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View Poll Results: POLL-- Does Starbucks Belong at Walt Disney World?
Yes, I love Starbucks 268 38.34%
No Way Starbucks is overrated 137 19.60%
Depends on the Price 7 1.00%
I don't care 144 20.60%
Disney should offer something "special" not Starbucks 128 18.31%
It's fine, but I will get my coffee elsewhere 15 2.15%
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:58 AM   #76
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I think there is certainly a place for corporate sponsorship if it is done tastefully, and it sounds as though Disney has this in mind. Some things are just done better by outside sources. What would DTD be without the Ghiradelli shop?
Good point! Ghiradelli is very successful. Also, the Ice Cream Parlor on Main Street is Edy's! I don't really know how I feel about the Starbucks (I'm not very good with change...) HOWEVER, I trust Disney and know that whatever they do, it will turn out great!
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:13 AM   #77
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I vote "yes," for no other reason that I find it funny to see how grown adults can be so up in arms over the placement of a quietly-branded commercial entity in the park. Those same purists don't seem to care all that much when they stand at a "Kodak" picture spot. try an cup of free Coca Cola or order one of those craptacular Dole whips....
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:17 AM   #78
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They are NOT replacing MSB!!!!!
Have they backed down from this? I read that here just a few days ago.. Or was that just a rumour?

I like my coffee, and can be a bit snobbish about it.. So I'm thinking of bringing the french press and grinder with me..

Are there any decent places for coffee in the rest of the parks? Best of the worst?

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or order one of those craptacular Dole whips
Here I thought they were an WDW delicacy of Beavertail proportion (yes, I've learned they're gone now).. Not good?

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:38 AM   #79
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First foot in the door..!!! Next year, McDonalds will be taking over the other corner.!!!!!!!
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:39 AM   #80
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Have they backed down from this? I read that here just a few days ago.. Or was that just a rumour?
It's a distinction between "replace" and "refurb".

The bakery is getting refurbed. When the refurb is done, it will sell Starbucks coffee and food items, as well as some of the old Main Street Bakery food items. It will still be called the Main Street Bakery. It just won't be exactly like it was previously.

See: Fiddler, Fifer & Practical Café in DisneyLand. Same thing. It's still named the same, still maintains the theme for Dsney's California Adventure, now it just has a new menu and good coffee.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:03 AM   #81
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Have they backed down from this? I read that here just a few days ago.. Or was that just a rumour?
It was an over reaction that blew up into rumor driven panic.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:12 AM   #82
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Have they backed down from this? I read that here just a few days ago.. Or was that just a rumour?
Disney haven't changed a thing about their plans.

The over-reacting, panic stricken folk just seem to have finally read the press release with a level head and realised what is actually happening.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #83
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Disney haven't changed a thing about their plans.

The over-reacting, panic stricken folk just seem to have finally read the press release with a level head and realised what is actually happening.
It's nice that Disney lets us in on the plans, but when they do so with incomplete information it only stirs up more questions and concerns regarding what changes we can expect.

I don't blame folks for their reactions. Disney did not handle the announcement very well. They have done this before, putting releases like this in the hands of their bloggers without refining it to include the specifics people will be concerned with most about was a mistake. There is one blogger who repeatedly skips details in his posts and I have to wonder if he does it to get more reactions.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:32 AM   #84
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A few thoughts for the "Disney should do their own special thing..." camp:

Disney did do their own special version of a coffee shop. It was called the Fountainview Espresso and Bakery.



It opened in November of 1993 as an annex of the Sunrise Terrace in Epcot (the remainder of which was converted into Pasta Piazza by May of 1994.)

It was a full on "coffee shop" with bakery items and froofy drinks. It served Nescafe products as well as Disney food items. It had/has a show kitchen bakery in the rear and is entirely setup akin to a modern Starbucks but with two-sided ordering. There was even ridiculous "coffee" theme items covering the walls.



It never did well. It failed to attract guests and by 2001 it was on seasonal operation. The adjacent Pasta Piazza also failed to attract guests. Pasta Piazza became Character Connection as a test and due to the success of that test it was closed, torn down, and then finally became Character Spot.

Fountainview lingered on as a seasonal offering, until finally in 2007 they tore out the bakery case and put in ice cream as a menu offering. It has remained open as merely The Fountainview Cafe since then.

Disney's own conceptualization of a modern coffee shop failed to attract guests in one of the busiest theme parks in the world at one of the heaviest foot traffic areas. It simply wasn't good and it was a failure.

Now do any of us really think Starbucks is going to fail at that same location?

If you consider that factually, you can see why they're not going to attempt to make yet another Disney version of a Starbucks but rather just put a proper Starbucks offering in place at Fountainview and the Main Street Bakery.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:36 AM   #85
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It's nice that Disney lets us in on the plans, but when they do so with incomplete information it only stirs up more questions and concerns regarding what changes we can expect.

I don't blame folks for their reactions. Disney did not handle the announcement very well. They have done this before, putting releases like this in the hands of their bloggers without refining it to include the specifics people will be concerned with most about was a mistake. There is one blogger who repeatedly skips details in his posts and I have to wonder if he does it to get more reactions.
Disney handled it just fine. The only people "up in arms" or even the least bit confused/ worried about this are the basement-dwelling shut-ins who are glued to their Disney chat boards all day. The rest of the world understands what is happening or doesn't care. Disney cannot be blamed for issuing a press release that did not pass muster with the lunatic fringe.

Sincerely, a basement dwelling lunatic.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:37 AM   #86
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A few thoughts for the "Disney should do their own special thing..." camp:

Disney did do their own special version of a coffee shop. It was called the Fountainview Espresso and Bakery.



It opened in November of 1993 as an annex of the Sunrise Terrace in Epcot (the remainder of which was converted into Pasta Piazza by May of 1994.)

It was a full on "coffee shop" with bakery items and froofy drinks. It served Nescafe products as well as Disney food items. It had/has a show kitchen bakery in the rear and is entirely setup akin to a modern Starbucks but with two-sided ordering. There was even ridiculous "coffee" theme items covering the walls.



It never did well. It failed to attract guests and by 2001 it was on seasonal operation. The adjacent Pasta Piazza also failed to attract guests. Pasta Piazza became Character Connection as a test and due to the success of that test it was closed, torn down, and then finally became Character Spot.

Fountainview lingered on as a seasonal offering, until finally in 2007 they tore out the bakery case and put in ice cream as a menu offering. It has remained open as merely The Fountainview Cafe since then.

Disney's own conceptualization of a modern coffee shop failed to attract guests in one of the busiest theme parks in the world at one of the heaviest foot traffic areas. It simply wasn't good and it was a failure.

Now do any of us really think Starbucks is going to fail at that same location?

If you consider that factually, you can see why they're not going to attempt to make yet another Disney version of a Starbucks but rather just put a proper Starbucks offering in place at Fountainview and the Main Street Bakery.
I was recently in Character Spot for the first time and I saw (I assume) the backside of the area pictured above. I was wondering what it used to be.

Thanks for the history lesson.
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A quick continuation of the history lesson...

Those who went to Character Spot before it closed recently for renovation might recognize the queue..



And in the right side of that photo is the back wall of the show kitchen of Fountainview - note the plexiglass low wall to let people see into it. Bakery made pastries there in full view of guests.

What guests? These ones..



That's almost the same angle as the first shot. But you may think, where's the column that is prominent in the first photo?



It just didn't last
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A quick continuation of the history lesson...

Those who went to Character Spot before it closed recently for renovation might recognize the queue..



And in the right side of that photo is the back wall of the show kitchen of Fountainview - note the plexiglass low wall to let people see into it. Bakery made pastries there in full view of guests.

What guests? These ones..



That's almost the same angle as the first shot. But you may think, where's the column that is prominent in the first photo?



It just didn't last
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:16 PM   #89
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There is one blogger who repeatedly skips details in his posts and I have to wonder if he does it to get more reactions.
Perhaps, though it also seems like a lot of the blow up over this was due to people seeing negative details that simply weren't there and instead of admitting that they don't know it seems that they chose to fill in the gaps with the most negative things they could think of.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:28 PM   #90
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Fellow Diser's Don't Forget To Vote!

Second there are specials going on at Starbucks BUY ONE GET ONE FREE!

YES FREE!

Free coffee alert! Tomorrow, Starbucks will launch four days of buy-one-get-one action to promote their seasonal holiday beverages. From 2 to 5 PM, you can go in with a friend and score an extra peppermint mocha, gingerbread latte, eggnog latte or carmel brulee latte and get another one for free. The giveaway runs from November 15 to the 18. The real question? How many free coffees can you drink in that sort time span?

http://blog.zagat.com/2012/11/starbu...ne-starts.html

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