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Old 09-24-2012, 10:05 AM   #16
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Do you think that's only related to cruising? In January we stayed for a week at WDW in a resort and I came down with the same thing. Very intence flu symptoms. In fact, I didn't make it out of Epcot in time. But it was gone within 24 hours and I was able to carry on with the vacation. At the time, we only lived an hour away so it couldn't have been the water or anything.
Anyplace where you are around hundreds of other people your chances of catching a stomach virus are great. Sometimes one person,sometimes nobody, sometimes everyone in your group. So NO not just on cruise ships.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:49 AM   #17
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That's my thought as well. I imagine you have to be a bit more careful on a cruise but obviously those things can happen anytime, anywhere. It was wierd for me because no one else had any problems in my party. I'll just be carrying hand sanitizer in my bag on the ship. The only thing I really worry about it what my son may be picking up in the kid's club.
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Me, too!! I did ingest some water while snorkeling. The only thing I ate different than family was the shrimp cocktail...but on the 9/8 cruise I became very ill...chills, body aches, nausea, intense intestinal cramping...lasted 24 hours but stayed very weak...it has been 10 days now and my gut still feels tender...it was really horrible.
Shrimp is another common cause of food poisoning...
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That's my thought as well. I imagine you have to be a bit more careful on a cruise but obviously those things can happen anytime, anywhere. It was wierd for me because no one else had any problems in my party. I'll just be carrying hand sanitizer in my bag on the ship. The only thing I really worry about it what my son may be picking up in the kid's club.
They are pretty good in the Oceaneer's Club. They actually do hand washing lectures and demos, and when a kid comes out of the bathroom the CM will ask them if they washed and then plunk some sanitizer in their hands.
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They are pretty good in the Oceaneer's Club. They actually do hand washing lectures and demos, and when a kid comes out of the bathroom the CM will ask them if they washed and then plunk some sanitizer in their hands.
Thats good to know!
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Hand sanitizer isn't effective in preventing norovirus, plain ole' soap and water is best.

And norovirus is a stomach virus, and stomach viruses can pretty much occur anywhere. So obviously anywhere with a group of people in close quarters is going to be more susceptible to it. Cruises, nursing homes, college dorms, etc.

I never use public bathrooms on cruise ships unless it's an absolute emergency, that's one of the worst places to pick it up.
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Hand sanitizer isn't effective in preventing norovirus, plain ole' soap and water is best.

And norovirus is a stomach virus, and stomach viruses can pretty much occur anywhere. So obviously anywhere with a group of people in close quarters is going to be more susceptible to it. Cruises, nursing homes, college dorms, etc.

I never use public bathrooms on cruise ships unless it's an absolute emergency, that's one of the worst places to pick it up.
I was just going to say this! Hand washing is key. Even the hand wipes they give you aren't nearly enough. Wash your hands before every meal and try not to touch to many things on the way to the restaurants. I'm thinking things like elevator buttons and hand rails in the stairs.
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The red Wet Wipes are supposed to be the only wipes to kill noro. I seriously plan on walking around the ship with a canister full wiping everything...elevator buttons, staircase, anything I see people touching!
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Alcohol based hand sanitizers are not, however, wipes are more effective because they help to "remove" viruses from than hands.

Hand washing, especially scrubbing between the fingers and the nails is preferred.
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Norovirus is circulating everywhere right now...sounds like the probable culprit...vomiting and/or diarrhea, fever/chills...nasty for 24-48 hours and then you feel really weak for a few days after, until you get your fluids back up. Norovirus is especially nasty for cruise ships...while you can get it from food made by someone who is or who has recently been sick with it, it can also come from environmental exposure...it lives on handrails, light switches, carpets, etc., that haven't been properly cleaned and disinfected. You can also get it by being in the vicinity of someone who is throwing up (or even in a room where someone has thrown up in the last little while, if not properly cleaned). That's why entire classrooms of kids can become sick if one throws up during class...the droplets get spread through the air. It's one nasty bug! Cruise ships generally have cleaning protocols for this virus since they don't want their reputation "soiled" (sorry, had to) by a huge outbreak of it. Keep your hands washed, try not to touch your eyes, nose or mouth, and keep your fingers crossed!
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Shrimp is another common cause of food poisoning...
I had food poisoning from shrimp cocktail once, and we were on land. Boy, let me tell you, I was one sick puppy. I ended up in the hospital for three days, dehydrated. And yeah, I steer clear of shrimp now, because, well.... it was N A S T Y.
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I wonder if sometimes people mistake a sensitive stomach for norovirus.

We cruised in June and DH and I had been on an aggressive diet beforehand. Our stomachs were not ready for the rich food that we had on board. Let's not talk about the Bearnaise sauce at the EG for dinner.....

Not once did we ever assume it was "norovirus" or food poisoning. We just figured it was our temperamental tummies!
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It seems like from what I have read, if there is an outbreak on one of the ships people notice because the CM's are doing a LOT of extra cleaning and disinfecting. Sometimes they even have CM's at the drink station so it is not self serve.
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I had food poisoning from shrimp cocktail once, and we were on land. Boy, let me tell you, I was one sick puppy. I ended up in the hospital for three days, dehydrated. And yeah, I steer clear of shrimp now, because, well.... it was N A S T Y.
DH and i got it from tuna salad....
we had it for lunch - it was the only thing both of us ate and no one else did..
by 6 PM DH was sick (i won't give the details - but you can figure it out)..
i only became equally violently ill at 2 AM....
we couldn't move from our beds...finally the next day we were so sick in the extreme, DH called a visiting doctor...
the moment he walked through the door of our house he said "food poisoning"...
he checked us out and said, "food poisoning"
and then told us we'd be sick another 3 days...we nearly fainted when he said it....i was sooooooooooo sick i couldn't imagine being sick for another 3 days..
he said if the symptoms didn't improve we'd have to go to the emergency room to be rehydrated...we didn't go to the hospital, but we were very very sick for the next few days...

it took me about a year to eat tuna fish again, and i still won't eat it out....
only if i make it myself at home..
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It seems like from what I have read, if there is an outbreak on one of the ships people notice because the CM's are doing a LOT of extra cleaning and disinfecting. Sometimes they even have CM's at the drink station so it is not self serve.
I read a book from a past crew member recently (not Disney). They had yellow and red levels. At yellow they started taking a lot mroe precautions like you noticed. At red, everything was pretty much shut down.

At a certain point (when more than 2% of the ship), they have to report the outbreaks to the CDC.

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/GIlist.htm


Now from what I have read, Noro virus is VERY common on ships and no matter how much they clean, stuff happens. But I don't see Disney on that list since 2002. Not sure if that is because they clean more or just pure luck.
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