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Old 06-07-2012, 05:58 AM   #91
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I'd NEVER have called the TV news, lol. The mother must be as ridiculous as her daughter...which explains why we have a teen crying on tv, "...but they ruined my dream because i just wanted to be Tinkerbell...I just Didn't want to take off the costume

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Old 06-07-2012, 06:24 AM   #92
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This girl at 15 may not be an adult but she is certainly not a child that is why there is a teen at the end of her age. If she was mature enough to take the time to make both her and her boyfriendes costumes, mature enough to take 2 hours to do her makeup and another hour on hair, then spray her body in glitter then she should be mature enough to handle the consequences. Like others have posted I get she was upset but at 15 to be saying I just wanted to be Tinkerbell and I didn't want to take of the costume is just silly.
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:36 AM   #93
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I agree with Disney.

And to call the media over this . There's no way I'd let my 11 year old act like that - never mind a teenager. If the family was looking for sympathy by going to the media, I think it backfired.

I hope disney doesn't give into the sulking and drama queen tears and offer free passes or something like that.
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For the posters that say that the no costumes policy should be printed on the ticket ... Disney has a lot of rules & policies pertaining to the parks. There is no way all of the rules could be printed on the tickets. Given that you rarely, if ever, see someone on the bus or show up at rope drop dressed in an "adult" costume(unless it's SWW or MNSSHP) it would seem that this is not a big problem and therefore not something that is urgently needed on the tickets.

I still don't think if you showed up at DHS on a normal day in full Tink regalia, or Snow White, or whomever, that you would likely be let in. The fact that this occurred during SWW probably played into things. Or as others have speculated, she managed to slip through during the crush at rope drop (maybe with something obscuring the costume, etc). This is the problem, not that she got away with it and then Disney enforced their policy when she was caught. People often get away with things for a while that are against the rules (anywhere) before someone catches on, or a staff member who can be bothered to have the confrontation discovers the problem. I still don't think that makes this story newsworthy or justifies this girl's/family's reaction. As I mentioned in a previous post, it was all about her ... she just couldn't understand why her dream to be Tinkerbelle wasn't more important than Disney maintaining the integrity and magic of their characters for their younger guests.

I don't think this was just a goofy kid putting on a Tink dress. She went to great lengths to make sure she was as "authentic" as possible. You don't get to just show up and assume the role of a character. She set herself up.

ETA (because I know someone will say it ...) I'm not implying that she went around pretending to other guests that she was *the* Tink, but based on her statement "I just wanted to be Tinkerbelle" ... and the extreme effort with the look of the hair, makeup & costume ...
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I've already made my position clear (Disney was right), but I do remember reading (perhaps 10 years ago) a pamphlet with Timon and Pumba about rules in the parks and it did mention something about no adults in costume. Bet very few people actually read 'em.
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I think her body plays into the fact that many are calling her names.. If she was a smaller framed, thin child.. she would be allowed to cry since she would look like a "kid" but since her body appears to look like a young woman's, she has to act like a young woman... amazing what the psyche does to one....
Oh come on. Her body type has nothing to do with it. 15 is not a child. If you truly believe so, then I'm sorry, you're just adding to the problem. I don't want to upset the balance of your world by letting you know all the activities these 15 year-old "children" often engage in, but let me just assure you they're very "adult" behaviors.

And the issue with WHY she was let into DHS and not AK...mistakes happen. If she truly went to Animal Kingdom after DHS, it likely means she hit DHS first. Have YOU been to DHS at rope drop? It's absolute insanity. Their costumes might not have gotten noticed in the fray. It's also entirely likely that they didn't wear 100% of their costumes in the morning. If they rode RnR or ToT, for example, I don't think her bf would be able to keep his hat on, and she certainly wouldn't ride in those wings. Which means they would have blended in even better to the morning running of the bulls.

There's no huge conspiracy here as to why she slipped through one park and not another. The mother isn't owed some sort of grand investigation into why this happened; it happened, but it wasn't supposed to, and Disney apologized to this girl for her violation of their rules, and compensated her. The issue should have died right then and there at the park gates. Instead she chose to present her minor issue as a news-worthy calamity, and the problem when you seek attention like that is that when you get it, it's usually not what you wanted.
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Oh come on. Her body type has nothing to do with it. 15 is not a child. If you truly believe so, then I'm sorry, you're just adding to the problem. I don't want to upset the balance of your world by letting you know all the activities these 15 year-old "children" often engage in, but let me just assure you they're very "adult" behaviors.

And the issue with WHY she was let into DHS and not AK...mistakes happen. If she truly went to Animal Kingdom after DHS, it likely means she hit DHS first. Have YOU been to DHS at rope drop? It's absolute insanity. Their costumes might not have gotten noticed in the fray. It's also entirely likely that they didn't wear 100% of their costumes in the morning. If they rode RnR or ToT, for example, I don't think her bf would be able to keep his hat on, and she certainly wouldn't ride in those wings. Which means they would have blended in even better to the morning running of the bulls.

There's no huge conspiracy here as to why she slipped through one park and not another. The mother isn't owed some sort of grand investigation into why this happened; it happened, but it wasn't supposed to, and Disney apologized to this girl for her violation of their rules, and compensated her. The issue should have died right then and there at the park gates. Instead she chose to present her minor issue as a news-worthy calamity, and the problem when you seek attention like that is that when you get it, it's usually not what you wanted.
Even younger kids sometimes engage into adult activities, you know, hormones, but it does not mean their brains are mature, only bodies.
As for having incomplete costume or being covered to get to DHS, possible but not intentional if this was a case. Otherwise why not to do the same thing at AK.
However, I heard about cases when people were denied entry and when people were stopped in a park and asked to cover or chnge, she was not.
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It's hilarious to me that the teen is making a case out of this and going to news outlets. Does she not understand that Tinker Bell and Peter Pan are people's work uniforms? I think I'll make my own Hooters outfit and show up there and just walk around the floor. They'll tell me I'm ruining guests' dreams but they're ruining my dream cause I just want to be a Hooters girl!

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I'm a bit confused what people are arguing about....

Her and her family were in the wrong....Disney was kind enough to comp her some cloths and they decide to make a big deal about (even saw the story on my evening local news). The body type and skimpiness of the outfit do not matter....she is of "adult size" and should not be wearing a costume to the park. Her reaction or overreaction would not have mattered if the family did not contact the media...in the end I'm sure a lot of people have had their dreams ruined by pesky rules "what do you mean I need a medical degree to become a doctor"...."so you're saying that I need to be signed or try out to play QB this Sunday?"
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Do we know for certain that this girl and/or her family went to the local TV station with the story? I've yet to read/hear/watch anything confirming that.
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Do we know for certain that this girl and/or her family went to the local TV station with the story? I've yet to read/hear/watch anything confirming that.
I have yet to read that either, but as a 15 year old, she would need to have consent to be interviewed, so the parents and teen are responsible for giving the story to the media even if it was not them who made first contact.
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I have yet to read that either, but as a 15 year old, she would need to have consent to be interviewed, so the parents and teen are responsible for giving the story to the media even if it was not them who made first contact.
This is true.

But running to the media and allowing the media to cover it aren't the same thing. Running to the media implies attention whoring. The media coming to the family implies ratings grabbing. The local TV station who covered it first could've heard about it through other avenues, like social media. And on a slow news day with a gossipy story at their fingertips, many stations would pounce on such a story.

Some might even consider it a predatory move. Might.

Obviously the girl has the emotional range of a child, hence the crying and being so upset over this all. But it makes for great television and forum fodder!

All I know is I've been a journalist for nearly a decade, and I've seen this too many times over. Some do it more than others, some news outlets don't do it at all. But everyone has a bottom line to consider.
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This is true.

But running to the media and allowing the media to cover it aren't the same thing. Running to the media implies attention whoring. The media coming to the family implies ratings grabbing. The local TV station who covered it first could've heard about it through other avenues, like social media. And on a slow news day with a gossipy story at their fingertips, many stations would pounce on such a story.

Some might even consider it a predatory move. Might.

Obviously the girl has the emotional range of a child, hence the crying and being so upset over this all. But it makes for great television and forum fodder!

All I know is I've been a journalist for nearly a decade, and I've seen this too many times over. Some do it more than others, some news outlets don't do it at all. But everyone has a bottom line to consider.
Well Disney wouldn't have contacted them, probably not too many others would have witnessed the incident and those who did likely wouldn't call the media. Social media is a possibility, but she was obviously still very upset, like it had recently happened, not like several days had passed & the media just managed to track her down after catching wind of the story. And if they had, I'm not sure they would have considered it much of a story (and bothered to track her down ... I'm a freelance journalist myself, no story here IMHO)
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Well Disney wouldn't have contacted them, probably not too many others would have witnessed the incident and those who did likely wouldn't call the media. Social media is a possibility, but she was obviously still very upset, like it had recently happened, not like several days had passed & the media just managed to track her down after catching wind of the story. And if they had, I'm not sure they would have considered it much of a story (and bothered to track her down ... I'm a freelance journalist myself, no story here IMHO)
It's a non-story to me, too, but not everyone thinks as clearly as us
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My guess is the family, or the boyfriend or someone who knows her and was ticked at what Disney did contacted the media. The producer thought "hmmm, let's see what Disney did to this kid ..." Once they had the interview they decided to keep it for the "entertainment" value, as terrible as it sounds (and which I'm not condoning!), but the site I watched it on played it under their "odd news" feature.
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