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Old 05-30-2012, 07:36 AM   #16
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On PCC 1.0 one of our tablemates went to Atlantis and his report was actually very good. Good enough that we seriously considered it the next 4-5 times we stopped there. But not quite good enough for us to actually do it.

Does that help? Didn't think so.
And your other PCC 1.0 table mate went to Atlantis during PCC 2.0.

It was lovely. I don't gamble as a rule so that wasn't the draw. It was the design and architecture--the colors, the shapes, the stories.

Getting back to the ship was a riot in and of itself and well worth the trip to Atlantis in its own rite. The taxi-van driver sped around the city dodging parked cars and pedestrians, whizzing along alleys. I was lucky enough to be in the front seat next to her and asked her tons of questions about her town. She was proud of Nassau and I could tell she felt honored to show it off.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:26 PM   #17
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Chris, I hadn't realized just how bad gays are oppressed in Jamaica. I thought I had read some similar comments about Nassau. Knowing that you do get off the ship there I'm guessing its not as bad. Can you enlighten me about that?
Nassau and the Bahamas aren't nearly as bad as Jamaica in terms of anti-gay crimes. Being gay was decriminalized there in 1991 and gays can even serve openly in the Bahamas military. Not to say that the Bahamas is fantastic (crimes against gay victims largely go uninvestigated, for example), but they're not nearly as bad as Jamaica.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:56 PM   #18
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While their stance on homosexuality is enough of a reason not to go there, I just wanted to state that Jamaica does NOT have the world's highest murder rate. The city that I live in(New Orleans) has a higher murder rate than Jamaica. Jamaica's is not good, just not the worst.
Note: As I work with statistics for a living, please forgive me while I geek out here a little...

It is true that Jamaica no longer has the world's highest murder rate. The Time magazine article I referred to (when that statement was true) was from 2006. Based on 2010 data from the UN, Jamaica is currently 3rd in the world behind Honduras and El Salvador.

Both Jamaica and New Orleans had murder rates of about 52 per capita (per 100,000 people) in 2010. But, the population of New Orleans is about 350,000, while the population of Jamiaca is nearly 8 times greater at about 2,700,000. Doing some back-of-the-envelope math, that means that there were about 182 murders in New Orleans in 2010, but there were about 1404 murders in Jamaica in 2010. So, even though the per-capita rate is similar between New Orleans and Jamaica, the body count is much greater in Jamaica.

FYI, the murder rate for the Bahamas in 2010 was about half that of Jamaica, with a population very close to the population of New Orleans. So, you can pretty much say that you're twice as likely to die in New Orleans as in Nassau.

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Old 05-30-2012, 04:25 PM   #19
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Note: As I work with statistics for a living, please forgive me while I geek out here a little...

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FYI, the murder rate for the Bahamas in 2010 was about half that of Jamaica, with a population very close to the population of New Orleans. So, you can pretty much say that you're twice as likely to die in New Orleans as in Nassau.

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Oh great. Now you tell me. Here I am about to eagerly board a plane to New Orleans to spend a long weekend there, but I won't get off the ship in Nassau.
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On PCC 1.0 one of our tablemates went to Atlantis and his report was actually very good. Good enough that we seriously considered it the next 4-5 times we stopped there. But not quite good enough for us to actually do it.

Does that help? Didn't think so.
I was the tablemate from PCC 1.0 who went to Atlantis. It is a breathtakingly beautiful resort. I would put it up there with the Venetian or Bellagio in Las Vegas in terms of class and beauty. Probably a bit higher even. Yes, it is pricy, and I don't think I would pay the big bucks to stay there, but the aqauriums are amazing (and very Disney-esque in terms of theming) and the public areas of the complex are very beautiful.

I took the cheapest DCL-offered excursion to Atlantis, which gets you a bus ride over and back and a tour of the aquarium. More expensive than taking a cab, but worth it to me to not have to haggle with a local cab driver or worry about the ship leaving without you. After the tour, you have the afternoon to spend as much time as you want milling around the resort or gambling (I don't gamble, so I had some good (but overpriced) conch chowder for lunch there instead.)
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Just went on the Discover Atlantis tour. I don't think we would do it again--we felt that the amount of walking required on the tour was far greater than the tour description led us to believe. In the extreme heat and humidity, it can become quite unpleasant.

As for Nassau in general--recently there has been a lot of investment in improving the infrastructure (we drove around with a friend who lives outside Nassau and were very impressed), so the island is really starting to boom. We are hopeful that the crime rate should go down, as a result of more jobs becoming available.
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I'm looking forward to my first stop in Jamaica next month on another cruise line.

I have a hard time seeing Disney going here unless it's an itinerary for the Magic (unless contracts are coming due with St. Thomas, St. Maarten, or more likely Cozumel or Grand Cayman on the western swing).

But, it's never a bad thing to take the meetings and see what a port may throw at you.
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:42 PM   #23
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my assistant just went to Jamaica for her honeymoon and stayed at an all-inclusive resort...when they wanted to go play tennis they had to be escorted by two armed guards across the street to the resorts tennis facility. The whole hotel was surrounded by walls that had barbed wire on it. Every single person they talked to outside of the hotel treated them like garbage and made no point in hiding that they hated Americans...this doesn't exactly sound like the place DCL should be heading.....
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:10 PM   #25
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I'm looking forward to my first stop in Jamaica next month on another cruise line.

I have a hard time seeing Disney going here unless it's an itinerary for the Magic (unless contracts are coming due with St. Thomas, St. Maarten, or more likely Cozumel or Grand Cayman on the western swing).

But, it's never a bad thing to take the meetings and see what a port may throw at you.
We had a great time in Jamaica!

It was a beautiful island and the people quite friendly. Granted, we were in Montego Bay where most of the cruising happens in Falmouth or Ocho Rios, but our experience was quite plesant and we'd be happy to go back again..

I'm intrigued to see DCL offer something new.
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