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gtitian · 07-26-2012, 06:00 PM

Hi all, I'm new to the boards, but I've been lurking here and other places around the online Disney community for a while now, and I have a question.

Seeing as so many of us Disney fanatics, particular those of us who frequent Walt Disney World agree on a few issues, has anyone ever attempted to create a massive and formal petition to affect some of the policy and infrastructure changes we so desire in the parks? I can't imagine that a petition with 100,000 or more signatures on it, politely requesting that the sorcerer hat be torn down, would be looked at lightly... particularly if the press were involved in it's presentation. Similarly a petition calling for a massive monorail expansion and returning EPCOT Center to some of it's core themes and values?

I'm just wondering if this has been tried is all. I took a look at change.org and there are a handful of petitions going over there right now, though they mostly have to do with programming on the Disney channel.

Thoughts?

Deb & Bill · 07-26-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gtitian

Hi all, I'm new to the boards, but I've been lurking here and other places around the online Disney community for a while now, and I have a question.

Seeing as so many of us Disney fanatics, particular those of us who frequent Walt Disney World agree on a few issues, has anyone ever attempted to create a massive and formal petition to affect some of the policy and infrastructure changes we so desire in the parks? I can't imagine that a petition with 100,000 or more signatures on it, politely requesting that the sorcerer hat be torn down, would be looked at lightly... particularly if the press were involved in it's presentation. Similarly a petition calling for a massive monorail expansion and returning EPCOT Center to some of it's core themes and values?

I'm just wondering if this has been tried is all. I took a look at change.org and there are a handful of petitions going over there right now, though they mostly have to do with programming on the Disney channel.

Thoughts?

Missytara · 07-26-2012, 06:22 PM

Huh....I am completely baffled.

So you want to replace the entire staff of number crunchers that determine what is best for the investors and stockholders. Don't think so.

OKW Lover · 07-26-2012, 06:53 PM

I had the same reaction as Deb & Bill. Disney is going to make their investment decisions based on what will make more money. The monorail is only a means of transportation between resorts and parks. As such its a cost. It doesn't generate any revenues.

Yes, the same can be said about busses and boats. They don't generate any revenues either. However, Disney has found its cheaper and provides more operational flexibility to invest in busses and boats rather than monorails.

Sue M · 07-26-2012, 06:59 PM

The only thing i can say is Welcome to The Boards

And I kinda like the Hat

Missytara · 07-26-2012, 07:02 PM

Can I, can I, can I .....I am an architect and a construction manager.

Do you have any idea the cost of a monorail expansion in the year 2012. I could give you the cost by the foot and it would make you fall out of your chair.

And to add insult to injury, it does not generate any income at all. Read about the expansion at Las Vegas and the subsequent issues with the city almost declaring bankruptcy for good.

Then the maintenance costs; fuel, storage for the night, getting them under cover during hurricanes to prevent damage. One track alone, where buses could be diverted anywhere on any road and be more efficient.

You have to think outside the box on these things.

LilyWDW · 07-26-2012, 07:03 PM

Disney does not accept ideas from outside sources.

tinkbyday · 07-26-2012, 07:03 PM

I like the hat too!!

Missytara · 07-26-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LilyWDW

Disney does not accept ideas from outside sources.

Thank goodness. Like I said, why would you want someone who has no experience in satisfying the stockholders wanting to dictate what goes on at any major corporation.

sadiras · 07-26-2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtitian

Hi all, I'm new to the boards, but I've been lurking here and other places around the online Disney community for a while now, and I have a question.

Seeing as so many of us Disney fanatics, particular those of us who frequent Walt Disney World agree on a few issues, has anyone ever attempted to create a massive and formal petition to affect some of the policy and infrastructure changes we so desire in the parks? I can't imagine that a petition with 100,000 or more signatures on it, politely requesting that the sorcerer hat be torn down, would be looked at lightly... particularly if the press were involved in it's presentation. Similarly a petition calling for a massive monorail expansion and returning EPCOT Center to some of it's core themes and values?

I'm just wondering if this has been tried is all. I took a look at change.org and there are a handful of petitions going over there right now, though they mostly have to do with programming on the Disney channel.

Thoughts?

I hate that hat. Where do I sign?

Tltorrez · 07-26-2012, 07:15 PM

Lol! I can't decide if this is a troll or a clever veteran poking fun at all the trolls we've had lately.

Tamdude · 07-26-2012, 07:16 PM

ok, I can't resist... Why demolish the hat?

Mom2six · 07-26-2012, 07:21 PM

Why don't people like the Sorceror's Hat?

I like it and so do my children. But then again, I'd also rather they spend the money on ride construction than a monorail.

Missytara · 07-26-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mom2six

Why don't people like the Sorceror's Hat?

I like it and so do my children. But then again, I'd also rather they spend the money on ride construction than a monorail.

Me too. I love Fantasia; the sorcerer's hat is the best.

usd2bmd · 07-26-2012, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sue M

The only thing i can say is Welcome to The Boards

And I kinda like the Hat

This

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missytara

Can I, can I, can I .....I am an architect and a construction manager. Do you have any idea the cost of a monorail expansion in the year 2012. I could give you the cost by the foot and it would make you fall out of your chair. And to add insult to injury, it does not generate any income at all. Read about the expansion at Las Vegas and the subsequent issues with the city almost declaring bankruptcy for good. Then the maintenance costs; fuel, storage for the night, getting them under cover during hurricanes to prevent damage. One track alone, where buses could be diverted anywhere on any road and be more efficient. You have to think outside the box on these things.

And This

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Originally Posted by LilyWDW

Disney does not accept ideas from outside sources.

Then there's this!

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Originally Posted by Mom2six

Why don't people like the Sorceror's Hat?

I like it and so do my children. But then again, I'd also rather they spend the money on ride construction than a monorail.

But most of all This!

07-26-2012, 06:00 PM	#1
gtitian Earning My Ears Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	Petition? Hi all, I'm new to the boards, but I've been lurking here and other places around the online Disney community for a while now, and I have a question. Seeing as so many of us Disney fanatics, particular those of us who frequent Walt Disney World agree on a few issues, has anyone ever attempted to create a massive and formal petition to affect some of the policy and infrastructure changes we so desire in the parks? I can't imagine that a petition with 100,000 or more signatures on it, politely requesting that the sorcerer hat be torn down, would be looked at lightly... particularly if the press were involved in it's presentation. Similarly a petition calling for a massive monorail expansion and returning EPCOT Center to some of it's core themes and values? I'm just wondering if this has been tried is all. I took a look at change.org and there are a handful of petitions going over there right now, though they mostly have to do with programming on the Disney channel. Thoughts?

07-26-2012, 06:22 PM	#3
Missytara I'm all ears! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,348	Huh....I am completely baffled. So you want to replace the entire staff of number crunchers that determine what is best for the investors and stockholders. Don't think so. __________________ Me and the three cats - Momma Abby and the Kids, Gracie, Jack, and R.I.P. my little Desi (10/14/11) - Momma and the kids miss you and so do I.

07-26-2012, 06:53 PM	#4
OKW Lover Yes, we love Old Key West Connoisseur of the fine things in life, and has the time to enjoy them (Just ask his wife) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 17,359	I had the same reaction as Deb & Bill. Disney is going to make their investment decisions based on what will make more money. The monorail is only a means of transportation between resorts and parks. As such its a cost. It doesn't generate any revenues. Yes, the same can be said about busses and boats. They don't generate any revenues either. However, Disney has found its cheaper and provides more operational flexibility to invest in busses and boats rather than monorails. __________________ Jeff

07-26-2012, 06:59 PM	#5
Sue M DIS Veteran Join Date: May 2009 Location: B.C. Posts: 7,226	The only thing i can say is Welcome to The Boards And I kinda like the Hat __________________ Past Trips: Aug 2003 WDW Marriott Courtyard, [B]Aug 2005 [/BSeaWorld, Universal, Busch Gardens Hilton Garden Inn, ]Aug 2007 WDW CBR, Jan 2008WDW WL, Aug 2008St. Pete Beach, Universal-HRH, Sea Workd & Aquatica- Hyatt Place & Doubletree, Jan 2009WDW AKL, Aug 2009Key West Sheraton Suites, Cocoa Beach Hampton Inn, & WDW POR/WL, Jan 2010WDW Poly, Jan 2011WDW POR, Aug 2011WDW POR/BC CL, Jan 2012WDW WL, Aug 2012AKL CL, Jan. 2013POFQ Next trip GF & YC Aug 2013

07-26-2012, 07:02 PM	#6
Missytara I'm all ears! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Delaware Posts: 13,348	Can I, can I, can I .....I am an architect and a construction manager. Do you have any idea the cost of a monorail expansion in the year 2012. I could give you the cost by the foot and it would make you fall out of your chair. And to add insult to injury, it does not generate any income at all. Read about the expansion at Las Vegas and the subsequent issues with the city almost declaring bankruptcy for good. Then the maintenance costs; fuel, storage for the night, getting them under cover during hurricanes to prevent damage. One track alone, where buses could be diverted anywhere on any road and be more efficient. You have to think outside the box on these things. __________________ Me and the three cats - Momma Abby and the Kids, Gracie, Jack, and R.I.P. my little Desi (10/14/11) - Momma and the kids miss you and so do I.

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07-26-2012, 07:03 PM	#7
LilyWDW Didn't know Disney was so stressful! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 7,068	Disney does not accept ideas from outside sources. __________________ Message Board Etiquette Rule 1: Read the sticky threads! º Rule 2: Read the whole thread first, then post Rule 3: No comparing apples to monkeys º Rule 4: Yes, this all means YOU "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." - Walt Disney DISer October 2013 Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/353374061381487/

07-26-2012, 07:03 PM	#8
tinkbyday DIS Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,745	I like the hat too!! __________________ Dec 09 YC CL Jan 09 YC Apr '08 WL and POR Jan '07 BWI Nov '05 Swan Oct '03 CBR

07-26-2012, 07:15 PM	#11
Tltorrez DIS Veteran Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 2,464	Lol! I can't decide if this is a troll or a clever veteran poking fun at all the trolls we've had lately. __________________ Terri May 2013 Offsite - Flower & Garden Festival Dec 2012 BWV & AKV - Kidani Jan 2011 BWV/Oct 2011 Dolphin Oct 2010 All-Star Music 12 Days of Christmas - Presents under the tree. Park Explorer's Kit - Goody Bags from our trip. The Princess Package - More goody bags for the family. Birthday Surprise - A party and more.

07-26-2012, 07:16 PM	#12
Tamdude Mouseketeer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 204	ok, I can't resist... Why demolish the hat? __________________ ~Tamdudette~ Pop Century x 3 POR x 1 Offsite x 2

07-26-2012, 07:21 PM	#13
Mom2six DIS Veteran Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 742	Why don't people like the Sorceror's Hat? I like it and so do my children. But then again, I'd also rather they spend the money on ride construction than a monorail. __________________ SOG: 1/29/12-2/04/12 AoA/THV: 9/05/12 -9/15/12 POFQ: 12/2/12 - 12/8/12 Next Up: POR 09/15/13-9/28/13

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