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Old 09-18-2012, 10:21 AM   #1
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New Al Lutz Today FYI

Hi All:

Since DLR and especially DCA has been in building mode for the last 4-5 years, I have summarized Al Lutz articles and provided links which generally covered a lot of rumors about how the construction was progressing and what was changing.

Now that we are past that hump I just don't feel like keeping it up. His articles and the fact that I posted links has provided lots of discussion and in some cases disagreement, but regardless I still think his rumors are fun to consider. I have never cared for his snide criticisms and even cynicism, but I have generally liked hearing his rumors.

So, with that, just wanted you to know I am laying down the torch of summarizing Al and unless I see a reason to pick up again in the future, I plan to let it go.

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Old 09-18-2012, 10:44 AM   #2
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Thanks for doing it in the past! But its a lot of work, so I understand not wanting to continue!

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Old 09-18-2012, 10:53 AM   #3
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I've appreciated your summaries in the past but totally understand dropping it. Personally, I think he is hilarious but I have a sarcastic sense of humor.
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Thank you, Trey, for your continued efforts over the years. I will be sad to not see your Lutz summaries anymore, and yet I understand why you want to stop doing them. They have, indeed, inspired a lot of interesting discussions and speculation of 'what could be.' Plus, quite frankly, often times it just saved me the trouble of having to go over to MiceAge and look up his articles because the link and the bullet points were right here!

Even if someone else eventually picks up the Lutz torch and carries it, I'm not sure that anyone could do quite as effective of a job of reading, pulling the highlights, summarizing, writing up the disclaimers about Al not being an employee of Disney, etc.
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Thank you, Trey, for your continued efforts over the years. I will be sad to not see your Lutz summaries anymore, and yet I understand why you want to stop doing them. They have, indeed, inspired a lot of interesting discussions and speculation of 'what could be.' Plus, quite frankly, often times it just saved me the trouble of having to go over to MiceAge and look up his articles because the link and the bullet points were right here!

Even if someone else eventually picks up the Lutz torch and carries it, I'm not sure that anyone could do quite as effective of a job of reading, pulling the highlights, summarizing, writing up the disclaimers about Al not being an employee of Disney, etc.
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OK, here's my attempt at a summary. I'm no Hydroguy, but I'm willing to take one for the team

- DCA shot right past the projection of 7M visitors per year, with the help of CarsLand, and is now on track to hit 9M or even 10M. This is well past all hopes and dreams of the TDA execs.

- BTMRR rehab delayed because Indy needed more work than originally thought. Now BTMRR is scheduled to go down on Jan 14 2013, and to be down most of the year.

- Acknowledged that DCA does Christmas-lite but plan to do the full Christmas treatment for CarsLand and Buena Vista Street.

- CarsLand FP distribution to stay at BugsLand. Original CL FP distribution area to become retail expansion of Ramone's.

- Major problems with dubious GAC passes being used to bypass FP at RSR. The reason FPs run out so quickly for RSR is that they can only distribute 1/3 as many as planned, since GACs are being effectively used as FPs.

- Problem with dubious GACs affects plans to go to NextGen, a la WDW. NextGen planning was scheduled for 18 months behind WDW, including enforcing FP times.

- Plans to build a themed alley behind the east side of Main Street to alleviate congestion

- Much dissatisfaction with cancelling DLR employee Christmas party.

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Thank you, Trey, for your continued efforts over the years. I will be sad to not see your Lutz summaries anymore, and yet I understand why you want to stop doing them. They have, indeed, inspired a lot of interesting discussions and speculation of 'what could be.' Plus, quite frankly, often times it just saved me the trouble of having to go over to MiceAge and look up his articles because the link and the bullet points were right here!

Even if someone else eventually picks up the Lutz torch and carries it, I'm not sure that anyone could do quite as effective of a job of reading, pulling the highlights, summarizing, writing up the disclaimers about Al not being an employee of Disney, etc.
Yes, well said Sherry! Thanks HydroGuy!
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OK, here's my attempt at a summary. I'm no Hydroguy, but I'm willing to take one for the team

- DCA shot right past the projection of 7M visitors per year, with the help of CarsLand, and is now on track to hit 9M or even 10M. This is well past all hopes and dreams of the TDA execs.

- BTMRR rehab delayed because Indy needed more work than originally thought. Now BTMRR is scheduled to go down on Jan 14 2013, and to be down most of the year.

- Acknowledged that DCA does Christmas-lite but plan to do the full Christmas treatment for CarsLand and Buena Vista Street.

- CarsLand FP distribution to stay at BugsLand. Original CL FP distribution area to become retail expansion of Ramone's.

- Major problems with dubious GAC passes being used to bypass FP at RSR. The reason FPs run out so quickly for RSR is that they can only distribute 1/3 as many as planned, since GACs are being effectively used as FPs.

- Problem with dubious GACs affects plans to go to NextGen, a la WDW. NextGen planning was scheduled for 18 months behind WDW, including enforcing FP times.

- Plans to build a themed alley behind the east side of Main Street to alleviate congestion

- Much dissatisfaction with cancelling DLR employee Christmas party.

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Thank you, Bob!

I'm shocked that they are not giving the CM's a party this year.

Not only has DCA been doing Christmas lite but they have been doing Halloween extra, extra-lite, and this madness must end!
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Thanks so much for your efforts in the past, it was really appreciated! I too don't really enjoy Al's snide comments, etc., but the insider info and rumors are interesting reads!
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I'm so sad to find out that BTMRR is going down early next year! We are hoping to take a trip, and it's one "mountain" my little kids might actually enjoy! But thanks for the summary - better to find out things like that now rather than a week or two before...
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Two more very, very interesting quotes from Al Lutz's article today:


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Am I crazy, or did I read that AP prices are gonna go up again this winter??!

And thanks, HyrdoGuy, for all your efforts to help everyone on here - from seasoned veterans to confused and overwhelmed newbies! We totally understand you "laying down the torch" and for all your summaries regarding the DCA construction/rumor mill process!
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Am I crazy, or did I read that AP prices are gonna go up again this winter??!
I think Disney's philosophy on this seems to be whatever the market will bear. Back in July, David Koenig over on MousePlanet said that it was rumored that Disney was looking at the possibility of raising ticket prices again as soon as this Christmas season and again before next summer. So the rumblings are out there. It's not that surprising really. As long as attendance continues to increase despite increased prices, from a business perspective, Disney may as well keep testing how much higher they can go. I am curious what the tipping point will be. I wonder how high they will be able to raise the prices before attendance plateaus. I know it won't be much longer though before my family is priced out, at least out of doing Disney the way we have been for the last few years. Oh well, we've already started expanding our horizons anyway.
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Two more very, very interesting quotes from Al Lutz's article today:
You're right! Those are two more salient points that I should have included in a summary, and skipped right over. Oh well, I said I wasn't Hydroguy!

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