick the money where the sun dont shine...because ultimately all i want is the person to be prosecuted and put behind bars. When you accept the settlement, it makes me think the accuser was just after the money to begin with. I could NEVER accept the money. I would if i were a con artist. But otherwise, a big fat NO!

That's the part that has never made sense to me. What kind of parents accept money instead of doing everything in their power to send the molester to jail?
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:16 PM   #18
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That's the part that has never made sense to me. What kind of parents accept money instead of doing everything in their power to send the molester to jail?
My point exactly! Youre instantly looked at as a money hungry fool. A true victim would want JUSTICE. Not money.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:16 PM   #19
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Sorry, I don't buy it. No one walking the Earth will ever be able to convince me that someone falsely accused of molesting a child would payout to avoid their day in court. I'd bankrupt myself before I did such a thing.
I can see both sides from that POV, because whether innocent or guilty the longer the issue is in the headlines the harsher the verdict from the court of public opinion.

It is the other angle I don't get... As a parent, if I believed that anyone had harmed my child in such a disgusting and depraved way there's no way in hell I'd accept anything short of locking the pervert up. I certainly wouldn't take a big money payoff and leave the sicko free to prey on the next kid that comes along. So I tend to be immediately suspicious of accusers who shut up for the right price, as well as of those who file civil suit without a criminal complaint.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:20 PM   #20
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That's the part that has never made sense to me. What kind of parents accept money instead of doing everything in their power to send the molester to jail?
Honestly? To avoid having them go through the pain of testifying in court...of being hounded by reporters. Of having to relive the horror. To avoid the death threats from the sycophants who think the accused is innocent.
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No way would anyone who is innocent of molesting children pay to make it go away, not even if it is cheaper than fighting it. No one will ever convince me otherwise.
On the other hand, one could say that a person who has been molested would not take a payoff as an alternative to seeking justice (and preventing the molester from harming others).
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Honestly? To avoid having them go through the pain of testifying in court...of being hounded by reporters. Of having to relive the horror. To avoid the death threats from the sycophants who think the accused is innocent.
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On the other hand, one could say that a person who has been molested would not take a payoff as an alternative to seeking justice (and preventing the molester from harming others).
I could see them taking it to avoid the embarrassment of having to recall the horror of the encounter in the public or a parent doing it so their child doesn't have to go through the humiliation of the same.

The other side, no way. I can't see any scenario where an intelligent person would believe anyone would pay money to make a false accusation of child rape go away.

People can feel free to disagree but I think anyone who believes, for example, the MJ didn't rape children is about as dumb as they come.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:39 PM   #23
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Elmo probably won't be going anywhere, as someone else said he is a cash cow. I wish they would get rid of him though, because I can't stand him and think he totally ruined Sesame Street with his third person baby talk nonsense.
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I loathe Elmo. It is because of him that we do not watch Sesame Street in this house. We get the DVDs and will watch various clips, but none with Elmo. Now Big Bird, Bert and Ernie, and the Count are the bee's knees.

I vote that they send Elmo away with his perverted puppeteer.
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Elmo probably won't be going anywhere, as someone else said he is a cash cow. I wish they would get rid of him though, because I can't stand him and think he totally ruined Sesame Street with his third person baby talk nonsense.
I agree with all of you- I can't stand Elmo. And now with these allegations, it totally turns my stomach that Kevin Clash voiced this character this way- as a child. ICK!
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I could see them taking it to avoid the embarrassment of having to recall the horror of the encounter in the public or a parent doing it so their child doesn't have to go through the humiliation of the same.

The other side, no way. I can't see any scenario where an intelligent person would believe anyone would pay money to make a false accusation of child rape go away.

People can feel free to disagree but I think anyone who believes, for example, the MJ didn't rape children is about as dumb as they come.
And as a parent I can't see any intelligent person take money to keep quiet. I understand not wanting your child to testify and relive the memories. But no way would I take money. It makes you look like a money hungry liar in my eyes.
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BTW we are not talking, in this case, about a parent taking money...we are talking about an ADULT accuser. The accuser is an adult who says he was having sex with Clash back when he was a child. And they have filed a $15 million lawsuit. No money has changed hands there yet. As for the first accuser, it was speculation that he was paid off.
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BTW we are not talking, in this case, about a parent taking money...we are talking about an ADULT accuser. The accuser is an adult who says he was having sex with Clash back when he was a child. And they have filed a $15 million lawsuit. No money has changed hands there yet. As for the first accuser, it was speculation that he was paid off.
That's nuts. Im guessing he was after the money.

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Maybe- but it doesn't make his accusations untrue.

I can see someone taking a settlement rather than go through a trial. The testimony would be embarassing and humiliating- the defense attorney would do their best to make the jury/judge doubt you and make you doubt yourself as well.
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Maybe- but it doesn't make his accusations untrue.

I can see someone taking a settlement rather than go through a trial. The testimony would be embarassing and humiliating- the defense attorney would do their best to make the jury/judge doubt you and make you doubt yourself as well.
yes that's true too.

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Maybe- but it doesn't make his accusations untrue.

I can see someone taking a settlement rather than go through a trial. The testimony would be embarassing and humiliating- the defense attorney would do their best to make the jury/judge doubt you and make you doubt yourself as well.
Then why come forward with the allegations? If you aren't willing to go through with the trial (which I can understand), why go public with allegations? Doing so and then accepting money to "go away" does make one look like they were just out for money. Not necessarily true, but it does give that appearance.
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