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Old 10-02-2012, 02:15 PM   #1
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How previous generations stayed thin....

They SMOKED cigarettes! Like packs a day.

Yes, there was definitely more physical activity back then, and far fewer office jobs, but so many people in previous generations were chain smokers, and for many, many people, that's a huge appetite suppressant.

This is why so many in the entertainment field still smoke -- so they can stay thin.

Nobody in my parents day ran or went to the gym. My dad was a chain smoker, as were many of his friends. My father was rail thin his whole life.

It just bothers me that this point is never factored in.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:23 PM   #2
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I've never smoked other then as a teenager for a year or so. I am now 32 and while I work on my feet all day I don't run, go to the gym, work out ect. I stay thin because I eat very healthy and reasonable portions. I don't eat any meat and very little dairy. I eat tons of fruits and veggies. I've never dieted or tried to be thin, I'm just natuarally that way because of how I eat. Everyone always asked my how I can be so thin (5'5 108lbs). It's easy, don't eat a bunch of crap. Oh and I also eat carbs
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #3
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It might have had some effect I don't think smoking was a major factor in people staying thin. We generally lived a less sedentary lifestyle and ate less processed foods. Even less healthy natural foods metabolize differently than the science experiments many people now mistake for food. The vast majority of my friends are not overweight and I can only think of 2 that smoke but I can think of a lot that run and don't eat the majority of their meals out of a box. What is considered a single portion now is often at least double what it was even when I was a kid and I'm 34.

Anyone can find an anecdote here or there to prove the exception but it isn't a single aspect of lifestyle that is damaging our current population or that helped previous generations, it is the lifestyle as a whole.

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Old 10-02-2012, 02:28 PM   #4
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I think it'd be an interesting study - absolutely true in the case of my Grandmother.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:28 PM   #5
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None of my ancestors smoked and they were all rail thin.

Portions were smaller. Seriously - look at old Coke ads. They claimed a 12 ounce bottle was two servings.

People were more active. Many more lived in cities or small towns and walked; there was no dependence on automobiles the way there is now. My parents were the first people on either side of their family to own a car. (And until I was 7, it was one car, shared by the two of them.)

People did not snack. Three meals a day, with a lot more fruits and vegetables than the average American eats now.

Fast food did not make up a large part of the diet/lifestyle. Maybe a once in a while treat, but people were not eating 700-plus calorie meals a few times a week.

And they all did this without belonging to gyms. We're grown so soft.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:35 PM   #6
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My grandfather truly defied the laws of medical science. At 89 years old, he lived on a diet of cigarettes and coffee. When he did eat, he usually fried himself up a steak and ate thees little chocolates. He lived this way for a decade. He was diagnosed with emphysema back in the 70s, but didn't even have to go on oxygen until his final month. I honestly have no idea how he lived as long as he did.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:44 PM   #7
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My grandfather truly defied the laws of medical science. At 89 years old, he lived on a diet of cigarettes and coffee. When he did eat, he usually fried himself up a steak and ate thees little chocolates. He lived this way for a decade. He was diagnosed with emphysema back in the 70s, but didn't even have to go on oxygen until his final month. I honestly have no idea how he lived as long as he did.
My grandmother lived well into her 80's on a diet of cigarettes and coffee also. Most foods she ate were fried or covered in gravy or butter or something. As kids when we would ask her to quit smoking she would say "I've been smoking since I was 16. If it gives you cancer I've got and they don't have a cure. I'm xx years old and I don't see any point in stopping now." Sometimes we would ask her to quit just to hear her little rant. She was never diagnosed with cancer or anything.
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I got fat when I quit smoking, but I doubt that's the main reason for obesity in America.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:51 PM   #9
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I think there are just as many fat smokers as there are fat non-smokers.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:00 PM   #10
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I got fat when I quit smoking, but I doubt that's the main reason for obesity in America.
While I have no idea about you personally many times the reason for this is that the compulsion to smoke is replaced with the compulsion to eat. Nicotine is also a stimulant and that raises the metabolism. Metabolism is a much more complex thing than just a calorie burner but people mistake the lack of a stimulated metabolism with that of a slow metabolism. Quitting smoking normally corrects the metabolism down to where it should be and while that does burn slightly less calories it isn't enough to cause a great deal of weight gain, especially if you don't increase the caloric intake along with quitting smoking.
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Yeah they were lucky! They got to drink at lunch too!
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Yeah they were lucky! They got to drink at lunch too!
And the Doctors passed out "Mommy's little helper" pills.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:04 PM   #13
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Dr did prescribe smoking to loss weight in days gone by.

The French are heavy smokers.


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It might have had some effect I don't think smoking was a major factor in people staying thin. We generally lived a less sedentary lifestyle and ate less processed foods. Even less healthy natural foods metabolize differently than the science experiments many people now mistake for food. The vast majority of my friends are not overweight and I can only think of 2 that smoke but I can think of a lot that run and don't eat the majority of their meals out of a box. What is considered a single portion now is often at least double what it was even when I was a kid and I'm 34.

Anyone can find an anecdote here or there to prove the exception but it isn't a single aspect of lifestyle that is damaging our current population or that helped previous generations, it is the lifestyle as a whole.
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They SMOKED cigarettes! Like packs a day.

Yes, there was definitely more physical activity back then, and far fewer office jobs, but so many people in previous generations were chain smokers, and for many, many people, that's a huge appetite suppressant.

This is why so many in the entertainment field still smoke -- so they can stay thin.

Nobody in my parents day ran or went to the gym. My dad was a chain smoker, as were many of his friends. My father was rail thin his whole life.

It just bothers me that this point is never factored in.
I agree with the bolded. Also, alot more mothers were stay at home and made food from scratch. It wasn't processed and families didn't have to run to McDonald's in between all their activities. Portions were much smaller as well.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:20 PM   #15
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Dr did prescribe smoking to loss weight in days gone by.

The French are heavy smokers.
And they also prescribed heroin as a cough suppressant. Doctors in the past did a lot of dumb (in retrospect) things.

As for the French, generally they are but so are Italians. I spend two weeks in Italy and anyone being even slightly overweight stood out. But I don't think the smoking had much to do with it. Some other things I noticed in Italy though that I do think had much more to do with it:

Much more food was freshly made and not boxed. I went into a couple of grocery stores (in Rome and in Siena) and in both there was a lot of fresh produce, meat, and breads and very little boxed food.

Many more people walked places. Some cities (like Siena again) didn't even allow cars inside the city walls.

Portions sizes were way smaller. For example we went into a cafe in Colle Val d'Elsa and noticed that the canolli they sold was the size of about a 5 year old's thumb. Here they are closer to the size of a Chipotle burrito.

The prepared fast food was fresh made sandwiches as opposed to McDonald's. Sure, there were some of the chains in the bigger cities but it was much easier to walk into a small cafe and spend 3 Euros on a panini made fresh there as opposed to a patty of pink slime.
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