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Old 06-02-2013, 03:12 PM   #2206
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One of the ladies in my meeting has only done Simply Filling and she has done great on it. I'm keeping that in the back of my head for the future if I need to change things up a bit.
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Old 06-02-2013, 04:07 PM   #2207
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Weighed in yesterday- down another lb which makes for 12 total It feels good to be back on track. I rejoined at the end of December but didn't really start sticking to it until April.

I also eat my extra points (not all but some) on the weekend and stick to my dailies during the week. I weigh-in on Saturday mornings.

Have a great week!
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Old 06-02-2013, 04:22 PM   #2208
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Today was horrible I didn't even journal. I'm just going to assume I ate allmy weekly points and get back on track tomorrow.
I would make the suggestion that you try to track yesterday now. It might really give you a handle on what you do on those days, and maybe what you wish you would have done. That way next month (I did read your followup post) you can have a plan? Figure out the things you TRULY loved eating yesterday, what was really worth it, and make sure to have some of those things, and have a plan for those things.

In the last 2 weeks I've had some days (it was DS's birthday over Mem Day weekend) where I said "I'm not tracking today!" and then hours later went back and tracked, and I was pleasantly surprised about what I had actually done (vs the nightmare I thought I had done). But even if it had gone the other way, it's worth knowing. Going into the red on etools was only frightening the first time I did it. Since then...it's just a color.

Are you doing meetings? If so, have you bought the member packet thing with the weird neoprene zippered thing and measuring tape, measuring cups, etc? If you have that, have you looked at the Success Handbook? It's actually QUITE good. I'm not usually into stuff like that (it's described on the cover as "your very own blueprint for success"), but I forced myself to open it, and it's good stuff. If you can get your hands on it, it might be worth it.

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Old 06-03-2013, 05:25 PM   #2209
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How are you following the program? Do you allow yourself treats or are you so strict you end up with cravings? Do you eat only daily points or do you allow yourself the weekly and/or activity points? Do you get your good health guidelines in each day? Do you weigh or measure everything and track everything?

I know that when I blame the program and quit, I regret it. And later realize it wasn't the program, but me, that was to blame.



I was at the Y while writing that. Editing to add.... I ask those questions because if you were doing it one way before, and it has been causing these needs for lots of higher points foods, maybe there's another way to do it. For me, since I eat all the points that are coming to me, I have room for my desserts, which I seem to truly need. If I don't have my treats, I start getting REALLY cravey, and that does not help my situation. I can only talk myself out of the fridge for so many days or hours, and then I'm going to do some damage. So I include treats, I plan them out. One day there was a particularly pointy thing I had planned for dessert, so I pre-tracked it before I even had breakfast, to make SURE I could have it.

The GHGs are so important for feeling full, especially the oils. I'm not sure that I notice a change in weight with the oils, but hair and nails look a whole lot better when I do. I'm not a dairy fan (though I'm a dairy addict), and it's a total fallacy that we get ANY calcium from it (which is why Americans drink so much dairy and are getting more and more osteoporosis), BUT they do ADD other nutrients to things like milk, and those added things are good for us. If I could break my addiction I would just make sure to get those things elsewhere, and leave the dairy behind. (I already get calcium from lots of other places so I don't worry about the lack of calcium I'm absorbing from the dairy...I do NOT do soymilk, as I get enough soy elsewhere and don't want more) So making sure I'm getting the protein and the D and the choline and whatnot is important for my nutrition and sense of satisfaction.

I eat a lot of fruits and veggies, and I would never, will never, count a point for them (if I made an apple pie I would count everything in it except for the apples...same with a homemade carrot cake...that's not actually WW's stance on those two things, because they say we can lose control of things like that...but that's what *counting points* is for, LOL). BUT I track them, so I know how many servings of them I'm getting. Right now I'm absolutely obsessed with this frozen cherries and berries thing at Trader Joes; I'm putting them in everything. And I track the amount I'm eating, even if they are zero points. I have to know what I'm doing. That way if I ever go for 6+ weeks without losing a single ounce, doing absolutely everything else right, and the ONLY thing I'm doing "wrong" is getting way over the 5 servings that are the minimum, I know where to look first.

So rather than changing programs, I would say to look at how you've been following THIS program, and see if there are ways to perfect what you've been doing. I weigh my salad dressing; put the plate on the scale, zero it out, pour out my 30 grams or 45 or 60, whatever I'm using that night. I weigh everything that has a grams or ounces measurement on the package...I *measure* my olive oil and almost always the dairy milk (though I've found that with skim, the weight is actually about the same as the fluid ounces on the package...if it were whole milk that likely wouldn't work), and that's about all I use a measuring spoon/cup/whatever for. Oh, and my half&half for my coffee. And my sugar for my coffee. And that's all I can think of.

So I would tighten things up, or just look to see if there are areas that you can tighten up, and go from there.


The thing you don't want to do is simply quit. You likely know what will happen if you quit. DH and I were talking about our losses tonight, and I was empathizing with how long it's taking for him (he's a naturally slow loser, and it's been made worse by this pituitary tumor he's been dealing with for a few years now), and I was telling him that if he quit, probably our leader would simply die (she loves him) and half the class would think seriously about quitting themselves. But he doesn't want to quit, because he KNOWS what would happen. As I said to him, with us, I would refind my 220.8 quickly and probably meet 250, and he would probably find out what 400 feels like (which would be an all time high for him). No one wants that, so...quitting isn't an option for us.

I wish you the best of luck, and hope you had nourishment while reading my ridiculously long post.
I have been on program for 2 yrs now and loved it. I love to journal and have no problem doing it. I love having a weekly menu so each day is planned. But I think I'm eating the same stuff all the time because it's "safe" and I know the points without guessing. Since Christmas I just want all the stuff I don't need (cakes, pies, pizza, etc) I would allow myself treats each week on WI night but it's become that I want it everyday now. I do run 3 miles 4 days a week and even that has become a "I don't want to go" today. I just feel like the honeymoon is over and I want to do something different to get me back excited.
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Old 06-04-2013, 07:44 AM   #2210
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Dbrn, I just saw your post (you ended up at the bottom of a page--easy for me to miss!). Welcome to you! 56 lbs is fabulous! I can imagine it would be hard to keep that momentum going, but you are more than halfway there. I haven't tried simply filling, but I wish you all good things with it. I like the idea of changing it up, too. I think we do need to shake it up every now and again to keep things going in the right direction.
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:38 AM   #2211
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Hi Everyone! I would love to jump on this bandwagon. After giving birth to my first daughter in 1993, I went to WW and lost all of my weight and became a lifetime member in 1994.

Fast forward to last night...and two additional kids. lol I went back because I need to lose about 50 pounds.

I'm not sure how I feel about the 360 plan. My question is, How do you figure points for things you eat in which you have the nutrition info? I found a points plus calculator online, but I don't see one in my welcome info. Do they hand this out in week 2?

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Old 06-04-2013, 01:12 PM   #2212
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Welcome rcpae!

As far as I know the only thing you're given is the original book that has "all" foods in it (and...it doesn't of course!). I bought a calculator for about $10. There's no slider anymore. If you have the online tools, you can get a free app for your phone. I use my phone more and more (because I am more likely to be able to find it than the calculator or the book--I can call my phone if it's MIA!). There's no included way that I know of to calculate food from the nutrition panel anymore, you either buy the calculator or subscribe to etools. Sorry!

Welcome back. I also made lifetime and am back at it. (2006 for me, I gained 65 since then--I'm an overachiever! If it took you 20 years to gain 50, you're not doing too badly!)

Edited to add, I like the 360 plan better than the version I did in 2005/06. I like the idea that they are talking about strategies that go beyond the kitchen (though a lot of it you've probably heard before--but they are a bit more comprehensive now). I also love the free fruit and veg. That is helping me make a real healthy change, to be building the habit of reaching for fruit and veg *first* .

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Old 06-04-2013, 04:55 PM   #2213
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I have been on program for 2 yrs now and loved it. I love to journal and have no problem doing it. I love having a weekly menu so each day is planned. But I think I'm eating the same stuff all the time because it's "safe" and I know the points without guessing. Since Christmas I just want all the stuff I don't need (cakes, pies, pizza, etc) I would allow myself treats each week on WI night but it's become that I want it everyday now. I do run 3 miles 4 days a week and even that has become a "I don't want to go" today. I just feel like the honeymoon is over and I want to do something different to get me back excited.
The stuff you're eating all the time because it's safe... if those are foods you buy and aren't making, go back and check the nutrition info, make SURE it's all the same. Companies just love to change ingredients and components, so make sure there aren't any errors there!

I like switching things up; I think it keeps my body on its toes.

You're a runner; do you do races? If not, would that keep you excited, to have something to train for?

Treats...can you do smaller amounts on the nights when you want it? I have dessert most nights. Though recently "dessert" sometimes is 0% Fage plain yogurt with two+ servings of thawed-out cherry/berries blend from Trader Joe's. Not sure how my taste buds are calling that dessert, but I guess after 400+ days on WW your taste buds start to change, LOL.


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I'm not sure how I feel about the 360 plan. My question is, How do you figure points for things you eat in which you have the nutrition info? I found a points plus calculator online, but I don't see one in my welcome info. Do they hand this out in week 2?

Thanks so much!
Since they use four factors now (fat, fiber, carbs, and protein), a slider doesn't work. You have to use the handheld calculator you can buy at a meeting, or if you have access to etools you use the calculator there.

I personally call this plan Points Plus, since nothing points-wise has changed since they put the 360 label on it. To me, the 360 is the mental, emotional factor they have started to talk about. That probably means nothing to you since you started after the 360 was started, but I had nearly a year without 360, and all 360 added was mental/emotional stuff. Totally totally important and Im' glad they are looking at it now, but it didn't change the Points Plus. : )


Take your time to get to know the new program. Read your materials, and read them again! It's good stuff. I thought nothing would ever top the program I first joined with in mid-2000, but I absolutely adore pointsplus. And that started once I actually read the materials. Thought the stuff they gave me was just ads...whoops!
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Hi everyone! With my weigh-in being Monday, I got to skip a week. So, I veered a little off course Memorial Day weekend. I'm still down 2.4lbs, and I have 12 to go to get to what is considered a healthy weight for my height. Still haven't set an official goal, but I want to be somewhere in the middle of my weight range.

I hope everyone has a good week! To NC State, my feeling on that is that I have had to get away from rewarding myself with food. Maybe if you don't look at it so much as a reward and just simply work it into your points. Like bumbershoot, I have dessert most nights.
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The stuff you're eating all the time because it's safe... if those are foods you buy and aren't making, go back and check the nutrition info, make SURE it's all the same. Companies just love to change ingredients and components, so make sure there aren't any errors there!

I like switching things up; I think it keeps my body on its toes.

You're a runner; do you do races? If not, would that keep you excited, to have something to train for?

Treats...can you do smaller amounts on the nights when you want it? I have dessert most nights. Though recently "dessert" sometimes is 0% Fage plain yogurt with two+ servings of thawed-out cherry/berries blend from Trader Joe's. Not sure how my taste buds are calling that dessert, but I guess after 400+ days on WW your taste buds start to change, LOL.
I cook all my meals. We only eat out twice a week. I cook the same meals so I'm burned out I know. Last year I ran 3 - 5K races. This year I'm planning for 5 races so it keeps me needing to go to the gym. I run 20 mins and walk 40 mins so I spend 1 hr for 4 days a week. But some days I just don't want to stop. I want a fudge brownie with ice cream....
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Hi everyone! With my weigh-in being Monday, I got to skip a week. So, I veered a little off course Memorial Day weekend. I'm still down 2.4lbs, and I have 12 to go to get to what is considered a healthy weight for my height. Still haven't set an official goal, but I want to be somewhere in the middle of my weight range.
Ooh, so close! Exciting. I'm 5+ away from the top mark, but I know I can take off more and be even happier, so I'm going for that. My leader (and the other person I feel is my leader, though she's not on my meeting days) doesn't let people choose the top mark for Goal and then make Lifetime even while losing; she wants you to "own" that weight and know how to maintain. So I don't get to be "free" as quickly as I want to, because I know that for me, 5+ more isn't going to let me say "yep, I'm done".


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I cook all my meals. We only eat out twice a week. I cook the same meals so I'm burned out I know. Last year I ran 3 - 5K races. This year I'm planning for 5 races so it keeps me needing to go to the gym. I run 20 mins and walk 40 mins so I spend 1 hr for 4 days a week. But some days I just don't want to stop. I want a fudge brownie with ice cream....
Dang, you're doing it all so right! Making your meals, that's awesome! Oh wait, dining out twice a week? Well make sure you're estimating those correctly; I almost never go out anywhere that doesn't have a strong nutrition section on their website. I'm so boring now. Running races.

mmm, fudge brownie with ice cream...aw man until I read that I was good to go with my "dessert" mentioned above!

Did you mention that you're doing any weights? I forget if you did. Maybe you could start them? I started recently, and I was ready and willing to take a hit for a week or two weight-wise, thinking it would cause some water retention, but knowing that over time it's going to rev up my metabolism a bit. Seems to be working, and with just a few weeks of doing it (just twice a week) my arms, especially, are changing wonderfully. Might be an idea for you if you have the time and inclination.

If you're doing meetings, can you talk to your leader? Bring in your tracker, go over it with him/her, get some nice ideas?

I really feel for you. I've got DH here who hits roadblocks, and I know there are many people in my meetings who have had the same sort of thing happen. I hope that you can work it out sooner rather than later!


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Dang, you're doing it all so right! Making your meals, that's awesome! Oh wait, dining out twice a week? Well make sure you're estimating those correctly; I almost never go out anywhere that doesn't have a strong nutrition section on their website. I'm so boring now. Running races.

mmm, fudge brownie with ice cream...aw man until I read that I was good to go with my "dessert" mentioned above!

Did you mention that you're doing any weights? I forget if you did. Maybe you could start them? I started recently, and I was ready and willing to take a hit for a week or two weight-wise, thinking it would cause some water retention, but knowing that over time it's going to rev up my metabolism a bit. Seems to be working, and with just a few weeks of doing it (just twice a week) my arms, especially, are changing wonderfully. Might be an idea for you if you have the time and inclination.

If you're doing meetings, can you talk to your leader? Bring in your tracker, go over it with him/her, get some nice ideas?

I really feel for you. I've got DH here who hits roadblocks, and I know there are many people in my meetings who have had the same sort of thing happen. I hope that you can work it out sooner rather than later!


So sorry I post such novels, by the way.
Thank you for the feedback. I have WI tonight and I'll talk to her about it. It feels so much better to talk to someone about my roadblock.
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WI this morning...up 0.8. Sigh. I think it's my first week with a gain. (I have to check, there might have been one other.) Last week I was down 5.4 lbs, which I knew was freakish, AND my b'day was Sunday, so I was only going for "maintain". I was good though, finished the week with about 30 pts to spare. (I use APs for extras, try to keep my weeklies as much as possible, though I always use some.) The week before that I was down 1, so that's still a net loss of 4.6 over 3 weeks--still good, right?? And I've still earned my 25 lb "medal" I got last week, still down 25.6 net. Gotta focus on the big picture.
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WI tonight and I'm down 1.4 lbs!! I don't know how because we were out of town for three days. I have increased my time in the gym and cut back on the fruit. Thank you Bumbershoot for your words. I even stayed for the meeting tonight, first time in 4 months!
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Down 3 this week -- Don't applaud, that means I'm still UP 1.8 from before I went to the ocean for three whole days two weeks ago. Going in the right direction though!
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