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Old 09-28-2012, 11:57 AM   #61
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The reason that the term "Oriental" to describe Asian people has fallen out of favor is that it is Western-centric. It describes a whole people by the direction their land happens to lie in relation to the western world.

While I wouldn't call it racist, I can see why some call it offensive.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:06 PM   #62
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I also wonder how she was feeding him since it wasn't a baby it was a toddler. It was an almost 2 yr old. Wonder if she was one of the expose everything and let the kid run around and come nurse Mothers. Even if she was holding him a 2 yr old is a lot harder to keep private. A lot more is going to be exposed. And was she doing it tastefully or letting everything hang out? which no one wants to see while eating.

Truthfully I don't think 2 yr olds need to be nursed in a restaurant. It isn't like they need to get all their nutrition from the breast as a baby would. I'm sure the kid is on table food and could have waited. That is my opinion.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #63
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I also wonder how she was feeding him since it wasn't a baby it was a toddler. It was an almost 2 yr old. Wonder if she was one of the expose everything and let the kid run around and come nurse Mothers. Even if she was holding him a 2 yr old is a lot harder to keep private. A lot more is going to be exposed. And was she doing it tastefully or letting everything hang out? which no one wants to see while eating.

Truthfully I don't think 2 yr olds need to be nursed in a restaurant. It isn't like they need to get all their nutrition from the breast as a baby would. I'm sure the kid is on table food and could have waited. That is my opinion.
This is exactly what I thought when I seen her on Katie.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:19 PM   #64
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PSA - this term is no longer PC (had to correct my mother the other day). Asian is now the correct term (Oriental was a PC term when I was growing up, though).

Carry on...
In all seriousness, thank you. I grew up with it being correct and would have been slammed on the boards if I used it!
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:28 PM   #65
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Probably because as her 2 year old was running around the table in between "sips" mom was sitting there with her ****s on display. As much as I love my oriental chicken salad, seeing a half naked woman sitting at the table next to me would probably get my attention over my meal.

I'm kidding, sort of. I think there is more to the story and we aren't getting it from the innocent mom who just wanted to feed her hungry toddler.
I don't think I saw those details in the story. Why would you make up what happened?
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:29 PM   #66
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I also wonder how she was feeding him since it wasn't a baby it was a toddler. It was an almost 2 yr old. Wonder if she was one of the expose everything and let the kid run around and come nurse Mothers. Even if she was holding him a 2 yr old is a lot harder to keep private. A lot more is going to be exposed. And was she doing it tastefully or letting everything hang out? which no one wants to see while eating.

Truthfully I don't think 2 yr olds need to be nursed in a restaurant. It isn't like they need to get all their nutrition from the breast as a baby would. I'm sure the kid is on table food and could have waited. That is my opinion.
I agree with this.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:46 PM   #67
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I take offense to this statement. I have breasfed 5 babies, currently nursing my 10 month old. I nursed 2 of my children past their second birthdays. I nursed in public when I needed to, I did it discreetly and certainly NOT for attention! I was following the reccomendation of the World Health Organization. This is how my toddlers got nutrition, comfort, hydration on hot days, and bonding time with me. TV.
By two years old my child was well "bonded" with me and drinking out of a cup if they needed to stay hydrated. Comfort was given by me hugging, not whipping out my ****s every time they needed confort. I dont care what the WHO says- by two they are eating full meals from the table and drinking from cups, the only reason to continue breast feeding by that point is for the MOM not the child, moms are unable to let that go.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:56 PM   #68
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I dont care what the WHO says- by two they are eating full meals from the table and drinking from cups, the only reason to continue breast feeding by that point is for the MOM not the child, moms are unable to let that go.
So the WHO, an organization supported by doctors and scientists with years and years of collective research and education, don't know whats best for toddlers when it comes to breastfeeding and nutrition, but you do? What exactly are your credentials?
Care to share the science and research behind your statement "The only reason to continue breast feeding to that point in for the mom and not the child"? I'd love to see your supporting documentation because to a layman like me that sounds an awful lot like an uneducated opinion based on anecdotal evidence.
(all though breastfeeding for the first 2 years does indeed offer health benefits to mom as well, a significant reduction in her risk for breast cancer)
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:10 PM   #69
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So the WHO, an organization supported by doctors and scientists with years and years of collective research and education, don't know whats best for toddlers when it comes to breastfeeding and nutrition, but you do? What exactly are your credentials?
Care to share the science and research behind your statement "The only reason to continue breast feeding to that point in for the mom and not the child"? I'd love to see your supporting documentation because to a layman like me that sounds an awful lot like an uneducated opinion based on anecdotal evidence.
(all though breastfeeding for the first 2 years does indeed offer health benefits to mom as well, a significant reduction in her risk for breast cancer)
Thank you, you took the words right outta my mouth

As far as kids eating a full meal by age 2, maybe some kids but not my son. He was a very picky eater and my doctor was in full agreement that extended breastfeeding was the best thing for him. Didnt have to put him on pediasure or any other supplements, and thanks to my breastmilk he never got sick. for you to say breastfeeding at that age is because the mom cant let go is ridiculous. It was a huge commintment to breastfeed for 2 years and i did it for my children, not myself. i will hopefully reap the health benefits, though, that i am getting by nursing for so many years (8 years total between my 5 kids so far) I fully support extended breastfeeding for as long as mother and child wish.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:12 PM   #70
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By two years old my child was well "bonded" with me and drinking out of a cup if they needed to stay hydrated. Comfort was given by me hugging, not whipping out my ****s every time they needed confort. I dont care what the WHO says- by two they are eating full meals from the table and drinking from cups, the only reason to continue breast feeding by that point is for the MOM not the child, moms are unable to let that go.
Then don't breastfeed your 2 yr old. Why do you (and others) need to have an opinion on what someone else with a different opinion (backed up by lots of medical research) chooses to do?
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:25 PM   #71
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I don't think I saw those details in the story. Why would you make up what happened?
Since I've already addressed your question you can just re-read in case you missed it.

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I guess you missed where I said I was kidding and that I think there is more to her story than what we are getting. We don't know what happened. You are ready to condemn him on her word, I'm not and I wonder if his word would condemn her.
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I gave an example of how she could offend someone (which was the joke). And yes, if I was staring at a pair of breasts while eating I'd find it offensive. Watching a mother nurse her baby, or in this case a toddler, not so much.

For all we know she could have been sitting there on display as her toddler was toddling around, going back and forth for sips when he/she was thirsty. Or he/she could have been laying in their mother's arms suckling away and nobody was the wiser. We have no idea what went on in that restaurant except what she says.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:56 PM   #72
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So the WHO, an organization supported by doctors and scientists with years and years of collective research and education, don't know whats best for toddlers when it comes to breastfeeding and nutrition, but you do? What exactly are your credentials?
Care to share the science and research behind your statement "The only reason to continue breast feeding to that point in for the mom and not the child"? I'd love to see your supporting documentation because to a layman like me that sounds an awful lot like an uneducated opinion based on anecdotal evidence.
(all though breastfeeding for the first 2 years does indeed offer health benefits to mom as well, a significant reduction in her risk for breast cancer)
Well, to be fair the WHO recommends breastfeeding exclusively until 6 months. By 1 year they should be eating family foods 3-4 times daily and breastfeeding is in addition up to 2 years old OR beyond. It also says its fine to give regular milk instead at that age.

http://www.who.int/features/qa/21/en/index.html

As far as the "calming" effect, well, I followed other methods that were just as highly recommended and letting my kids learn how to self soothe. I never just popped a bottle in their mouths to calm them down unless it was bedtime.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:01 PM   #73
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I take offense to this statement. I have breasfed 5 babies, currently nursing my 10 month old. I nursed 2 of my children past their second birthdays. I nursed in public when I needed to, I did it discreetly and certainly NOT for attention! I was following the reccomendation of the World Health Organization. This is how my toddlers got nutrition, comfort, hydration on hot days, and bonding time with me. I don't understand how nursing is a problem for people. Women show a lot more breast wearing bikinis or low cut shirts. In fact most of the time you wouldn't even know my baby was nursing unless you look closely. I am proud to be a breastfeeding mom. I agree that women should cover up in public and be discreet about it, and I believe in this case the woman was. I saw her interview on TV.
But not every mom cares to be discrete. There are some out there who use the fact that they are breastfeeding to show off their "girls" to the world. We have no way of knowing if the mom at Applebees was like you or not.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:06 PM   #74
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Well, to be fair the WHO recommends breastfeeding exclusively until 6 months. By 1 year they should be eating family foods 3-4 times daily and breastfeeding is in addition up to 2 years old OR beyond. It also says its fine to give regular milk instead at that age.

http://www.who.int/features/qa/21/en/index.html

As far as the "calming" effect, well, I followed other methods that were just as highly recommended and letting my kids learn how to self soothe. I never just popped a bottle in their mouths to calm them down unless it was bedtime.
Maybe you linked the wrong page? That one goes to one about how long to exclusively breastfeed.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:58 PM   #75
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I also wonder how she was feeding him since it wasn't a baby it was a toddler. It was an almost 2 yr old. Wonder if she was one of the expose everything and let the kid run around and come nurse Mothers. Even if she was holding him a 2 yr old is a lot harder to keep private. A lot more is going to be exposed. And was she doing it tastefully or letting everything hang out? which no one wants to see while eating.

Truthfully I don't think 2 yr olds need to be nursed in a restaurant. It isn't like they need to get all their nutrition from the breast as a baby would. I'm sure the kid is on table food and could have waited. That is my opinion.
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