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*Update in Post 9* DL Federal Appeals Court Affirms Disney's Safety Ban on Segways
This is a huge win for Walt Disney World.
The court of appeals in Atlanta has upheld the district court's decision to approve the settlement in the Orlando Segway lawsuit. This means Disney can ban the use of Segways at WDW (and possibly Disneyland). http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/201112013.pdf
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One of the criteria for approving a class action settlement is whether the plaintiffs (the people suing) are likely to succeed at the trial. The district court held that they were not, based largely upon the evidence Disney presented about the safety risks posed by Segways.
The DOJ (and others) asked the court of appeals to overturn this finding. The DOJ argued it was inconsistent with the 2010 ADA regulations. The court of appeals refused: During an extensive fairness hearing before the district court, Hale [Disney's Safety Officer] testified regarding the safety risks posed by the operation of Segways® in Disney Resorts. The very factors Hale considered before deciding that Segways® are too dangerous for operation in Disney Resorts are the very factors facilities are required to consider under the new regulation.In case you are wondering how this decision squares with the California federal court of appeals Segway decision from last month, the court explained that the "Baughman" decision (as it is referred to below): did not hold that Title III requires Disney to permit Segways® in Disney Resorts, and in fact explicitly stated that Segways® can be excluded if Disney determines that the safety factors listed in 28 C.F.R. § 36.311(b)(2) warrant exclusion. Baughman, __ F.3d at __. In the present case, the district court found that if this action went to trial, Disney was likely to prevail because of its reliance upon those exact safety factors. Therefore, Baughman is factually and procedurally different from the case at bar and does not transform the district court’s well reasoned analysis into an abuse of discretion.Ms. Baughman objected to this settlement. The legal nerd in me is fascinated to know whether she is now bound by this decision (which would mean her lawsuit gets tossed). I don't know. A status conference in her case is set for September 11. I expect it will be discussed then.
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Thanks for the update. I find this case fascinating.
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Whew, that clears the way for me to get a Ryno!
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I noticed that, although this was an 11th Circuit decision, one of the Judges on the panel is from the 9th Circuit. And this could easily have an effect on the Baughman case which had been remanded to the District Court and, no matter what the result, will probably be appealed again in the 9th Circuit.
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Thanks for the update Jack!
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I mentioned in my second post that there was a status conference set for today (September 11, 2012) in the Disneyland Segway lawsuit.
Yesterday, Disney fired a shot across the Segway bow, by filing a motion to dismiss Ms. Baughman's (the DL Segway plaintiff) lawsuit because it has been settled by the "Ault" (the name of one of the WDW Segway plaintiffs) litigation. Disney explained: Quote:
Baughman's arguments seem to me to be a little bit far-fetched but this is pending in California, where far-fetched can be ordinary.
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Having ridden Segways in controlled settings (Epcot, Fort Wilderness, cruise excursion) the thought of Segways running around the parks terrifies me. I LOVE Segways. But they don't belong in crowded parks. I have had to use ECVs in the past. Even then I was afraid I would run someone over when they weren't paying attention. Thank goodness the judge seems to be making the right decision.
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