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Old 04-20-2014, 09:21 PM   #2986
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Part of my problem is that lately I don't know what the point value of foods are that I am eating and I don't really have a way to calculate them. Another excuse is that it is getting warm out which means that I am out on the deck in the evening enjoying an alcoholic beverage (just one) almost nightly. I don't usually do that. Another is that I haven't exercised in 2 weeks and that is partly because of my foot and partly because I am making excuses that I am too busy. Tonight I am having Easter dinner, so there's my next excuse. Erf.


At least you know what you're doing. Take our victories where we find them! You are here, you are talking and sharing, you are yearning to get some exercise...you're doing wonderfully, I think.

DH travels for work, and deals with the same problem of not knowing how to count foods. After months and months of plateauing or gaining (then losing exactly what he gained, which is its own plateau type) he's grown sick of it, and is now taking what the tracker says for a restaurant food and doubling it.


Mmm, adult beverages.... I, sadly, have nearly had to give them all up. One, my taste has totally changed and I don't like the beers I used to like (I'm mainly a beer drinker)...two, my stomach can't deal with as much booze as I WANT to drink, LOL...three, total lightweight now, even more so than before...four, it destroys my own personal weight loss/maintenance efforts. So sad. But then we loop to #1 where I don't like much that I used to like, and I feel less rotten about it.


As for my stuff...this time really feels like THE time! Although I never even got close to goal in my previous 3 times doing WW, when I would start gaining I would stop going to meetings and would eat to console myself. And I never got rid of old clothes, before, so I wasn't in financial pain because of the gain. This time I would have to search through piles of to-be-donated clothes to find the next size or two up, but then I'd be out of luck because they are gone.

It's weird when I think about it, because emotionally it FEELS like as big a deal as it did 80+ pounds ago, but then I hear what I'm saying and realize I don't need to freak out quite yet. Then I have more rounds of circular conversation with myself and then go have a banana, LOL.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:00 AM   #2987
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Mmm, adult beverages.... I, sadly, have nearly had to give them all up. One, my taste has totally changed and I don't like the beers I used to like (I'm mainly a beer drinker)...two, my stomach can't deal with as much booze as I WANT to drink, LOL...three, total lightweight now, even more so than before...four, it destroys my own personal weight loss/maintenance efforts. So sad. But then we loop to #1 where I don't like much that I used to like, and I feel less rotten about it.

It's weird when I think about it, because emotionally it FEELS like as big a deal as it did 80+ pounds ago, but then I hear what I'm saying and realize I don't need to freak out quite yet. Then I have more rounds of circular conversation with myself and then go have a banana, LOL.
I'm not a big drinker but I like to have a glass of wine or a cocktail or two each week. Since the weather has been wonderful the last few days I've had at least one drink daily.

I can understand how emotionally it feels the same. That mental struggle does not go away just because you meet goal. You know that if you backslide how difficult it can be to get back to goal.

Today I did get outside and run... sort of. I've definitely lost some endurance and running on the treadmill is not same! I only went a mile and I walked more than I would have liked. But I got out there. It is kind of funny but I have a war with myself. I don't like to run. But I want to be able to run. Weird huh?
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:58 AM   #2988
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So I weighed in today and was down 1.4 lbs. That's without tracking all week. I don't know how or why but I will take it. This morning I have already tracked breakfast and lunch. Hopefully I can keep it up tonight. That is where I am most likely to fall off. Hope everyone is having a great day!
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:27 PM   #2989
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I have a MRI on my foot on Friday. The PA saw a spot on my xray but is not sure what it is. Guess time will tell. I'm pretty bummed though.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:52 AM   #2990
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I have a MRI on my foot on Friday. The PA saw a spot on my xray but is not sure what it is. Guess time will tell. I'm pretty bummed though.
Sorry to hear about your foot. At least the MRI will diagnose it.
Don't let this derail you. Runners have a unique personality and many try to run through anything!! Respect your body. You don't need to run to lose weight.
Hang in there and good luck with the MRI. Coincidentally, my DD is having one tomorrow on her leg. The MD thinks either a stress fracture or something called exertional compartment syndrome. Really hoping for the stress fracture diagnosis!

Now for my good news, I'm in ONEderland for the first time in 6 years!
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:56 AM   #2991
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Sorry to hear about your foot. At least the MRI will diagnose it.
Don't let this derail you. Runners have a unique personality and many try to run through anything!! Respect your body. You don't need to run to lose weight.
Hang in there and good luck with the MRI. Coincidentally, my DD is having one tomorrow on her leg. The MD thinks either a stress fracture or something called exertional compartment syndrome. Really hoping for the stress fracture diagnosis!

Now for my good news, I'm in ONEderland for the first time in 6 years!
Yay on Onederland!!! And I hope your daughter has a stress fracture, much better than compartment syndrome!

I'm just going to have to focus on doing WW the way it is supposed to be. When I'm running I have a little more wiggle room. Hopefully I'm just making a big deal out of nothing.
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Thanks for the "Yay". It's fun to share with people who understand.
I was just reading something about the spice tumeric and it's antiinflammatory properties. I've been using a nutribullet for smoothies and am going to try it. Maybe that might help with your foot.
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Thanks for the "Yay". It's fun to share with people who understand.
I was just reading something about the spice tumeric and it's antiinflammatory properties. I've been using a nutribullet for smoothies and am going to try it. Maybe that might help with your foot.
Onederland is an amazing place to be. It has been about 8 years since I've seen it. I think I will throw a party once I get there! lol

I have heard of turmeric and one of my nurses uses it for her arthritis pain. She swears by it. It would probably be better for me than the ibuprofen that I most likely take too much of. Let me know how it works out for you.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:12 PM   #2994
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This plateau is killing me! I'm actually up about two pounds now, so back to saying I've lost 90 lbs instead of 92. Between trip to the beach, Easter, and our anniversary, I have not been making WW choices. Yesterday was our anniversary and I wracked up a total of 65 points for the day -- and really didn't eat that much! It is just what I chose to eat that caused the points (quiche for breakfast, filet mignon at lunch and sour cream and butter on my potato). I knew I would be over but I was shocked when I finally sat down with my tracker and added everything in.

Dh kept telling me to skip the meeting this week since I knew I was up from Easter eating, but I told him that if I skip once it makes it that much easier to skip the next time. So I went and was up .6. Then we had our anniversary blow out Wednesday but today I felt ready to get back into the groove of things. I still have points left and don't feel like eating anything.

Staycool -- When will you find out about your MRI?

Psychodisney -- Yay for onderland!
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This plateau is killing me! I'm actually up about two pounds now, so back to saying I've lost 90 lbs instead of 92. Between trip to the beach, Easter, and our anniversary, I have not been making WW choices. Yesterday was our anniversary and I wracked up a total of 65 points for the day -- and really didn't eat that much! It is just what I chose to eat that caused the points (quiche for breakfast, filet mignon at lunch and sour cream and butter on my potato). I knew I would be over but I was shocked when I finally sat down with my tracker and added everything in.

Dh kept telling me to skip the meeting this week since I knew I was up from Easter eating, but I told him that if I skip once it makes it that much easier to skip the next time. So I went and was up .6. Then we had our anniversary blow out Wednesday but today I felt ready to get back into the groove of things. I still have points left and don't feel like eating anything.

Staycool -- When will you find out about your MRI?

Psychodisney -- Yay for onderland!
You were right not to skip your meeting. That is a slippery slope and you have worked so hard to get to where you are. You've had a couple of crazy weeks. But the holiday is over and so is your anniversary. The joy of WW is the ability to start over every day. You've got this!

They called me to today and moved my appointment from tomorrow to next Thursday. My insurance has not approved the MRI yet so they won't do it. So tomorrow I get to pick up that lovely boot. The best part is that my work is having a formal gala for a fundraiser. So I will be all decked out with my boot. lol
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:06 PM   #2996
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Alright ladies and gents...

I REALLY need you!!

I hate the new pointsplus program, so I plan to follow the old points program at home but I totally need to be held accountable to someone and who better that Disney lovers like me?!?

I am starting today...I weighed in this morning , cried a little and then decided to find this thread. I can't afford to gain another ounce!!

I have my tracking sheets all printed and filed in my binder and the house is filled with healthy food and a few low point treats.

I need to lose 100 pounds, which seems daunting but I'm going to set my first goal at 20 and start working towards that.

I generally walk 40 mins or so every day and as a family, we have set a goal to do one of the 5K training plans (this is week three of a nine week program) so that's 90 mins a week of walking/jogging.

My weakness for snacking hits between 7 pm and 11 pm and once I start, I just can't seem to stop myself. I have to find a way to stop eating when I run out of points!

Any suggestions??
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Alright ladies and gents...

I REALLY need you!!

I hate the new pointsplus program, so I plan to follow the old points program at home but I totally need to be held accountable to someone and who better that Disney lovers like me?!?

What do you hate about PP? It's not really new; it's been out since, I believe, 2011. The only thing that has changed since then has been communication about it and Simple Start (but that's not PP). What program did you follow before? I first did WW in '00 and loved that program. Never hit goal. Went back in '02 and was OK with that program (though I still used it as a "let's see how few points I can eat" program)...never hit goal...got to my wedding day, 2 weeks later was pregnant, went off of WW. Went back a year later, refused to follow anything in the program, quit. 7 years later went back, thought I would hate Points Plus but followed it, this time ate ALL points coming to me, found true success.

My point is...there are many old programs. All are good if you actually do them, and although I thought I would seek out my ancient '00 plan materials, I'm glad I gave PP a try.


I am starting today...I weighed in this morning , cried a little and then decided to find this thread. I can't afford to gain another ounce!!

I have my tracking sheets all printed and filed in my binder and the house is filled with healthy food and a few low point treats.

At the beginning it's about portion control and doing what you can do to change your mindset, but don't forget that indulgences are a part of the program and life. I personally would have quit if the only treats I could have were low point. In fact it was that mindset that caused me to quit each time (apart from the being pregnant part...though I certainly could have continued to be mindful of what I ate, but then it's hard when you feel you have no support and all you are dealing with are food aversions where you eat what you can)...felt I couldn't have good stuff, would have good stuff without planning for it, would go over points, would feel guilty, would quit, time and time again. I feel that that is what makes this program and the communication about this program to be so different; they totally allow indulgences and as long as you plan for them, there's no need to have guilt over them.

I need to lose 100 pounds, which seems daunting but I'm going to set my first goal at 20 and start working towards that.

One day, one healthIER choice, at a time!

I generally walk 40 mins or so every day and as a family, we have set a goal to do one of the 5K training plans (this is week three of a nine week program) so that's 90 mins a week of walking/jogging.

My weakness for snacking hits between 7 pm and 11 pm and once I start, I just can't seem to stop myself. I have to find a way to stop eating when I run out of points!

Any suggestions??

First step. Plan for those hours. Pre-track the sorts of foods that work for you. Put 'em in there, look forward to them. Have fun. Don't feel guilty. That's the point of planning!

But I do worry about using a different plan. Depending on the plan, do you have to count points for fruits and veggies? Because I gotta tell you, one of the best parts of PP for me is the zero point (most) fruits and veggies! Those help me like nothing else. They turn a sometimes paltry-seeming weighed-out 7 point portion of excellent ice cream into a fabulous treat with unsweetened frozen berries and cherries. A huge salad with weighed out dressing is a great way to get my need for bulk in, while not going crazy with points. And on those days where I work out hard, half (or sometimes a whole) avocado (always WEIGH the avocado! don't use the "1/4 of the most enormous avocado we've ever seen" tracker entry!) gives me the extra points I need so I don't faint (happened early in my increased activity on a bad bad day) and gives me good fats, etc.

If you don't get zero point veggies and most fruits...well it's going to be all about portion control and pre-tracking what you love to eat in the evenings.

To avoid eating at all (assuming you've been well nourished that day, not that you're starving yourself) in the evenings, you can go to bed, or if you really want to stay up, you can take up knitting, needlepoint, sewing, scrapbooking...something that keeps your hands busy and gives you an urge to keep your hands sparkling clean. You can't eat potato chips and do a hands-on craft, unless you want to get your work all greasy.
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I was doing the program right before the switch in 2011 to pointsplus.

So...right in the middle of my week, my online tracker switched over and all my points were messed up for the week. I was furious. I didn't go to meetings at that time, I was only online so I didn't know the switch was coming and that it was mandatory.

I faltered for a month on the new plan (and I had lost 55 pounds on the regular points plan up to that point), gained weight WHILE ON THE PROGRAM and eventually quit. I was so mad that the change was non optional that I stayed away from WW entirely since then and obviously had only temporary success with the "fad" diets. Eventually, I gained back every pound.

This last year has included a cross country move and a great deal of (extended) family drama and I'm tired of shopping in the plus size stores and the yo-yo diets.

I'd really like to hit goal before my 40th birthday (December 4th 2015) and the way I see it...the program where I had all the success three years ago is the way to do it!

I just really need someone to report to so I stick with it! DH is too soft!
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I was doing the program right before the switch in 2011 to pointsplus.

So...right in the middle of my week, my online tracker switched over and all my points were messed up for the week. I was furious. I didn't go to meetings at that time, I was only online so I didn't know the switch was coming and that it was mandatory.
The slight change in plans between pre-wedding and post-baby drove me crazy, too. I can totally empathize with the big huge change you experienced!

What do you think it was that caused the gain? While they upped the number of points (er, pointsplus) we get from the old points programs, they also upped the number of points(plus) in various foods.

It's funny what a mindgame that is for me; when I was doing WW in '00 I think I got something like 18 points (plus flex, or whatever those area called, which I never planned to use so if I used them it was a blow out and I would stop going) and to get 31 when I first started this program Feb '12 both boggled me AND made me feel happy. Apart from zero point veggies and most fruits (and that now I eat all Weekly and Activity points), I eat the same amount of food as I did then...so for me it was just a mental thing.

I'm not trying to combat you, by the way, I was really curious.

If you can truly follow the old program, yay you! (DS has been watching Suite Life of Zack and Cody episodes and I keep channeling London Tipton with "yay you", LOL) I remember trying, back in '04/05ish, but I just needed the official stuff, to BE officially in the program. [So that I could pay the company then refuse to follow it...I refused dairies, I refused oils, I refused to give up my massive, untracked, pieces of chocolate cake....oh man was I a mess then! ]

Then again, I wasn't a member here then, and therefore didn't have this thread for support.

My DH is too easy on me, too...and worse, when I overeat, HE overeats, then I try to match his food intake, which is a horrible mistake, and the cycle is bad bad bad. I hope you don't have that dynamic going on as well!
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The slight change in plans between pre-wedding and post-baby drove me crazy, too. I can totally empathize with the big huge change you experienced!

What do you think it was that caused the gain? While they upped the number of points (er, pointsplus) we get from the old points programs, they also upped the number of points(plus) in various foods.

In all honesty...I don't know. Nothing changed but the way I was able to track stuff...I just couldn't wrap my head around the new plan. I was doing so well on the other program that being forced into a new one made me . I HATE that I can't just look at the specs and determine the points value based on calories, fat and fiber content. That's what keeps me from trying again.

It's funny what a mindgame that is for me; when I was doing WW in '00 I think I got something like 18 points (plus flex, or whatever those area called, which I never planned to use so if I used them it was a blow out and I would stop going) and to get 31 when I first started this program Feb '12 both boggled me AND made me feel happy. Apart from zero point veggies and most fruits (and that now I eat all Weekly and Activity points), I eat the same amount of food as I did then...so for me it was just a mental thing.

I'm not trying to combat you, by the way, I was really curious.

If you can truly follow the old program, yay you! (DS has been watching Suite Life of Zack and Cody episodes and I keep channeling London Tipton with "yay you", LOL) I remember trying, back in '04/05ish, but I just needed the official stuff, to BE officially in the program. [So that I could pay the company then refuse to follow it...I refused dairies, I refused oils, I refused to give up my massive, untracked, pieces of chocolate cake....oh man was I a mess then! ]

Then again, I wasn't a member here then, and therefore didn't have this thread for support.

This was my reasoning behind joining this thread. When I stay on plan...everything is great...I just need to report to someone so I STAY on plan.

My DH is too easy on me, too...and worse, when I overeat, HE overeats, then I try to match his food intake, which is a horrible mistake, and the cycle is bad bad bad. I hope you don't have that dynamic going on as well!
No, thankfully we don't have that dynamic. His choices don't affect me either way. He can eat whatever he wants right in front of me and it doesn't bother me...he can also be strong whilst I hoover up everything in sight. It's just that he's so gentle about it...he may say "you don't really need that" but it doesn't stop me. Of course, he can't exactly say "hey fatty...step away from the ice cream. Do you want to be a size 18 forever?" Well, not without risking physical harm, anyway.
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