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Old 05-24-2012, 08:39 PM   #196
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You are absolutely right, the Stepsisters and Lady Tremaine are absolutely the reason to go to 1900 Park Fare for dinner. They are always so much fun.
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I'm looking forward to the dining reviews. There are a lot of places I've never eaten, but would love to try... this being one of them. I've never really felt like it would be something my family would really get into, but the stepsisters sound like a lot of fun and it might be worth it just for the entertainment.



I can't see myself staying at GF, just because the lobby feels a little bit stuffy to me. Yes, it is beautiful, but just doesn't feel all that welcoming to me. I would almost be tempted to lounge around the lobby in my pajamas just to make everyone else uncomfortable.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback! I think that we hit 17 TS restaurants, many that we'd never been to.

1900 Park Fare is lots of fun, the entertainment value definitely makes it worth it. It's not the best food, but they put on a great show!

I'd be tempted to do the same! I can just picture myself in a paint-splattered Cubs tshirt and 10 year old shorts sitting next to the piano player requesting "Piano Man"

Maybe I'm just not a super-deluxe gal, it doesn't seem too welcoming to me either.


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That was a really great review! I agree that it IS all about the Tremaine's. They were so great when we went there. One of the best character interactions ever!

I found the food good, with a few mehs.


Too bad your MIL chose to short tip, 3 days can't be that long.........can it
Thank you!!! I'm so glad for the feedback, I'll keep at the reviews. The Tremaines are tons of fun, I can't wait until Maddie is older and they can pick on her too!

Maybe we were just there on an off day last trip, because the food was much better. It wasn't bad at all, and in fact the food was better than several character buffets (I may catch some flames when I get to CP )

That's what I thought, it's only 3 days. Probably why I didn't confront her on anything. I really did want her to enjoy her first visit with Maddie, plus I hate confrontation I'm not looking forward to going with her again, but as time goes by I get less irritated.

P.S. I bought Maddie a Merida doll today. Her dress is much prettier than the black robe that they show in many of the previews, but I still think she's for the older or less girly kids.

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Another great update! We love 1900 Park Fare...but mainly for the characters too!

Ah, MIL's...I totally feel for you....when we go to Disney we end up paying for them...meals, using our DVC points etc bc they don't have the money....yet when DH's siblings go to Disney with his parents, his parents pay for them and their families????
Thank you!! Aren't the characters fun? I can't get over how good the CMs who portray the Tremaines are. They are definitely some of the best face characters we've encountered.

MiL. She's so confusing. With us, she acted all judgy about me having so many things planned, but she's going with my BiL's family this month and they have NOTHING planned. Seriously, I got a FB message from my SiL's mom this week asking how many days their trip should be, if they need ressies for princess meals, if they could see all the princesses in one day, etc. And they're planning to go in JUNE!!!!! And MiL acts like this is normal, and perfect! She's so crazy. Wait until you see what my tip stiffing MiL spent all of her time doing, and what she spent her money on.

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DD4 is also a Princess fanatic. This will be her first EVER trip to Disney. Could you please ask Maddie what tips she would have for her from one preschooler to another?
Well, I asked Maddie and she said that it's important to go to the BBB and meet princesses, and get autographs. Not sure how helpful that is!

From a mom, I'd agree about the BBB. I know that it's really expensive, but if it's in your budget (and you can bring your own dress and shoes to keep costs down) it's 100% worth it. Especially the first trip. Maddie was so wide-eyed,and every new experience was the best one ever.

Beyond the BBB, princess meals were a good way to meet the ladies, but we still ended up doing all the character meets outside of the meals. She certainly didn't feel that meeting Cindrella, Belle, etc just once was enough. So, while Maddie still says that CRT is her favorite restaurant (it is pretty special to be dining in the castle), I wouldn't say that the princess meals are a must if you plan to to the Meet and Greets anyway.

Autograph books make a great keepsake-especially if you get one of the ones that has a spot for photos. I know that a lot of people make their own with a page for each character that they wanted to meet, but Maddie wanted each person's autograph each time, so that wouldn't have worked for us. We used 3 books on her first (5 day) trip and 4 on her second (7 day)

Times Guides will be your best friend. It's the only way to have any sort of a game plan for meeting as many characters as possible. We did utilize the FP for the Theatre M&G, and that was nice because the lines can get so long. I don't recall exactly what your ticker says, but if you're there after FL expansion is done things may be way different.

If you have time in your trip, plan extra MK days or you'll never get on any rides!

There are some great M&Gs in Epcot as well. Belle with Beast, Snow White (only place we've seen her outside of meals and randomly in Town Square), Jasmine in Morocco (I like her MK meet better though), Aurora in France, Alice and Mary Poppins in UK, and the only place you'll find Mulan is in China, so make that a priority.

Please ask if you have any questions, we've met them all several different times, done both BBBs, done princess meals for Breakfast and Dinner at both Akershus and CRT, and even found Pocahontas. I'd love to be of help to you, the people on the DIS helped me a ton in planning her 1st trip.

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I'm loving your trip report and your daughter is just adorable.

I have a suggestion as to the pictures and your MIL taking part. When I fo to Disney with my son and DIL I always let them have a picture by themselves and one with me included. They might do that at at Park Faire if you asked. I do that with all the photopass pictures as well. Just an idea.
Thank you so much!!! and Welcome!!

I think that's a great idea for the pictures. I would have been happy to do just that, but MiL didn't seem to think of it and I didn't want to hurt her feelings by suggesting it. I definitely dropped the ball by not speaking up.

I'll bet they'd do it at the restaurants, we should have asked.
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You are absolutely right, the Stepsisters and Lady Tremaine are absolutely the reason to go to 1900 Park Fare for dinner. They are always so much fun.
Aren't they great? I would go without DD because I think they're that fun.
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Anyway, Lady T looked long and hard at Bryan and said to Maddie, “Your father is covered in sparkle. How strange.” And then she pivoted on her heel and walked off.
That moment is the precise reason that everyone should try 1900 PF for dinner in their lifetime. The Tremaines are so freaking funny, I am laughing just thinking about them. Lady T is just so no-nonsense and says the funniest one liners but keeps her straight face, and Anastasia & Drizella are so over the top with their cattiness toward Cinderella and their flirtation with the boys/men in the room. I LOVE 1900 PF and I would eat there again and again.

The one thing that I noticed this year that has changed is the dessert - last year we were served a big sundae to share and it was really great, this year we had just the standard buffet desserts (and btw I totally agree w/ you on the chocolate crusted key lime pie..ick).

I say, also - yes to detailed dining reports! I love the extra detail, I find it really helpful to read others' thoughts on the different TS restaurants (especially since we have similarly aged daughters). It gives me ideas for next time!
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P.S. I bought Maddie a Merida doll today. Her dress is much prettier than the black robe that they show in many of the previews, but I still think she's for the older or less girly kids.

Thank you!! Aren't the characters fun? I can't get over how good the CMs who portray the Tremaines are. They are definitely some of the best face characters we've encountered.

MiL. She's so confusing. With us, she acted all judgy about me having so many things planned, but she's going with my BiL's family this month and they have NOTHING planned. Seriously, I got a FB message from my SiL's mom this week asking how many days their trip should be, if they need ressies for princess meals, if they could see all the princesses in one day, etc. And they're planning to go in JUNE!!!!! And MiL acts like this is normal, and perfect! She's so crazy. Wait until you see what my tip stiffing MiL spent all of her time doing, and what she spent her money on.
I gave dd the Merida doll today too! She keeps calling her "Brave" instead of Merida!! LOL

Sounds like we could write a book on our MIL's!! Mine does the same thing...this year when they took DH's brother, his wife and 2 sons to Disney. They went Easter Break week. They paid for 2 hotel rooms for 2 nights, full price bc of course they didn't book ahead of time and get an AP or discounted room. Meals for 3 days and all of their park tickets!!

Of course the night before they go into the parks, they have no plans or reservations and call me for advice and tips!!
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Great update. I can't believe the tip your MIL gave you toward the dinner? Trust me, I won't be taking any MIL's on my trips.

We've never done 1900 Park Fare. My best friend and adopted sis here from the DIS, has kept me away from there as she hated it when she went (and she is often referred to as the Queen of Food Porn on the DIS. But you make it sound like it's not too bad.

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That moment is the precise reason that everyone should try 1900 PF for dinner in their lifetime. The Tremaines are so freaking funny, I am laughing just thinking about them. Lady T is just so no-nonsense and says the funniest one liners but keeps her straight face, and Anastasia & Drizella are so over the top with their cattiness toward Cinderella and their flirtation with the boys/men in the room. I LOVE 1900 PF and I would eat there again and again.

The one thing that I noticed this year that has changed is the dessert - last year we were served a big sundae to share and it was really great, this year we had just the standard buffet desserts (and btw I totally agree w/ you on the chocolate crusted key lime pie..ick).

I say, also - yes to detailed dining reports! I love the extra detail, I find it really helpful to read others' thoughts on the different TS restaurants (especially since we have similarly aged daughters). It gives me ideas for next time!
Aren't they great?!? Even Maddie thought it was funny.

The desserts are just not good. However, I think that the only buffet with good desserts is Cape May. I am an Oreo BonBon obsessive. I love key lime pie,and that was just bad--in Florida.

Thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely keep doing them.

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I gave dd the Merida doll today too! She keeps calling her "Brave" instead of Merida!! LOL

Sounds like we could write a book on our MIL's!! Mine does the same thing...this year when they took DH's brother, his wife and 2 sons to Disney. They went Easter Break week. They paid for 2 hotel rooms for 2 nights, full price bc of course they didn't book ahead of time and get an AP or discounted room. Meals for 3 days and all of their park tickets!!

Of course the night before they go into the parks, they have no plans or reservations and call me for advice and tips!!
Maddie is calling her "Brave" too! She keeps asking "What's her name again Mommy?"

GRRRRR. I would love to go on a trip that's been completely planned for me (well, not really, I'm too much of a control freak-but you know what I mean), and my MiL acted like a toddler. Yet, she's more than happy to go along with them with nothing planned? Nothing planned for my 3 year old niece. The woman has been going to Disney for almost 30 years!!! She knows better!

My fave person in DH's family advised me to say I'm too busy to help. They are most likely not going to have a good trip even if I step in (no time! they want to go in June! wouldn't you have at least made a hotel reservation? even if you were going somewhere less popular? they're nuts!). She's exactly right, and my SiL is a lot like my MiL so guess who would get blamed if when they have a terrible time despite my best efforts. She's so right, I just can't help them.

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Great update. I can't believe the tip your MIL gave you toward the dinner? Trust me, I won't be taking any MIL's on my trips.

We've never done 1900 Park Fare. My best friend and adopted sis here from the DIS, has kept me away from there as she hated it when she went (and she is often referred to as the Queen of Food Porn on the DIS. But you make it sound like it's not too bad.

Can't wait to hear if you finally get on some rides.
Thanks! That tip still confuses me. Even though we used DDP, the price is still on the bill. Not sure what message she was hoping to send. It sure didn't say "Thanks for letting me enjoy WDW with my oldest grandchild"

You know, we really, really hated the food at Park Fare last trip. DH described it as "sucky" The only reason we gave it another try is the Tremaines. They are that entertaining. Plus, we were trying to do one character meal each day, and 1900 worked out for this day.

The food was much better than last time, but still not WOW. It was better than most buffet food though. It really is way more about the entertainment there, and for us that's good enough (for one meal at least!)
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I had some problems commenting last night too, it's irritating when that happens.
Seems like if I'm on here late at night, I always start having problems after midnight.

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The meal was lots of fun! Those ladies are hilarious. Reed might not love it, but the stepsisters make a HUGE fuss over "single men" so maybe when he's older and you want to embarrass him?
That would embarrass him now. May be worth it.

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Seriously! MiL travels sooo much, she understood. I still don't get why she did that, she's usually really generous. I am still annoyed by it. I would not suggest that you invite my MiL along on your next trip. It was a relief when her portion of the trip was over. It's just easier with the 3 of us, you know?
Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Back in 2004 (a few years before we had Reid), we went to Disney with my family. It was Ed & myself, my sister, her DH & their 1st born son (he was 3 then), my mom & stepdad and my uncle & aunt. NEVER AGAIN! My mom doesn't like Disney. My sister likes Disney but doesn't like the way I do Disney. In other words, she doesn't like that I plan, make ADRs, etc. Fine - since it was her only child's 1st trip, I let her control it. We had a grand total of 2 ADRs for the entire week we were there. I was so sick of counter service meals. By the end of trip, her & I were at each other's throats. Ed & I decided we would never do another family vacation with any family members again. It will ALWAYS be just the 3 of us in Disney. And that is fine with me.
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I hope you had no problems going from 3 to 4 people anywhere. Hopefully, your MIL does not get in all of your pictures either. You are making me want to try 1900 Park Fare for dinner. Now, I just need to convince Crap. Lady Tremaine’s comments had me laughing so hard. It seems fun. Thank goodness the food was better than on your last trip. Tipping four dollars on a $40 bill would have embarrassed me too. Sorry she did that to you. Some of my family members do that, so I do not like sharing a bill with them. I either end up over tipping to make up the difference (which is so not fair) or demand completely separate checks, so the server knows we are not to blame for the lousy tip.
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My fave person in DH's family advised me to say I'm too busy to help. They are most likely not going to have a good trip even if I step in (no time! they want to go in June! wouldn't you have at least made a hotel reservation? even if you were going somewhere less popular? they're nuts!). She's exactly right, and my SiL is a lot like my MiL so guess who would get blamed if when they have a terrible time despite my best efforts. She's so right, I just can't help them.



You absolutely cannot help them. You will get all the blame and have an even tougher time being a family. Of course, by not helping you'll probably get blamed to. Stay strong! No help for the lazy!
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Well, I asked Maddie and she said that it's important to go to the BBB and meet princesses, and get autographs. Not sure how helpful that is!
Very cute! Tell Maddie thanks for the tips. Not helpful to me but I'm sure Kaitlin will think so.

And mom to mom, thanks for your tips. We have an ADR at Akershus as I didn't know how rushed you are during the m&g's. You have to eat anyway right? It will be very interesting to see how she responds once we get there. We have a low key evening planned at MK first, no plans except Wishes, just and let's see what we find kind of night. The next day is the full MK day with a bit more planning involved but lremembering to let our "preschooler be our guide" and then one last day if she want's ending with MNSSHP. (She is a Halloween fanatic. Should be fun.
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I hope you had no problems going from 3 to 4 people anywhere. Hopefully, your MIL does not get in all of your pictures either. You are making me want to try 1900 Park Fare for dinner. Now, I just need to convince Crap. Lady Tremaine’s comments had me laughing so hard. It seems fun. Thank goodness the food was better than on your last trip. Tipping four dollars on a $40 bill would have embarrassed me too. Sorry she did that to you. Some of my family members do that, so I do not like sharing a bill with them. I either end up over tipping to make up the difference (which is so not fair) or demand completely separate checks, so the server knows we are not to blame for the lousy tip.
We really didn't have any problems changing to 4. At 'Ohana the CM kinda blinked at me for a minute before saying it was fin, but she was a little grouchy anyway I don't blame her, there was a line of people trying to get in without reservations.

1900 Park Fare is FUN! The Tremaines are hilarious, and it really is sort of grown up humor, the kids don't catch half of it. Maybe Crap would appreciate that?

Oh the tip. I can't for the life of me figure out why she did that. She really is a good tipper in real life! I have no excuses for her. It was embarrassing. I try not to split a bill with people like that either. Going out to eat with my SiL takes the cake though. She is SO RUDE to servers that I usually want to crawl under the table. I always tip extra to make up for her attitude. And that's the SiL that we'll be going to WDW with in 3 years and who hasn't even made a hotel ressie (much less anything else) for her family's June 2012 trip to WDW.

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My fave person in DH's family advised me to say I'm too busy to help. They are most likely not going to have a good trip even if I step in (no time! they want to go in June! wouldn't you have at least made a hotel reservation? even if you were going somewhere less popular? they're nuts!). She's exactly right, and my SiL is a lot like my MiL so guess who would get blamed if when they have a terrible time despite my best efforts. She's so right, I just can't help them.



You absolutely cannot help them. You will get all the blame and have an even tougher time being a family. Of course, by not helping you'll probably get blamed to. Stay strong! No help for the lazy!
Thanks for the support! It hurts me to know that my little niece's first trip will be so very unmagical, but there's nothing I can do. I know that for months after the trip I'd hear nothing but snarky comments about what went wrong and how it's my fault. At least I know that my niece's next trip (the whole family! ) will be great, because I'll start planning that one a year out.

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Very cute! Tell Maddie thanks for the tips. Not helpful to me but I'm sure Kaitlin will think so.

And mom to mom, thanks for your tips. We have an ADR at Akershus as I didn't know how rushed you are during the m&g's. You have to eat anyway right? It will be very interesting to see how she responds once we get there. We have a low key evening planned at MK first, no plans except Wishes, just and let's see what we find kind of night. The next day is the full MK day with a bit more planning involved but lremembering to let our "preschooler be our guide" and then one last day if she want's ending with MNSSHP. (She is a Halloween fanatic. Should be fun.
I'll pass it along to Mads. We've done Akershus for breakfast and dinner. It's a nice place to meet the ladies. In my experience, the characters all take their cues from the kids. If the kids are chatty and into the M&G, they give them as much time as the need. If the kid seems nervous or isn't really talking much, they move pretty quickly.

It think that your plan sounds great. Are you taking any princess dresses with you? Maddie loved wearing hers to the parks since they're usually for dress up only. It is pretty special to watch your little girl be treated like royalty.
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It think that your plan sounds great. Are you taking any princess dresses with you? Maddie loved wearing hers to the parks since they're usually for dress up only. It is pretty special to watch your little girl be treated like royalty.
Yes, I am bringing one for the ADR at Akershus, we are going in September though I think it will be just too hot. We'll see. We are doing BBB right before the MNSSHP and I am splurging on a new dress for that. (It will also be her Halloween Costume when we get home.) She's just at the stage where she is starting to outgrow them so, we'll see. I may have find something for our full day at MK. I am SUCH a tomboy that sometimes I forget to let the "princess" out for DD. I buy jeans, she wants dresses. Dresses for me are just so impractical. I have to thank you again too as because of your last TR I upgraded to park hoppers. I don't usually believe in them for WDW but with the hours shortened it helps us take better advantage of the EMH and be more flexible.
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Yes, I am bringing one for the ADR at Akershus, we are going in September though I think it will be just too hot. We'll see. We are doing BBB right before the MNSSHP and I am splurging on a new dress for that. (It will also be her Halloween Costume when we get home.) She's just at the stage where she is starting to outgrow them so, we'll see. I may have find something for our full day at MK. I am SUCH a tomboy that sometimes I forget to let the "princess" out for DD. I buy jeans, she wants dresses. Dresses for me are just so impractical. I have to thank you again too as because of your last TR I upgraded to park hoppers. I don't usually believe in them for WDW but with the hours shortened it helps us take better advantage of the EMH and be more flexible.
Too funny, I have to force Maddie to wear jeans. I'm not a dress girl myself, but she loves them. I only brought one dress for Maddie on our first trip, and I should have let her bring more. If you have them and have room in your luggage, I'd bring another one. Though, Maddie would have been fine wearing the same dress every day.

I love park hoppers. To me, the flexibility can't be beat. That way, if you need to get to Epcot to find Mulan, or need to get to DHS to find Buzz--you can!
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We left 1900 Park Fare and stopped for a minute to admire my favorite Mary Poppins topiary. We were on our way upstairs to the monorail platform when MiL stopped us. She was adamant that the boat was going to be faster than the monorail and insisted that we go back to MK that way. WHAT? I know that the monorail is faster, but again didn’t want to fight. I was already annoyed at the tip debacle and didn’t want to blow the monorail discussion out of proportion. DH didn’t either, so we begrudgingly headed to the boat dock. We waited for 20 minutes or so for the boat, and it had gotten cold. I pulled out my hoodie/stroller rain cover which was still damp from our trek to Aruba 51. It wasn’t ideal, but it was better than being cold.

Finally we boarded the boat and made the slow sail toward the Magic Kingdom. Once inside, we encouraged Maddie to choose some rides to go on. She announced that our first ride of the trip would be…




It’s A Small World. Bryan’s least favorite ride- but better than no rides at all! Once on our boat, Maddie became my Director of Photography, and as a result, I am now the proud owner of 50 or so photographs of the various rooms of IASW. I'm sure that you'd love to see them all, but I'll only share a few







Bryan enjoying the ride
















Seven is a few right?


After IASW, Maddie was very happy and wanted to ride some more rides. DH and I saw our opportunity and pounced. We were going in the Haunted Mansion. Maddie and I had several long talks leading up to the trip about various “scary rides” such as HM, PoTC, Splash, and Snow White. I’d explained that everything is pretend and that on HM the ghosts are really pretty funny. She didn’t buy it.

As we approached the queue she started to panic a little, so we started making deals. If she rode HM we’d buy her the Perry the Platypus stuffed animal she’d been eyeing (we were going to buy it anyway, we’d gotten her an animal each day of the last trip and assumed we’d be stuck doing the same this time around) and we sweetened the deal with the promise of a balloon as well. And just like that the deal was done, it was time to ride!



We went through the interactive side of the queue which was a first for all of us and Maddie absolutely loved it. She would have happily played there all night and skipped the ride altogether, but we’re urged her along.

















Bryan really liked the interactive stuff too!





Finally, it couldn’t be put it off any longer. There was no wait once we were done playing so we entered the stretching room right away. She did okay for the first few minutes, but once our fellow ride goers began to scream, she needed to be held.


And the last picture I took of Haunted Mansion. I had a 5 year old in my arms for the rest of the ride.




We boarded our Doombuggies. Maddie was with me and DH rode with MiL. For 99% of the ride, DD’s head was buried in my chest, but she didn’t say much. At the end, we didn’t get a head switch, just a hitchhiker atop our buggy, but DH’s buggy did get the switch so at least I got to see it!

Safely outside, Maddie had this to say “I liked it a little. Can I have my balloon now?”

At least she hadn’t vowed never to ride again!


We had to stop for a picture in the gallows!




We knew that we owed her one, so we led Maddie into the newly opened Storybook Circus area to get our Barnstormer on. It was love at first sight for her. She danced and giggled her way through the 20 minute line, and soon enough it was our turn.

























DH and MiL rode together again, and found it somewhat difficult for 2 adults to comfortably fit into the ride vehicle, but Maddie and I were fine. Maddie loved all 30 seconds of the ride. She immediately wanted to do it again, but it was almost time for the parade.

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