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Old 10-05-2012, 12:14 PM   #31
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Yes and those awards were later drastically reduced. IIRC she only ended up with about 10 grand.
No one knows what she actually received, part of the agreement was that it wasn't to be made public.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:16 PM   #32
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Many if you are assuming the dealership truthfully explained the circumstances to the police.
That shouldn't matter. The police should have investigated the claim by the dealer fully before arresting the man. Anyone can accuse anyone of doing anything. Before an arrest is made those accusations should be fully investigated.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:21 PM   #33
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It sounds like the dealership hasn't been honest with the police or the customer. The dealership would have had to press charges to have the guy arrested, and I'm sure whatever documentation they gave to the police to have the customer arrested will be divulged in the lawsuit.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:26 PM   #34
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No one knows what she actually received, part of the agreement was that it wasn't to be made public.
Fair enough.

Regardless my point stands that this guy will probably get far less than what he's asking for.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #35
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The police investigate by talking to victims. In this case, it's possible the "victim" lied. It's not uncommon for more information to come out after an arrest. The police need probable cause to arrest which is usually the victims statement. Happens all the time.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:33 PM   #36
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Most people don't remember that the coffee lady at McDonald's only ended up getting a fraction of what her suit was for, they only remember the 1 million initially in the news.
She asked for a 20k settlement from McDonald's initially. Note that her medical bills plus lost work alone were 18k. So she was offering to settle for just $2k for pain and suffering and no punitive damages. McDonalds should have jumped on this and settled it. But when they stupidly refused, she got an attorney. As of the last court decision before they ultimately settled, they were at 640k. So that's about 32/1. I suppose 32/1 could be considered a fraction. As for what they ultimately settled for, that amount is undisclosed.

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Yes and those awards were later drastically reduced. IIRC she only ended up with about 10 grand.
The last amount that was the result of litigation was 640k. The parties ultimately settled for an undisclosed amount.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:34 PM   #37
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She asked for a 20k settlement from McDonald's initially. Note that her medical bills plus lost work alone were 18k. So she was offering to settle for just $2k for pain and suffering and no punitive damages. McDonalds should have jumped on this and settled it. But when they stupidly refused, she got an attorney. As of the last court decision before they ultimately settled, they were at 640k. So that's about 32/1. I suppose 32/1 could be considered a fraction. As for what they ultimately settled for, that amount is undisclosed.

The last amount that was the result of litigation was 640k. The parties ultimately settled for an undisclosed amount.
I think we already covered all that but thanks.

Edit: It appears my memory of the case was a bit rusty.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:45 PM   #38
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Fair enough.

Regardless my point stands that this guy will probably get far less than what he's asking for.
That is true.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:51 PM   #39
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I'm not sure about the laws in that state, but isn't it that if you are arrested for Grand Theft that is doesn't come off of your record even if you are found not guilty and released? You still were arrested for GT.


I'd sue, too.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:54 PM   #40
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Now if this said that an error gave him the car for 3000 instead of 30,000 ok. No reasonable person would think the car should be that cheap.
Sorry, I disagree. Even IF the guy got the car for $3K, the dealership agreed to the deal.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:59 PM   #41
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It's not that hard to have someone arrested, nowhere near as hard as it should be anyway.

A sworn statement is all it took for my crackhead cousin and her boyfriend to have my father and my sister-in-law arrested. A Sherriff shows up at our business asking to talk to them and basically informs them their has been a warrant sworn out for their arrest
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I work on the civilian side of law enforcement. I have seen instances where the alleged victim (in this case, the car dealership) does not file a police report but goes directly to the county prosecutor's office. In a case like this, it would be the prosecutor's office filing the charges.

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Old 10-05-2012, 01:17 PM   #43
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I'm not sure about the laws in that state, but isn't it that if you are arrested for Grand Theft that is doesn't come off of your record even if you are found not guilty and released? You still were arrested for GT.


I'd sue, too.
I would too. As a Registered Nurse he has to think about his license. If charged with a felony that would be grounds to lose his license.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:35 PM   #44
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That is ridiculous and you know people had to get fired for that! I don't blame the guy for filing a suit though the amount seems unrealistic. If it went really as the story shows, those employees were way out of line.

I thought the story was going to be he got it for $3,000 instead of $33,000 or some typo like that. I don't understand what the police even arrested him for - did they ask the dealership why he was accused of theft before they arrested him?
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That shouldn't matter. The police should have investigated the claim by the dealer fully before arresting the man. Anyone can accuse anyone of doing anything. Before an arrest is made those accusations should be fully investigated.
My guess (and remember, it's only a guess) is that the car had yet to be titled in the buyer's name. A signed contract and proof of payment isn't sufficient; if the title has not been reissued and the car re-registered, the individual/company on the title can still press charges that the car was stolen, and the police then make the arrest.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #45
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Playing devil's advocate... I think the buyer knew the car he bought was more expensive - and he got an awesome deal because the dealership screwed up. Just my opinion - when you do your research for buying a new car, you have an idea of how much the models with different options/packages cost. Almost $6k is a lot of $$$, especially on a car with a beginning price like the Traverse, I would guess he went from a base model to a fully loaded one.

He might have known it was an awesome deal, doesn't mean he had any intent to be dishonest. Several DIS'ers ordered boots from Kohls a week or so ago for less than $10, regular price $125. Doesn't mean we should have any reason to think there was anything wrong with the sale. This guy doesn't run a car dealership, he has no idea if $6,000 savings on a $39,000 car is a clearance sale.
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