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Old 09-26-2012, 04:21 PM   #16
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Companies put a lot of time and money into finding just the right employee. When they've decided on the right one they'd be crazy to say no to a pre-planned trip or two...
Depends entirely upon specifics of the situation. If an employer has 50 applicants for 1 or 2 openings, chances are they can easily afford to move on to the next candidate rather than granting 3 separate vacations within 4 months of hire. I'm not trying to insult OP but looking at this from a managerial standpoint, an employee asking for so much time off shortly after being hired is definitely a warning sign.

And there are industries where accommodating such vacations are completely unworkable. If you're seeking a job in retail, try asking for time off in mid December. If you just hire into an accounting firm, try asking your new boss if it's OK to still take the cruise you have booked for the first week of April.

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...so long as it had been discussed when the terms were negotiated.
That's the thing, though. The mere existence of the post suggests it wasn't discussed adequately from the start.

At this point, I think the only reasonable course of action is to let the employer make the call. ASK if the days off can be accommodated and be prepared to potentially have them all declined.

In hindsight, I would have recommended being completely up-front throughout the interview process. In every interview I've conducted, I always briefly walk through company policies on time off, probationary periods, how time accrues, etc. That would have been the perfect opportunity to bring up any pending obligations.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:50 PM   #17
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I was offered a job on Halloween last year. I accepted, but told HR that I had 2 upcoming week long trips already booked/paid for: Christmas and April of the following year. They informed the hiring manager that it was a condition of hire that I have the time off. The Christmas trip was unpaid, but by the time the April trip came around I had accrued 40 hours of Paid Time Off so I did get paid for that week.

I think alot has to do with how in demand your job is. I am a physical therapist and was hired by a home health care agency desperate for an experienced, licensed PT (which I am both). So I felt like I had some leverage, if you will. I also mentioned the trips as soon as I had an offer from them. Good luck!
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:50 AM   #18
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First let me say how lucky those of you are who have lost their jobs, found new ones (best of luck to you) and can still vacation!!! That's a blessing.

Next, I agree with a PP that perhaps renting out one of your vacations/points or selling the cruise (don't know how or if transferring is possible) may be the best option? This way you won't lose money, or at least not all of it, and you will have a good clean slate with the new job.

Just a suggestion, good luck in your ventures.
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I fixed the problem I added one day to the Oct vacation and have ome night at Vero. For the Dec travel agent trip I added 2 nights and got rid of Jan and still kept 5 points for next year. I am hoping that I can start soon just waiting on back ground to come back. So it will work out as we don't go to Alaska until July.
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I fixed the problem I added one day to the Oct vacation and have ome night at Vero. For the Dec travel agent trip I added 2 nights and got rid of Jan and still kept 5 points for next year. I am hoping that I can start soon just waiting on back ground to come back. So it will work out as we don't go to Alaska until July.
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I fixed the problem I added one day to the Oct vacation and have ome night at Vero. For the Dec travel agent trip I added 2 nights and got rid of Jan and still kept 5 points for next year. I am hoping that I can start soon just waiting on back ground to come back. So it will work out as we don't go to Alaska until July.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:43 PM   #22
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I am just waiting for those screens to come back. I am going to offer to work Thanksgiving the and Christmas eve and Christmas day and new years eve in exchange for being able to go on the Dec trip. I am very excited about both trips and now that my points are not lost I am very happy as this will give enough points for a week next Oct .
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I am just waiting for those screens to come back. I am going to offer to work Thanksgiving the and Christmas eve and Christmas day and new years eve in exchange for being able to go on the Dec trip. I am very excited about both trips and now that my points are not lost I am very happy as this will give enough points for a week next Oct .
So what are you going to do if they aren't willing to work around your requested days off? Have you discussed any of the specifics with them yet?
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:22 PM   #24
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I told the DON of my pre planned trips. She was glad I had told her ahead of time. The 3rd one was too much and being a new employee the best thing is to offer Christmas and Turkey day and to consolidate the 3trips into 2. I am hoping to work all my hours or close to it before the cruise and work 2 days when I return so I will only miss 3 days. My trip in Dec I will work Sunday and maybe plug in thanksgiving and Christmas. So not so bad in th end. I am looking forward to going back to work so just now playing the wait game.
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Did you make them an offer they couldn't refuse?
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:19 PM   #27
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I agree asking can work . I have done that before . But my profession is a bit lax in the rules department .

I think the problem is that you need 3 diffrent periods of time off , in a realy short period of time . That isent going to look good . Can you consolidate then to one trip .

I would eat 45 points before looking bad at a new job . How about ask for the first trip eat the points on the second, and use accumulated time for the third . How many point would you be out then . Less then 45
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:55 PM   #28
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I did tell the nurse manager during my interview that I had the trips planned and was glad that I had informed her. I kept thinking that 3 trips were too much and one had to go. I am still eagerly waiting for the go ahead to work just waiting on drug screen and level 2 back ground to come back. They were done on Tuesday. I am going to give a call on Tuesday. The earliest I think I would be at work is the following week. And would work that week and the next week or most of it and then go to Coco and then work Friday and Saturday when I return. Dec is the travel agent seminar so this is a must. I did add 2 days at the beginning Mon and Tuuesday. So as not to loose points. I have 100 per year and this is nearly 1/2 of my points. I would have to come on Tuesday anyway as the flights are too late on Wednesday. I did tell them at the interview about the trips. My suggestion is that I am going to work all holidays this year or do doubles on the holidays. This frees up Jan and no vacation until mid July. I am hoping they go for it. She told me she had no issue with it since it was without pay but I just feel bad asking for time off ahead of time but it was stuff pre planned and paid for.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:27 PM   #29
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Since it isn't a Monday - Friday, 8-5 work environment, it's probably easier to grant the time off early in employment. I can tell you that in some work environments you would not only have to receive bosses' permission but also overcome some coworker resentment. In many white collar environments, one worker taking time off means others in the department have to work harder to fill the void. People aren't always thrilled to have to pick up slack for the new guy (or gal.) May not seem "right" but it is what it is.

But in a 24/7 medical facility, it isn't nearly as obvious when worker schedules vary.

I'll just leave you with a couple final bits of unsolicited advice. When you finally get that call confirming that you've been hired, make sure you bring up the trips during that conversation. If the person you are speaking with isn't the right one to approve the time off, find out who you do need to speak with and get in touch with him/her immediately. Don't let it drag out any longer.

And if you meet any resistance over the trips, you really need to think carefully about what is most important to you. Offering to work the holidays + double shifts may be enough to gain approval. However, given that you will be such a new employee, they really are under no obligation to approve the time off.

Nobody likes to lose DVC points but I think it's worth trading 100 points--and a bit of rest & recreation--for permanent employment. You called the travel agent seminar "a must" but unless travel agent commissions can cover your food, housing and utilities, your full time job is much more important.

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