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Old 09-13-2012, 06:19 PM   #31
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Some obscure movie video that few have heard of and even fewer have seen?

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:52 PM   #32
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I think it was more preplanned however they are absolutely after our Constitution. I have heard it said they want the U.S. Constitution under sharia law. Blaming the movie is a great way to silence your first amm. rights while meeting the anniversary of 9-11 all at the same time. I don't believe it's just a coincidence.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:02 PM   #33
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If the you tube video I saw is the "real" movie (?) ...... it is just dumb. I doubt that it is what set off the violence. It is really that dumb. Embarrassingly dumb.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:11 PM   #34
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:14 PM   #35
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:48 PM   #36
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A wholehearted YES!

The movie is sick and filled with bigotry. I liked Secretary of State Clinton's statement on the issue.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:10 PM   #37
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It was pure spin. And it won't work.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:37 PM   #38
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I think it was a catalyst. There are a lot of hard feelings towards Americans in the Middle East. 1 million Afghans dead another 5 million are refugees. The blind support offered to Israel even when it comes out that many of the things they are doing would be considered illegal if another country did the same things. The message has been sent loud and clear to the Middle East. They know how Americans feel about them. The problem is they are ready to just lay down and die. They are waiting for any excuse. This movie was an excuse. There had to be someone who translated this movie and posted the transcript in Arabic and notified the right type of people that this movie existed. Someone or some group trying to manipulate things. Whoever did it knew there was going to be a strong reaction. This is what this person or group wanted. The question is who? What was their point? Was it to create an attack against US embassies or was it to prove how violent and dangerous Arabs/Muslims etc were and to create fear, creating their own catalyst for maybe even something worse yet to come. I'm afraid that we haven't seen the last of our wars. I'm also afraid it's too easy for the general public to be manipulated.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:00 PM   #39
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The movie is sick and filled with bigotry.
Question: have you seen it?
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:05 PM   #40
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I do not believe most of these people have even seen/heard of the movie.

The threat went out days before and the US department ignored it. I think Clinton is negligible in that regard. I'm glad her words were so inspiring to some but when our Embassy's are not prepared for an inevitable attack that is a crime in my book.
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If the you tube video I saw is the "real" movie (?) ...... it is just dumb. I doubt that it is what set off the violence. It is really that dumb. Embarrassingly dumb.
I agree, and what some people here apparently don't understand is that the film hasn't even been released and isn't up online anywhere. All the supposed fuss is about the only thing that has been uploaded (the trailer), which is what you saw on Youtube.
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I do not believe most of these people have even seen/heard of the movie.

The threat went out days before and the US department ignored it. I think Clinton is negligible in that regard. I'm glad her words were so inspiring to some but when our Embassy's are not prepared for an inevitable attack that is a crime in my book.
You are correct. The State Department received warnings two days before 9/11 that attacks might be imminent on U.S. embassies or missions and did nothing:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-8135797.html

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"According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted."

And here are what things are now spiraling into:

U.S. Embassy in Tunisia burns today:



Mob in London burns American flag in front of the U.S. Embassy:



Protesters in Yemen smash the windows of the local U.S. Embassy:


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Old 09-15-2012, 07:33 AM   #43
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Well, I try to look on the bright side (for now).

There is a very clearly stated tenant of Islam that the prophet Mohammad not be portrayed at all by humans. Ok, whatever, I don't care.

So the news spreads about this movie that depicts the prophet in supposedly a REALLY bad way, and its making global news.

There are approximately 1.5 Billion muslims in the world, and I would guess that the grand total of protesters right now is only a few Thousand.

Overall I think that's good....FOR NOW. Things could change, but at the moment, we're dealing with a tiny percentage of extremists, nothing more.

Those pictures promoting peace are also very nice, thanks for posting them!
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I do not believe most of these people have even seen/heard of the movie.

The threat went out days before and the US department ignored it. I think Clinton is negligible in that regard. I'm glad her words were so inspiring to some but when our Embassy's are not prepared for an inevitable attack that is a crime in my book.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:40 PM   #45
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I think terrorists started the ball rolling, but ignorance kept it going.

There are plenty of people in the Middle East who, because they have never experienced it, can't conceive of a society that values free speech. Therefore, they can't even begin to imagine that a movie, or whatever, that was produced in a free country isn't sponsored/sanctioned by that country's government. The idea that a government might actually be opposed to a piece of garbage, but allow it to be transmitted anyway is inconceivable. Now think of someone with that mindset trying to imagine that a government doesn't even have any control over what YouTube allows to be distributed - that this is an independent company's decision! And extremists aren't likely to have the ability to think with an open mind anyway.

This is not going to be an easy problem to solve.
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