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Old 09-24-2012, 11:21 PM   #61
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Anyone else want to defend the refs?
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:22 PM   #62
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You get what you pay for.

NFL revenues are 9 billion a year and growing and they are trying to cut what they pay the refs ( when you include benefit cuts )

The owners are quibbling over 60K per team per year.

The 1st 3 weeks are proving that not just anyone can step in and do the job.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:27 PM   #63
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I'm done. I'm not watching, not wearing gear, not visiting my team's message board, etc, until the real refs are back.

I know what I said earlier, and it was a bit of sour grapes.

The refs have stunk all three weeks, but this is the last straw.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:28 PM   #64
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So where are these refs from? I would think even college refs at the Division I level would have a pretty good understanding of the pro system, despite the differences. Are these guys just totally clueless?

They aren't top College refs because Div 1 refs they are very well paid and none of them would want to jeopardize their contracts for college games or loose that gig for a 1 year fill in thing.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:30 PM   #65
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So where are these refs from? I would think even college refs at the Division I level would have a pretty good understanding of the pro system, despite the differences. Are these guys just totally clueless?
I know the woman is from MEAC. So a few are college. I could have sworn I heard that they pulled someone from the LFL, which is just stupid.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:35 PM   #66
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I've been trying not to watch. But I got intrigued while I was flipping through channels and watched about 5 minutes of this one. I'll resume my not watching until the regular refs come back.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:49 PM   #67
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:01 AM   #68
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So where are these refs from? I would think even college refs at the Division I level would have a pretty good understanding of the pro system, despite the differences. Are these guys just totally clueless?
That's just it. They would, but they have their jobs and, quite understandably, do not want to jeopardize them by stepping up for an unknown period of time, as a PP pointed out. So if you think of the normal officials as equivalent to starting players, second string would be the refs at the higher college level (OSU, Michigan, Penn State, etc.), third string at non-Big 10/12 schools... These replacement refs are fourth stringers at best. If any of our preferred teams were only playing fourth string players, we wouldn't be shocked that they were constantly blowing it, either. Annoyed, dismayed, appalled, and POed for sure, but not necessarily surprised. To be clear, I am not defending these calls whatsoever, but the fact is, they're totally unqualified to be calling these games, and we can only be so surprised when they prove that they have no business doing this. That being said, tonight's game may have been the line. And by 'might', I think most people would say 'was' if it hadn't been crossed for them yet already.

Hey, Goodell, if all the starters were striking, you'd pay up to get them back on the field. This isn't any different.
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The people on ESPN are completely incensed. Every single one of them.

There is no joy in Wisconsin, even though Russ Wilson is an ex-Badger.
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That's just it. They would, but they have their jobs and, quite understandably, do not want to jeopardize them by stepping up for an unknown period of time, as a PP pointed out. So if you think of the normal officials as equivalent to starting players, second string would be the refs at the higher college level (OSU, Michigan, Penn State, etc.), third string at non-Big 10/12 schools... These replacement refs are fourth stringers at best. If any of our preferred teams were only playing fourth string players, we wouldn't be shocked that they were constantly blowing it, either. Annoyed, dismayed, appalled, and POed for sure, but not necessarily surprised. To be clear, I am not defending these calls whatsoever, but the fact is, they're totally unqualified to be calling these games, and we can only be so surprised when they prove that they have no business doing this. That being said, tonight's game may have been the line. And by 'might', I think most people would say 'was' if it hadn't been crossed for them yet already.

Hey, Goodell, if all the starters were striking, you'd pay up to get them back on the field. This isn't any different.
Read an article this morning that most of refs are from arena football and a few from the lowest college ranks.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:23 AM   #71
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When the calls were so blatantly in favor of the Sea Hawks, makes you wonder if the refs were paid bonuses to throw the game.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:27 AM   #72
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Read an article this morning that most of refs are from arena football and a few from the lowest college ranks.
Telling. Thanks for the 411
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:29 AM   #73
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When the calls were so blatantly in favor of the Sea Hawks, makes you wonder if the refs were paid bonuses to throw the game.
Plenty of bad calls both ways. Packers got a TD because of a blown call.

3 millions dollars is what the owners are trying to save. About the cost of ONE player making the veteran minimum.
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