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View Poll Results: Should Black Friday be moved up a week earlier?
Yes, great idea to save Thanksgiving! 22 24.18%
No, the holiday shopping season is long enough already. 69 75.82%
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:02 AM   #31
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Nope, it should not be moved. Although, it seems that retailers are working on it.

Just yesterday I was explaining the origin of "Black Friday" to my DD. That back in "the day", the Friday after Thanksgiving was the day that retailers opened up with their Christmas decorations and that was deemed the official start of the Christmas season.

Boy I miss those days!
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:45 AM   #32
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The entire reasoning behind Black Friday being when it is has to do with work schedules. MANY people have the day after Thanksgiving off. Moving it to a random Friday when most people have to work isn't going to work out for retailers.

As someone else said, moving it won't change things for retail workers. Thanksgiving closings are a thing of the past, like being closed on Sunday or Labor Day or just about any other holiday any more. I hate that - once again we have friends venting to us about how their teens have been told "work or be fired" so they'll be leaving Thanksgiving dinner to shuttle their kids to work. But it is the nature of our culture. Time off is bad - it is money lost for both employee and employer and on some subconscious, puritanical level it represents a selfishness or lack of work ethic to put one's private life above job demands. And moving the sales won't change that.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:52 AM   #33
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You need an "other".
Personally black friday is pretty much a big myth IMO especially since the recession started. There is nothing on sale on BF that will not be on sale the remainder of the year. LOL, what you think that big screen tv is actually going to go up in price after black friday?
I don't go out so I've really got no say in this race and I'd definitely would not be putting in for a vacation day just to go shopping. LOL got way better things to use my vacation time for.

Actually what's the use of black friday. Every store has supposedly their "black friday" prices out now, so what's the point now?

Last year Walmart had a supposedly deal on a 60inch vizo tv for some thing like 629.00 my brother did the drill, go out at 4am to be there for the doorbuster get a ticket. cyber monday I got the same tv for my inlaws on line at Sams club (a division of walmart) for 99 bucks cheaper and free shipping.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:54 AM   #34
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Nope, it should not be moved. Although, it seems that retailers are working on it.

Just yesterday I was explaining the origin of "Black Friday" to my DD. That back in "the day", the Friday after Thanksgiving was the day that retailers opened up with their Christmas decorations and that was deemed the official start of the Christmas season.

Boy I miss those days!
Me too!!

I'm looking at the black friday ad at walmart. They have my camera (nikon d3100) for the same price I purchased it for 2 years ago in May for a trip to france I took. the only thing that is different is that they are throwing in a carrying case. No additional lens, the same kit I brought May of 2010.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:59 AM   #35
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I don't bother with the BF deals - most of "great deals" at Wal-Mart or Best Buy are on inferior products anyway, and to get the actual good deals you have to queue up well before the door to the store opens - not worth the cost, in time, to me. So I really, truly do not care what day they decide to do it. Shoot, I went to Kmart one day on Thanksgiving when it was just they hubby anbd I and we were bored. They had some sort of "doorbuster" deals going on, on the holdiay itself, and this was at least 3 years ago. It was not crowded, but it wasn't a ghost town, either.

And my office is not closed on Friday, although I work a compressed schedule and have alternate Fridays off so I am not going in. The federal government (my employer) is not officially closed.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:05 AM   #36
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You need an "other".
Personally black friday is pretty much a big myth IMO especially since the recession started. There is nothing on sale on BF that will not be on sale the remainder of the year. LOL, what you think that big screen tv is actually going to go up in price after black friday?
I don't go out so I've really got no say in this race and I'd definitely would not be putting in for a vacation day just to go shopping. LOL got way better things to use my vacation time for.

Actually what's the use of black friday. Every store has supposedly their "black friday" prices out now, so what's the point now?
It would be nice if they didn't since I'd love to get my dd one for her room. unfortunately I don't have the space to store the $100 32" flatscreen Sears started selling last night for early BF shoppers.

BF shouldn't be moved, if someone doesn't like the tradition they are free to not participate in it. Why do people feel the need to change things for the masses because they don't like something?
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:19 AM   #37
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Nope, it should not be moved. Although, it seems that retailers are working on it.

Just yesterday I was explaining the origin of "Black Friday" to my DD. That back in "the day", the Friday after Thanksgiving was the day that retailers opened up with their Christmas decorations and that was deemed the official start of the Christmas season.

Boy I miss those days!
You might want to re-explain to your DD. Black Friday is what it is because it was the day that retailers made their big profits that brought them from being "in the red" fiscally to "in the black"...hence the name Black Friday. Though there are some sites (like wikipedia) that say the name originated in Philly back in the 60's to describe the really bad traffic that disrupted the city the day after Thanksgiving. But honestly Black Friday has NEVER been about decorations.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:35 AM   #38
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I love the sales on Black Friday, but I don't do WalMart. I go to places where I can get stuff my kids would love at their normal stores. Last year, at H&M I was able to spend less than $90 and still have 2 giant shopping bags full of clothes for them. They had door busters for $4 each. The sales ran until the items ran out or until a certain time that morning. I would have never, ever found those items for those prices with that kind of selection on prices any other day of the year.
I totally get that it is not for everyone, but my sister and I relish in this all night shopping trip. To me, it is now part of our tradition and I wouldn't change any part of it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:51 AM   #39
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Really? Everyone I know has the day after off.
Same here...cept for people that work in IT, Hospitals etc. I know it's not an actual holiday, but I really don't know anyone that has to work. I work in a preschool run by Mr. Scrooge and we even get a paid day off that day!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:31 AM   #40
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Well, Black Friday isn't a holiday so moving it seems like an odd concept. Its just the day retailers decide to give huge savings. How can you force a retailer to a certain date? Really? Now people want to tell retailers when they should have their sales? Such silliness.

Retailers can have their sales whenever they want to. Today,tomorrow, Friday after Thanksgiving, doesn't make any difference to me.

BTW, there are plenty of restaurants including fast food places that are open on Turkey Day. Why don't I hear any of those employees complain to have all restaurants closed down too?
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:59 AM   #41
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Really? Everyone I know has the day after off.
Yes really, unfortunately. My kids are off but that's it. Our businesses are open and always have been so my husband works that day. He does get the day after Christmas off. My sister is a nurse she isn't off either and my other sister works for Geico and she isn't off. Banks, Post Office, and all the stores are open so plenty of people do work that day.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:52 AM   #42
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I keep wondering when some store is going to move their opening time BACK instead of up. Sort of have the 10:00 hour all to themselves. BTW, I have had black Friday off everywhere I've ever worked, and no I do not work for a school.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:16 PM   #44
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Just yesterday I was explaining the origin of "Black Friday" to my DD. That back in "the day", the Friday after Thanksgiving was the day that retailers opened up with their Christmas decorations and that was deemed the official start of the Christmas season.
Technically, the reason it is called "Black Friday" is that the amount sold that day tended to put the average retailer into the "black" for the year, in accounting terms. Everything sold after that day was pure profit. They started offering the special loss leaders to get more people into the stores in the hope that warm bodies who are IN the store will spend money, and preferably lots of it.

There is another reason that the time difference between Black Friday and Christmas has to be carefully judged: credit card billing. Many, many shoppers anticipate their holiday bonuses in their shopping -- if the bill comes before the bonus check, they cannot pay it.

As to myself, I usually do hit Black Friday, but I never go to any of the major big-box stores (except for Home Depot, which is never really crowded because men are their primary shoppers and men don't browse. If they go it is because they want something specific, and they get it and leave.) Also, I generally am not shopping for gifts; I tend to use BF sales to replace worn-out items in our home: it's often new towels or new toaster day. (This year I happen to need a new shredder!) It's kind of cool to roll out early when the kids are still asleep and go get a nice bit of targeted shopping done. I'm normally back home by 8 am and can spend the day relaxing and watching college football.

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They need to keep Black Friday on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving.

This year, I will not be at Wallmart or any store that opens before Midnight. I am protesting for me, not anyone else. I just refuse to shop on Thanksgiving.

However, Macy's is on my list as they have an item I need for a gift at a really good price. They open at midnight and I prefer that over having to sleep for a few hours and then wake up for a 4 am opening.

I don't quite get the protest of the Wallmarters. You work in retail, so you should expect to work holidays. I did it and could not and would not complain. You are expected to work Easter and Good Friday and MLK day and all of the others. I've worked on Christmas day before so cry me a river, people.
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