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Old 09-21-2012, 09:59 PM   #31
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I will preface this by saying that I have taken my kids out of school for WDW, and I wouldn't even consider trying to get "credit" for them since the trip wasn't planned as an educational trip, it was planned as a family vacation. Sure the trip would be a learning experience, but one can say that about anything. Unless the trip is planned specifically for education then its just an excuse so that parents aren't held responsible for their choice for their child to miss required school days in order to take a vacation. We have to do what is right for our families, and sometimes that means we vacation when school is in session, but we should own up to it.
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You think?

The principal probably is allowing this as an excused absence just because he was impressed by your audacity! (This is not a criticism).


We went back and forth about whether or not to pull our kids out of school for our first family WDW vacation last year and we decided against it. We've even considered it for the 2013 trip we are planning, but we are still sitting firmly on the fence about it. I have co-workers and friends that have pulled their kids out of school for WDW trips, and my kids have several classmates that have missed multiple days of school for WDW, so I know that it works out for many families; but for various reasons, we just don't feel comfortable with our kids missing more than 1-2 consecutive days of school unless they are sick or there is a family emergency. I am all for family bonding time, educational experiences outside of the classroom, etc; but even with our very busy life, we have found time and ways to do those things without pulling our kids out of school. Like many folks, I would prefer to go to WDW when the crowds are the lowest and the weather is pleasant; but I can say that based on our experience and what I've read here on the Disboards that with some research and a good plan, a fun and accomplished trip to Disney can be had even when it's crowded and the weather isn't great. I guess it's all in perspective and expectations. Everyone has to do what's best for their families. Have a magical trip OP
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:44 PM   #32
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We used a letter similar to the one that the OP posted. My son is 15 and in 10th grade. We were in a very tough spot. Our school district had a yearly Fall break. Well, because our wonderful state legislature making a changing to the start date of school, they did away with it.

So, here we were with our trip fully paid for and the fall break being cancelled. My TA sent me a letter to send to the school. I'm not sure if it was because of the cancelled fall break or the letter, but they excused the entire 7 days. He will have to make up the work, but he only has 4 classes this semester so it won't be too hard to make up. We plan on giving him plenty of time each day to work on it.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:19 AM   #33
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I think it's fine to take a child out of school for vacation to Disney or anywhere but it shouldn't be excused as educational. Heck, I could take my child to the track & make it an educational experience if I wanted. That doesn't mean she should be excused from school for it. People should try to make Disney any more than it is, a wonderful vacation destination.
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:32 AM   #34
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I think you guys are getting excused and unexcused absences confused? An excused absence is when a parent calls into the school and let's them know their child won't be in attendance that day. An unexcused absence is when there is no call made to the school and they don't have a reason for the child not being there. Too many unexcused and yes they can get you for truancy as such, but as long as they have a reason for not attending you won't fall into that category. I can see schools getting on parents for taking their kids out for vacation, but its only because the school gets money for your child being there. The more absences the less money the school will get. That really is the only reason they do that. They can't call truancy on you for a family vacation!
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:47 AM   #35
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I think you guys are getting excused and unexcused absences confused? An excused absence is when a parent calls into the school and let's them know their child won't be in attendance that day. An unexcused absence is when there is no call made to the school and they don't have a reason for the child not being there. Too many unexcused and yes they can get you for truancy as such, but as long as they have a reason for not attending you won't fall into that category. I can see schools getting on parents for taking their kids out for vacation, but its only because the school gets money for your child being there. The more absences the less money the school will get. That really is the only reason they do that. They can't call truancy on you for a family vacation!
Actually, my daughter's school is very specific about what is considered excused: (quoted from our parent handbook)

The following circumstances qualify as “excused” absences:
•Illness: more than two days must be confirmed by a signed doctor’s note
•Up to three (3) days per school year for observance of religious holidays
•Up to five (5) days due to death of a family member
•Dismissal due to school-sponsored activities approved by the principal
•Absences because of judicial obligations

The law states that “the Superintendent, or teachers, in so far as authorized by him or the school committee, may excuse cases of necessary absence for other causes not exceeding seven sessions or fourteen half-day sessions in any period of six months.”

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I asked our vice principal if we would get "the letter" - we're not worried. If we do get the letter from the state, we (and the school) still know she's doing okay. But generally she is only sick one day at a time, and even at that it's rare (knock on wood).

They certainly can call truancy on us if we went for too long. I respect that rule, because it becomes a question of where do you draw the line.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:30 PM   #36
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I would be to embarressed to ever send in a letter like that about wdw..lol come on these teachers know what wdw is, just tell them your going on a family vacation and be done with it.I just let the teacher know a few months ahead of time and make sure they dont miss school alot and they excuse whatever days we need.we dont abuse it though.We also do not try to pull the " she is going to learn" on them....they are not stupid.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:53 PM   #37
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I think you guys are getting excused and unexcused absences confused? An excused absence is when a parent calls into the school and let's them know their child won't be in attendance that day. An unexcused absence is when there is no call made to the school and they don't have a reason for the child not being there. Too many unexcused and yes they can get you for truancy as such, but as long as they have a reason for not attending you won't fall into that category. I can see schools getting on parents for taking their kids out for vacation, but its only because the school gets money for your child being there. The more absences the less money the school will get. That really is the only reason they do that. They can't call truancy on you for a family vacation!
That isn't true in our district. I believe in order for an illness to be an excused absence I have to send in a doctor's note. Just a phone call from me will result in the absence being unexcused. I haven't ever bothered to find out what is required though since my daughter doesn't miss many day. If she was seriously ill and out more than a few days I'd find out but for under 10 absences a year it isn't worth it IMO.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:01 PM   #38
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I think you guys are getting excused and unexcused absences confused? An excused absence is when a parent calls into the school and let's them know their child won't be in attendance that day. An unexcused absence is when there is no call made to the school and they don't have a reason for the child not being there. Too many unexcused and yes they can get you for truancy as such, but as long as they have a reason for not attending you won't fall into that category. I can see schools getting on parents for taking their kids out for vacation, but its only because the school gets money for your child being there. The more absences the less money the school will get. That really is the only reason they do that. They can't call truancy on you for a family vacation!
Um no, that isn't an excused absence. That is nothing more than a parent calling the school and informing them their kid won't be there. The "excused" or "unexcused" part comes from why they won't be there. Some reasons are acceptable, i.e. excused (illness, death in family, doc appts) some are not, i.e. unexcused (vacations, shopping with mom day, just not wanting to go). Our kids are allowed 10 unexcused absenses a year before there are truancy issues. So, if I want to take my kid to Chuck E Cheese for the day, I can call them and tell them that, but its not going to be an excused absence.
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I think you guys are getting excused and unexcused absences confused? An excused absence is when a parent calls into the school and let's them know their child won't be in attendance that day. An unexcused absence is when there is no call made to the school and they don't have a reason for the child not being there. Too many unexcused and yes they can get you for truancy as such, but as long as they have a reason for not attending you won't fall into that category. I can see schools getting on parents for taking their kids out for vacation, but its only because the school gets money for your child being there. The more absences the less money the school will get. That really is the only reason they do that. They can't call truancy on you for a family vacation!
That may be true of your local school district, but it is not true of ours, or any I went to as a kid. Just because the school is informed about an absence, that doesn't even come close to meaning it's excused. I had to go to a truancy hearing last year because my son went over the 10 unexcused absences when we had a death in the family out of state and then my son got very sick later in the year and missed a bunch of days. Our district only allows 10 excused absences, then all beyond that are unexcused. After 10 unexcused you get to have a hearing. A vacation could very well get you a truancy letter.

Oh, and the reason schools do that is because they are legally required to provide a certain number of hours of education, that number usually divides out to around 180 school days. I don't know if they lose some funding from the government for not meeting that number with their students or not, I would think they probably do.
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We can look online and I've seen that the absences for my son are all excused. Even his "sick" days. Even if you are going to Disney I think as long as you are upfront with them you won't have a problem. I've never taken my son out of school for a vacation before and only did so now because of them cancelling the fall break.

Any school that my son went to all we had to do was call, or send a note and the absence was excused. I know that there is such a thing as excessive, but family time is important and they are only young for a short time.....

I guess it's just to each his own....
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Catnip rules that is what I was trying to say. For our district that's all you need. Now if I were to take my kid of vacation and not let the school know, then they would be unexcused, but as long ad they know there is no truancy penalties involved. I live in Illinois.
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Well I am sure the letter will end up on the wall as a little laugh for the staff and your daughter will be known as the girl whose mother wrote the letter.

Not to be mean but after being in the office enough times, they need the laugh. I believe it was overboard but I am not you. Enjoy your trip.
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Well I am sure the letter will end up on the wall as a little laugh for the staff and your daughter will be known as the girl whose mother wrote the letter.

Not to be mean but after being in the office enough times, they need the laugh. I believe it was overboard but I am not you. Enjoy your trip.
Wow... That's easy for you to judge her like that. How do you know what they are going to do with the letter? I emailed a similar letter to my son's principal and he thanked me for my honesty he wasn't being snide or insincere. I could have just told him he wasn't going to be in school that week and left it at that.

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We used a letter similar to the one that the OP posted. My son is 15 and in 10th grade. We were in a very tough spot. Our school district had a yearly Fall break. Well, because our wonderful state legislature making a changing to the start date of school, they did away with it.

So, here we were with our trip fully paid for and the fall break being cancelled. My TA sent me a letter to send to the school. I'm not sure if it was because of the cancelled fall break or the letter, but they excused the entire 7 days. He will have to make up the work, but he only has 4 classes this semester so it won't be too hard to make up. We plan on giving him plenty of time each day to work on it.
Hey, Catnip...live in Alabama, do you??
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Well I am sure the letter will end up on the wall as a little laugh for the staff and your daughter will be known as the girl whose mother wrote the letter.

Not to be mean but after being in the office enough times, they need the laugh. I believe it was overboard but I am not you. Enjoy your trip.
Actually, when I sent a similar letter to my child's teacher, she called me to ask if she could use it when she pulled her own children out for their Disney trip during the school year!

And, since when is Disney not educational? My relative who teaches middle school in Florida has taken many field trips with her students to Disney over the years.

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