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Old 09-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #136
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Suppose Disney had instead announced plans to build a new land at AK based on fantastical creatures from a fictional foreign world. It would be a planet invented by Disney, with creatures nobody had ever heard of, born from the creative minds of Disney Imagineers.

Would Disney fans get behind the idea? I think they would, especially if Disney pledged to invest heavily in the new area. While some would no doubt still long for the unicorns and dragons of Beastly Kingdomme, I think most would support the idea of a portion of the AK park dedicated to fictional, otherworldy creatures.

Enter Pandora, the fictional world created for the "Avatar" movie(s). It's basically the same thing described above, with the exception that Pandora was conceived by James Cameron, whereas the above idea would be solely from Disney. Just because the original idea came from outside Disney, does not make it a bad idea.

And just because the movie was mediocre, does not make it a bad idea. Splash Mountain is a fantastic ride, but it is based on a racist movie nobody has ever seen. The Jungle Cruise is a Disney Classic, but few even realize the ride was inspired by "The African Queen." Other well-loved attractions, such as Space Mountain and Pirates of the Caribbean were not tied to movies at all.

So my point is that the quality of the movie has very little to do with the quality of a theme park attraction. An interesting idea, with the right creativity, along with the right financial commitment, can make for a great attraction. The Disney parks have demonstrated this time and time again.

A Pandora-based land might not have been my first choice either. But I'm willing to give it a chance.
Hmmm..... Thought it was just Walt's attempt to get his old "Nature" documentaries/episodes of the Disneyland show represented in the park?
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #137
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Maybe now they will make the Villains Land??
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:18 PM   #138
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Yeah. I hope Avatarland never comes to fruition. They have so many other things they can refurbish and I would rather see Cars Land, some updates in HS. I think the previous posts of adding other countries to AK is the best idea - starting with Australia or a rain forest.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:19 PM   #139
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Maybe now they will make the Villains Land??
Never thought of it before, but Villains Land would be great! Great idea!
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Never thought of it before, but Villains Land would be great! Great idea!
Villain's land has been in the rumor mill for years. Not happening for at least another decade or 2
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Can't say I'm surprised. I heard unofficially from a Cast Member that Joe Rohde (Executive Imagineer who did Adventurers Club, Animal Kingdom and Aulani to name a few) was having difficulties working within confines of the Avatar movie. I guess he's used to having complete creative license and developing ideas from scratch. I can't say I blame him. While Avatar was a good movie and the graphics were amazing, it just didn't seem to have enough "meat" to carry a whole land. Seems like WDW has been having some challenges lately with announced projects being "delayed" (which I interpret to maybe cancelled). First, they closed the clubs on Pleasure Island, announced Hyperion Wharf and then delayed/are reworking the additional "shopping and dining" concept. Now this entire Avatar land.....
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Can't say I'm surprised. I heard unofficially from a Cast Member that Joe Rohde (Executive Imagineer who did Adventurers Club, Animal Kingdom and Aulani to name a few) was having difficulties working within confines of the Avatar movie. I guess he's used to having complete creative license and developing ideas from scratch. I can't say I blame him. While Avatar was a good movie and the graphics were amazing, it just didn't seem to have enough "meat" to carry a whole land. Seems like WDW has been having some challenges lately with announced projects being "delayed" (which I interpret to maybe cancelled). First, they closed the clubs on Pleasure Island, announced Hyperion Wharf and then delayed/are reworking the additional "shopping and dining" concept. Now this entire Avatar land.....
Lol! Joe Rhode can barely be considered an imagineer. He's a real self absorbed d bag. If the idea of Pandora can't inspire your imagination, then you have none Joe. It has nothing to do with whether it is a great movie or not (though my daughter and BF, 23 & 24) think it is great! It has to do with what can be done creatively within those parameters and just imagine the leeway of Pandora!

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What are they actually supposed to build in Avatarland? What kind of ride is it going to be?
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My family talked about how cool it would be if instead of Avatarland if they built Narnia. It would fit it perfectly with the Animal theme since the people there live alongside animals!
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My family talked about how cool it would be if instead of Avatarland if they built Narnia. It would fit it perfectly with the Animal theme since the people there live alongside animals!
If narnia did well at the box office it would have been.the perfect replacement for beastlie kingdomme
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BK in AK don't know why they can't just pull Avatar aside and move forward to a BK expansion.
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BK in AK don't know why they can't just pull Avatar aside and move forward to a BK expansion.
Bk is dead. They won't make it now
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I would also love to see Narnia. Why in the world Avatar was chosen is beyond me. I finally watched it and we all laughed at the idol worship of the trees/Earth. I think Avatar is a huge step in the wrong direction for Disney. I'd love to see it delayed permanently if they're really going to build it.
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BK in AK don't know why they can't just pull Avatar aside and move forward to a BK expansion.
Well... Among other reasons.....

Large parts of BK were incorporated into Universal's Lost Continent, including it's major E-Ticket Attraction.... After Disney fired all the Imagineers who were working on it and Universal Creative subsequently hired them.
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Well... Among other reasons.....

Large parts of BK were incorporated into Universal's Lost Continent, including it's major E-Ticket Attraction.... After Disney fired all the Imagineers who were working on it and Universal Creative subsequently hired them.
Which is why you will never see bk at least ad originally intended
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