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Old 09-10-2012, 08:09 AM   #1
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Aulani vs RCI

Planning on going to Hawaii next year and the looking at the point chart Aulani seems high compared to doing a trade through RCI. I went to Maui a few years ago on a trade and was pretty satisfied. I understand the resorts may not compare, I'm sure AULANI is a dream but if I'm trying to be conservative with my points what else is there to consider? Availability perhaps is another factor.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:22 PM   #2
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Its actually hard to find a comparable resort. There are a lot of Hawaiii timeshares, but not all have the location and amenities of Aulani.

Quick question.....Are you looking to trade DVC in RCI for Hawaii, or do you have another timeshare to trade?

There are 99 resorts listed for Hawaii in RCI, not all trade with DVC.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:45 PM   #3
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I would be using my DVC points.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:46 PM   #4
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I did look at the RCI list and about 3 in Oahu
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I did look at the RCI list and about 3 in Oahu
I would stay at the HGVC Resort.

270 pts for a RCI exchange vs 441-595 pts for Aulani.

That is a pretty big difference in points.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:10 PM   #6
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I would stay at the HGVC Resort.

270 pts for a RCI exchange vs 441-595 pts for Aulani.

That is a pretty big difference in points.
RIGHT! That was my thinking too, why use more points. Although I would love to stay at Aulani so trying to justify the point usage.
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Planning on going to Hawaii next year and the looking at the point chart Aulani seems high compared to doing a trade through RCI. I went to Maui a few years ago on a trade and was pretty satisfied. I understand the resorts may not compare, I'm sure AULANI is a dream but if I'm trying to be conservative with my points what else is there to consider? Availability perhaps is another factor.
Only the Hilton's are comparable on the DVC RCI list. There are limited options for Maui, Kauai and the Big Island that are reasonable but not really comparable though most are much easier to get with cheaper options. Assuming you wouldn't be able to book until 7 months out, what I'd suggest is to look at the lists and decide on resorts that'd be acceptable then put in for an exchange request. Anything under a year out is late, anything under 10 months out is very late. Put in the request then book Aulani directly if available. Tell them to cancel and take those points for the exchange if that's your choice. I'd also suggest you talk to several of the independent exchange companies to see what they can offer. These would include Dial an Exchange, HI Timeshare Exch, Trading Places Maui, Trading Places Intl, San Francisco Exch and Platinum Interchange. Donita's had joined with DAE but I saw something that suggested they had separated and were independent again. There was also one I saw recently that I didn't recognize called Crown Vacation Exchange. A couple allow request first and most have a low or no membership fee options. Getting together with an owner at some of the resorts or systems might also be a good option. Top thoughts include Marriott, Westin, Hilton, Wyndham, Diamond maybe and Shell (including Bluegreen). These options are not mutually exclusive and many can be worked on side by side.
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RIGHT! That was my thinking too, why use more points. Although I would love to stay at Aulani so trying to justify the point usage.
There's something to be said for guaranteed choices, esp when you need airfare. Another consideration is whether you want/need 7 days or not. Realize you can't control the start day of a given exchange with certainty with RCI.
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Thanks for your input and great advice Dean. I'm specifically thinking of Oahu but airfare is a consideration. I did check out the Hilton's listed on the RCI list and they look very nice with great reviews.
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Thanks for your input and great advice Dean. I'm specifically thinking of Oahu but airfare is a consideration. I did check out the Hilton's listed on the RCI list and they look very nice with great reviews.
When interisland was cheap ($20-40 pp) I'd advocate flying into Oahu due to the lower costs and more flights but at $75 and up pp, i'm starting to rethink that approach. You might look on TUG to try to find a Hilton owner who want's a private exchange. I'm sure there are Hilton specific email lists but I'm not aware of them. If you post on TUG you should be able to get additional advice on that option. Just be careful to word it generally. Or finding a Marriott owner next door to Aulani, if that interests you, email me directly and I can give you some additional options that might be helpful. Don't discount the other exchange companies, it's very possible you could get 2 for 1 with some of them or trade a smaller unit for a larger one. Personally, if you've got the points, I'd just go to Aulani but I do realize the difference is quite substantial.
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There's something to be said for guaranteed choices, esp when you need airfare. Another consideration is whether you want/need 7 days or not. Realize you can't control the start day of a given exchange with certainty with RCI.
Agreed....I like to have my reservation in hand before or right after airfare in released. Waiting until an exchange match is found can be unnerving at best.
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Agreed....I like to have my reservation in hand before or right after airfare in released. Waiting until an exchange match is found can be unnerving at best.
Thanks, let me emphasize that even if one plans to do an exchange, book directly when possible if that choice is acceptable, even if you have to book only part of the time to avoid borrowing points you might not need later. That's another reason to talk to the independent's, they may have something acceptable in hand and may be willing to take a lessor time or smaller unit in return.

Editorial comment, I have 2 levels of acceptability when exchanging. One is that I have a minimum standard, PERIOD, and it's a fairly high standard. Some resort options are simply unacceptable to me no matter how cheap they were. The other is that I make a judgement of what I'm getting for what I'm giving. The reality is that an even exchange is not truly even because of unit assignment issues, exchange fees and cancelation risks. Here's an example. For sake of discussion lets assume DVC members could trade back in to DVC through RCI. Further assume that you were charged for the price to reserve a BWV pool view (357 pts Magic rather than 270) but when you traded back in you were given the worst standard view unit at BWV. The same principle holds if you got a pool view also, you still have the other costs/risks.
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Its actually hard to find a comparable resort. There are a lot of Hawaiii timeshares, but not all have the location and amenities of Aulani.
But some of those options to Aulani are amenity-rich properties in more accessible, popular locations than the somewhat backwater area Disney ended up in. Such as the two Hilton Grand Vacation Hawaiian Village properties in central Waikiki which can be pursued by DVC members via RCI exchanges.





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But some of those options to Aulani are amenity-rich properties in more accessible, popular locations than the somewhat backwater area Disney ended up in. Such as the two Hilton Grand Vacation Hawaiian Village properties in central Waikiki which can be pursued by DVC members via RCI exchanges.





The HGVC options, Marriott's and Westin's are it as for comparison in amenities and quality in HI. Getting one of the Hilton's on exchange is very difficult to almost impossible using DVC. The other 2 systems are II only.
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Getting one of the Hilton's on exchange is very difficult to almost impossible using DVC.
I would say challenging, but not difficult to impossible. I know a DVC member (my aunt) who was able to get into the Hilton Grand Vacations Suites at Hilton Hawaiian Village. She probably succeeded because she included it as part of large, broad search going out a full two years with a wide range of possible check in dates (she got one in late March).

But back to the issue of difficult to impossible, that would presently seem to better describe getting anything at Aulani at 7 months.

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Realize you can't control the start day of a given exchange with certainty with RCI.
Confused. Every time we have searched for weekly exchanges through RCI on the DVC website a specific check in date or dates is given for every property listed (as example, Fridays, or Fridays and Saturdays). So in the three exchanges we have done via RCI, we knew before even requesting the exchange what the specific check in date or options were at the desired property. Once we called DVC and requested the exchange, when it came through we were always offered the day or days that had been listed online and confirmed those. So I don't know what is meant by "you can't control the start day of a given exchange with certainty." For that is exactly what we did.

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