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Old 04-22-2013, 09:32 AM   #1936
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My point was that it at least gives hope to the people who thought that there would be no FD if it was not announced in April.
Oh it's not an indicator at all of anything other than Disney playing the waiting game. I have little doubt they will offer it for September. The rest of the year however may be dry but September is always the tough sell for Disney and they have to offer more than other periods to fill the rooms.

Will we see it, yes. It will just be a bit longer. Remember the Thursday rule for visa holders and you're down to just a few days to look at. I'm focusing on the 9th and 16th at this point.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:39 AM   #1937
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Oh it's not an indicator at all of anything other than Disney playing the waiting game. I have little doubt they will offer it for September. The rest of the year however may be dry but September is always the tough sell for Disney and they have to offer more than other periods to fill the rooms.

Will we see it, yes. It will just be a bit longer. Remember the Thursday rule for visa holders and you're down to just a few days to look at. I'm focusing on the 9th and 16th at this point.
Can you remind me about the Thursday rule for visa holders? We just applied and got approved, but we're waiting on our card. I was hoping I would get it before any FD promo releases so we could choose our room early!
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #1938
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Can you remind me about the Thursday rule for visa holders? We just applied and got approved, but we're waiting on our card. I was hoping I would get it before any FD promo releases so we could choose our room early!
Basically, DV holders are offered most deals on Thursdays with the GP getting the same offer the following Monday or Tuesday. We just get a head start on most deals before the public.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:56 AM   #1939
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Can you remind me about the Thursday rule for visa holders? We just applied and got approved, but we're waiting on our card. I was hoping I would get it before any FD promo releases so we could choose our room early!
The majority of the times in the past, Disney seems to LOVE releasing promos for Disney Visa holders on a Thursday. Generally this is two-three days before the public offer. Before this trend, they used to release to Visa holders on a Monday, but I guess they found Thursday to be a better day to start...hence the trend. Note the recent Summer promo released to Disney Visa holders on March 28 (Thursday) and went public the following Tuesday.

Some further insight:

Here's prior dates of free dining releases...

2005 - Booking started June 2
2006 - Booking started April 1
2007 - Booking started April 9
2008 - Booking started April 7
2009 - Booking started March 30
2010 - Booking started April 29
2011 - Booking started April 28
2012 - Booking started March 1

I know what you're thinking, the June 2 date would just kill most folks here wouldn't it?
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #1940
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I should also point out that TAs usually get info between 10-14 days out, which is when Danny will know for sure. Outside of that, we hear mumblings of dates and small bits of information as well as looking at historical trends.

I will note however that in 2010 when I nailed the date, final word came only THREE DAYS prior to release. It nearly drove us all crazy and I was sure I had missed my mark. I don't think they wait that close now, but who knows at this point what those sneaky folks may pull. Also note, I'm not saying this to advocate the April 25 date in any way, as I feel sure that this date is dead.

Happy thoughts everyone!!!!
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:08 AM   #1941
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The majority of the times in the past, Disney seems to LOVE releasing promos for Disney Visa holders on a Thursday. Generally this is two-three days before the public offer. Before this trend, they used to release to Visa holders on a Monday, but I guess they found Thursday to be a better day to start...hence the trend. Note the recent Summer promo released to Disney Visa holders on March 28 (Thursday) and went public the following Tuesday.

Some further insight:

Here's prior dates of free dining releases...

2005 - Booking started June 2
2006 - Booking started April 1
2007 - Booking started April 9
2008 - Booking started April 7
2009 - Booking started March 30
2010 - Booking started April 29
2011 - Booking started April 28
2012 - Booking started March 1

I know what you're thinking, the June 2 date would just kill most folks here wouldn't it?
We went in '05. My thinking is the reason they released it then was:
1) The dining plan was fairly new (the ddp as it exists now--they added the QS later, I think) . They wanted to introduce more people to it.
2) Bookings were very low, still building since 9/11.
3) There had been three hurricanes that affected WDW the year before. People were nervous about booking in Aug./Sept. for that reason.

I think they only came up with the idea when all those moons aligned, probably around May.

[Why is it I always picture the brainstorming scene from Apollo 13 when I think of Disney coming up with new promotions? "Don't leave this room until you have manipulated all the components to fit our needs."]

Then it took off...and they had incentive to do it again...and again.
I think that if they waited till June now, they would risk losing the people who have to make their vacation plans several months in advance.
We were able to take advantage of my dh's college break in '05 and change our trip to Aug. from Dec. But not everyone has that flexibility.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:09 AM   #1942
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I should also point out that TAs usually get info between 10-14 days out, which is when Danny will know for sure. Outside of that, we hear mumblings of dates and small bits of information as well as looking at historical trends.

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I may be wrong, but I don't think Danny is a TA. Didn't he mention on one of his threads a year or two ago that he had a family member or friend who worked for corporate Disney? Did I dream that? Lol!
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:11 AM   #1943
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I may be wrong, but I don't think Danny is a TA. Didn't he mention on one of his threads a year or two ago that he had a family member or friend who worked for corporate Disney? Did I dream that? Lol!
Not sure if you dreamed THAT, but did I dream that at one point he said he would tell us the new discount 20 days before it went live?
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:23 AM   #1944
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Oh it's not an indicator at all of anything other than Disney playing the waiting game. I have little doubt they will offer it for September. The rest of the year however may be dry but September is always the tough sell for Disney and they have to offer more than other periods to fill the rooms.

Will we see it, yes. It will just be a bit longer. Remember the Thursday rule for visa holders and you're down to just a few days to look at. I'm focusing on the 9th and 16th at this point.
Good point. We've been using FD in the last week of August for the past couple of years, so now we're just waiting with baited-breath for the arrival dates that qualify for FD.....if FD is offered, that is.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:29 AM   #1945
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I may be wrong, but I don't think Danny is a TA. Didn't he mention on one of his threads a year or two ago that he had a family member or friend who worked for corporate Disney? Did I dream that? Lol!
Not saying he's a TA, but he's definitely getting some leaked info, at least for now. Disney has really been cracking down on leaks lately so I hope that in our yearning for information that we don't get anyone in trouble. At any rate, he tends to get his info when the TAs do.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:40 AM   #1946
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The majority of the times in the past, Disney seems to LOVE releasing promos for Disney Visa holders on a Thursday. Generally this is two-three days before the public offer. Before this trend, they used to release to Visa holders on a Monday, but I guess they found Thursday to be a better day to start...hence the trend. Note the recent Summer promo released to Disney Visa holders on March 28 (Thursday) and went public the following Tuesday.

Some further insight:

Here's prior dates of free dining releases...

2005 - Booking started June 2
2006 - Booking started April 1
2007 - Booking started April 9
2008 - Booking started April 7
2009 - Booking started March 30
2010 - Booking started April 29
2011 - Booking started April 28
2012 - Booking started March 1

I know what you're thinking, the June 2 date would just kill most folks here wouldn't it?
Ok, good to know. I am assuming I'll get an email or something from VISA?
I'll have to switch my room likely since we're set for LM now. I just hope free dining for early fall extends to 10/4 since Columbus Day is later this year. If not, might be stuck waiting for the late fall promo this summer!**fingers crossed**
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:45 AM   #1947
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We are Disney Visa holders and notification from them can be hit or miss...sometimes a bit late. i would suggest that you log into your account at Chase dot com to confirm if you have any doubts once the announcement has been made. hoping it comes soon, and brings gallons of pixie dust to be shared happy waiting everyone
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:55 AM   #1948
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I've used FD for most of our trips from mid Aug to the third week of Aug. We are booked at POFQ for Aug 14-24 and Im hoping for FD and will adjust our dates if needed (only slightly). I've checked the restaurants for available times and I can get any restaurant I want for the times we mormally eat which is between 5:30 to 6:30 for our scheduled trip. What does this mean???? Low crowds, bring your own sandwich???? Hope it goes back to the mid Aug dates.....My kids actually pray for this in church....
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I've used FD for most of our trips from mid Aug to the third week of Aug. We are booked at POFQ for Aug 14-24 and Im hoping for FD and will adjust our dates if needed (only slightly). I've checked the restaurants for available times and I can get any restaurant I want for the times we mormally eat which is between 5:30 to 6:30 for our scheduled trip. What does this mean???? Low crowds, bring your own sandwich???? Hope it goes back to the mid Aug dates.....My kids actually pray for this in church....
I saw lots of availibility online too for my stay in September but called Disney for actually placing dining reservations two days ago and surprisingly found availability was quite tight. We are also a party of 4 and what we found was a lot of online times for a party of 4 are actually 2x tables of 2 - which doesn't work with a toddler and infant. If you want to actually sit at a table with your whole family availability was much more scarce. As examples, I had 1 time to choose for Hollywood and Vine and two times to pick for in Epcot princess storybook lunch (don't remember the name of the place off the top of my head). That's it. Online I had double the availability or more. Just wanted to give you an FYI that the online booking tool is probably not the best indicator of availability for your specific needs and I'd book via phone anyway instead - they are SUPER HELPFUL and SUPER NICE (like most CM's are!).
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:37 PM   #1950
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Did Danny25 say anything today? I just did a quick glance and people are saying it seems the April 25th date is dead? Did something happen that I missed?
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