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Old 09-27-2012, 06:56 AM   #76
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I am amazed at how all the kids on the DIS and skinny and active to the point of being competitive athletes, yet still can't manage to walk in a theme park.
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On the plus side, seems most posters here are trying to meet the needs of their children, first and foremost. When a child is tired at the parks, some families choose to meet that need by having a stroller to take a break in. Other families meet that need by taking a break in the park or in the hotel. Either way the child is being thought of and cared for, and ultimately how each family does that is up to them. Maybe some middle ground?

There really isn't any middle ground though. A 4 1/2 ft, healthy 4th grader should have no problem walking around WDW for a day. They should be able to communicate to their parents that they are tired and need a rest or they want to go to bed, without acting like a baby or pre-schooler and having a whiny tantrum, and without having to be pushed around in a stroller. And a parent should be listening and taking those breaks or cutting their day short.

I try not to judge, but like I said my ds is 8, he weighs 54lbs and is just a little bit shorter than the OPs child. On top of me not wanting to push him around for my own selfish reasons, I couldn't imagine subjecting him to that, he isn't a baby, he's a 4th grader and is capable of acting like one, if given the chance.
If the OP isn't willing to hear that there are parents out there who think sticking an 8 year old in a stroller is just wrong, then she shouldn't be putting her dilemma out on a public message board where people are free to share their opinions. And disagreeing with her does not equal rude
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:13 AM   #77
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If the OP isn't willing to hear that there are parents out there who think sticking an 8 year old in a stroller is just wrong, then she shouldn't be putting her dilemma out on a public message board where people are free to share their opinions. And disagreeing with her does not equal rude
I agree with everything you've said ~ especially the bolded.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:07 AM   #78
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I haven't read the other posts, but I have a 9 year old with special needs and she's been too big for "regular" strollers for a while. She's fine without anything for day to day activities, but she has endurance issues, so we're looking into getting an adaptive stroller for her. Even my typical 4 year old, who is big for his age is getting big for a regular stroller. My plan for our 4 kids, ages 9, 7, 4 and 2 is to get an adaptive stroller for the 9 year old and probably take a double (I'm still deciding on the specifics) for the 2 year old and letting the 7 year old and 4 year old take turns if they need to ride.

Another option might be to get a single stroller that can hold a bigger kid (easier to find than a double) and get something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Lascal-5-26300.../dp/B000R85BKY
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:27 AM   #79
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If the OP isn't willing to hear that there are parents out there who think sticking an 8 year old in a stroller is just wrong, then she shouldn't be putting her dilemma out on a public message board where people are free to share their opinions. And disagreeing with her does not equal rude
I'm not sure, but it might be because that isn’t what she asked to begin with. There are plenty of threads where an OP would ask, “My child is (whatever age over 4) do we need a stroller?”

This wasn't the case here. The OP just asked for a comparison between strollers she was considering using.

Looking at her post count, she probably just wasn't prepared for how threads like this tend to go.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:39 AM   #80
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I think when your child gets so big that you have to look at adaptive strollers for special needs children it out to tell you something........
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:42 AM   #81
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Just make her chug a Red Bull. It will be fine.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:00 AM   #82
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I think when your child gets so big that you have to look at adaptive strollers for special needs children it out to tell you something........
It's weird. I'm fairly new to the dis board, and thought it was around to help people plan their Disney trips and give info. More than often though, I'm seeing people post things that seem like they are intentionally just trying to make others feel bad. I get that everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but there is a kind way to state opinions.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:16 AM   #83
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It's weird. I'm fairly new to the dis board, and thought it was around to help people plan their Disney trips and give info. More than often though, I'm seeing people post things that seem like they are intentionally just trying to make others feel bad. I get that everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but there is a kind way to state opinions.
At the same time some people start threads that intentionally wreak havoc. You have to know if you post something about carting your 8 year old in a stroller you're going to have some helpful answers along with some annoyed opinions. It's a public forum. Of course the more rediculous the question gets the more annoyed answers you're going to get. For example if the thread title was "Stroller for a 13 year old...which one?" you would attract more of the flamers than helpers. It's the chances you take when posting.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:17 AM   #84
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I'm not sure, but it might be because that isn’t what she asked to begin with. There are plenty of threads where an OP would ask, “My child is (whatever age over 4) do we need a stroller?”

This wasn't the case here. The OP just asked for a comparison between strollers she was considering using.

Looking at her post count, she probably just wasn't prepared for how threads like this tend to go.
Well, in that case, neither of the strollers she is looking at are equipped to handle children of that weight and height. The combined weight of her children is too heavy. The 52" height of her one son is too tall.

Other than adaptive strollers for children with special needs there doesn't seem to be any strollers on the market that are made to carry average sized 4th graders.

Now, because there aren't strollers available for that size child, the OP can either try to rent a special needs stroller, or can prepare her child to walk.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:21 AM   #85
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At the same time some people start threads that intentionally wreak havoc. You have to know if you post something about carting your 8 year old in a stroller you're going to have some helpful answers along with some annoyed opinions. It's a public forum. Of course the more rediculous the question gets the more annoyed answers you're going to get. For example if the thread title was "Stroller for a 13 year old...which one?" you would attract more of the flamers than helpers. It's the chances you take when posting.
Good point.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:25 AM   #86
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I'm not sure, but it might be because that isn’t what she asked to begin with. There are plenty of threads where an OP would ask, “My child is (whatever age over 4) do we need a stroller?”

This wasn't the case here. The OP just asked for a comparison between strollers she was considering using.

Looking at her post count, she probably just wasn't prepared for how threads like this tend to go.
I think many, who have older kids, and have had 8 year olds before, are saying that there is no need for an 8 year old to be pushed in a stroller! These are not little kids - these are kids who do homework, ride bikes, rollerblade, walk to school, write essays, play many sports, etc. The thought of a person of this age in a vehicle designed for babies is like asking what size adult diapers should an 8 year old wear to WDW, in case he's having so much fun, and doesn't want to stop at the restroom.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:32 AM   #87
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I'd also vote for walking - because it is so liberating being without a stoller!

Someone upthread mentioned how much quicker it is... and it really is. No need to park it, hunt for it after it has been moved, find it in a crowd. And you really can move faster through the crowds without it. Usually, it is my youngest (8yo now, but hasn't been in a stroller at Disney for 3-4 years) who is moving the fastest.

I actually find the ones who tire quickest are the 10-14 yo's who have gone through the height growth spurt, but the muscle tone hasn't yet caught up.

As for the comments, I don't make them, because I understand that there may be un-obvious reasons for a stroller, but my kids (especially my youngest) will turn to me and say, "mom, that kid is waaaaay too old for a stroller". Unfortunately, they are still working on the 'quiet' voice and I'm usually in "we'll talk about it later in private" mode.

I'm also of the "let's not kill ourselves on the Bataan Death March" variety. So if they are tired, I usually am, also. I would rather leave happy and in a good mood, maybe missing something, then "do it all" and kill myself in the process. I believe we have rest of our lives to come back and do things again - and it can be made a higher priority next time.

Speaking of priorities... one of the things I've done is to ask the kids for their Top 5 rides or attractions and I plan so that we hit each kids' Top 5. I don't promise we'll do it all (other than priorities) and we may miss things, but we get to the priorities that we've agreed upon prior to coming. Helps with the "but we didn't see.... " crowd.



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Given your height and weight parameters I definatly think you are going to physically struggle with a regular double stroller. Also, if you are renting I'm not sure what would happen if the stroller or you were damaged because you pushed it to it's weight limit or over. Remember if you are using for storage as well that will add weight.

Given the size of the child, I do think for the comfort and safety of the child and yourself you need to have a stroller that fits them. That means you are probably looking at a special needs stroller if you really feel you need one.

As a mother with a child who has a medical condition, I have to admit I am somewhat perplexed that parents of a child at that age and size without a special need that requires a stroller would consider the need to rent or buy one. Breaks are fairly easy to take if needed by sitting down on a bench, having a snack at a QS, etc.
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It's weird. I'm fairly new to the dis board, and thought it was around to help people plan their Disney trips and give info. More than often though, I'm seeing people post things that seem like they are intentionally just trying to make others feel bad. I get that everybody is entitled to their own opinions, but there is a kind way to state opinions.
Unfortunately with the good comes the negative. Or for some people their idea of being helpful is to criticize someone elses parenting decisions because their way is apparently the only "correct" way I have been on the dis for over 6 years on and off and see this time and time again. It is a shame that newer members who are not familiar with how threads like these tend to go and come here asking an honest question, find themselves the target of such criticism..it is a bit harsh imho.

I hope the OP, if they have not run from the dis because of the negative responses, does what they feel best for their family and to make their trip to WDW as enjoyable as possible.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:27 AM   #90
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I was only going on what you described originally. You said she goes until she is over-tired and cranky. I would think that if anyone, of any age is physically and mentally exhausted, then it is time to call it a day. Or I can say it would be in my family. I also think that there are many ways to get a few minutes of rest. Sit on a bench, have a snack, see a show, ride the train, or the people mover. ETC.

Again, like I said earlier, I can go on my kids, and my experience with my kids. None of them are perfect physical specimens, none of them are any type of competitive athlete, yet they still didn't need a stroller past the age of 4.

The only time my kids ever complained was when they were told they had to leave the park, and then mostly they complained because they had to leave the park.

One thing I know, I am not pushing the kids around in a stroller so that they are well rested and I'm exhausted and then they want to keep me up half the night. At the end of the day we are ALL tired, and we ALL sleep well.
I apologize for not being more clear. When I stated that my DD tends to go until she's overstimulated, I just meant that's when we decide to take a break. She doesn't need to leave the park if she only needs a 15 minute break. And yes, a bench I guess could work, but in the end, we decided on renting a stroller. I guess we'll see how it goes next week since we're heading to Disney Monday
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