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Old 05-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #211
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The reason the thread is flush with new first time posters is because it shows up on a google search of the buzz words of the controversy...IMO of course.

I suggest someone close the door...even my jazz hands can't stop this train wreck.
Jennasis I completely agree. Please, for the love of Pete, close the door.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:58 PM   #212
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Once again....Loki is NOT human and neither is Thor. They are each different creatures for lack of a better term. The comment can be taken in many ways but the use of it should be looked at in context.

I do agree that the comment wasn't necessary but I also believe that some people are taking a very narrow view and those people are on both sides of the discussion.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:59 PM   #213
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Jennasis I completely agree. Please, for the love of Pete, close the door.
I'm exiting the door. So many unknown people keep appearing and I'm afraid that it will soon become a mob scene.

Ugh.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:10 PM   #214
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You miss the point that the joke is not funny in that it degrades children because they are adopted. Why are they any less of a person? How can anyone laugh at something like that? Not grasping at straws here, just trying to point out crass and insensitive movie comments.
Actually, you missed the point as demonstrated by you taking a short line of dialogue out of context and twisting it into something it wasn't. You may want to review the history of the characters in both comic book lore and Norse mythology, then you might understand it better.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:24 AM   #215
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Stop being so over sensitive!!!!

As someone who was adopted and is also a redhead I find this crap ridiculous! I don't know how many times I've cracked up at "I'll beat you like a redheaded step child!" I've also said "Thankfully I'm adopted" when my sisters had done something I wanted no connection to lol Stop being such oversensitive crybabies and get a life! Suck it up Buttercup and grow a pair!
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:04 AM   #216
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Oh, I believe there hasn't been a single, solitary point missed here.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:12 AM   #217
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Actually, you missed the point as demonstrated by you taking a short line of dialogue out of context and twisting it into something it wasn't. You may want to review the history of the characters in both comic book lore and Norse mythology, then you might understand it better.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:21 AM   #218
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You know, when I get tired of a thread, I just stop going to it. That is a possibility for those who think it should be closed.

Like I've said before - everybody is different. Some will be hurt and some won't. Adoption comes in many forms. I have a child who was adopted at an early age. He's a little more sensitive for lots of reasons.

Those of you who have decided that someone shouldn't be offended - that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. We have a family member who likes to decide when someone's allowed to be upset - it doesn't really change anything. When we were very young, DH and I had a disastrous vacation - mostly because of serious tooth pain, two root canals, and some other crazy circumstances. A family member told us to get over it and be happy that we were on vacation in the first place. Well, it really didn't change how we felt, and we knew that if he was in a similar situation, he would have been just as unhappy as we were. The money we spent (very precious when first married), the disappointment we felt, the severe pain and nausea I had to deal with far from home (not to mention trying to find a Dentist) - somebody deciding that we shouldn't be upset was not only pointless, but also a little hurtful.

I have no problem with the posters who have expressed surprised at someone being upset. I have no problem with people who have stated that they are involved with adoption and it didn't bother them at all. I don't even have a problem with posters who state that writing to a movie studio won't make a difference (I think you're dead on right about that). What has bugged me are the people who have decided that its silly or even pathetic to be upset. When was the last time someone telling you that you shouldn't be upset made a positive difference in your life?
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:31 PM   #219
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Talk about overprotective parents. I seriously doubt your kids did not laugh at the line. It wasn't just the joke, but the deliverance and timing that was perfect. Plus yea know, adopted people can be evil and Thor stated a factual truth. Loki is adopted and he did kill 80 people.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:46 AM   #220
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People should stop getting offended over EVERYTHING!

Either people are looking for any reason to be offended, or they are misinterpreting what is being said. When Thor makes the comment about Loki being adopted, it is not to say that Loki did all those bad things BECAUSE he is adopted. He made the commend about Loki being adopted to distance himself from Loki's evil nature and point out they are not related by blood (and are therefore not similar). I had a friend who always commented on how crazy his family was and would always say "I'm adopted" (even though he wasn't). Are those of us who are not adopted supposed to feel insulted because what my friend meant was that because his family is not adopted they are crazy, and because he is adopted, he is normal? No. Again, the adoption comment is just supposed to suggest they are not alike -- not that one is better or worse BECAUSE he was adopted or not adopted.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:49 AM   #221
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Am I the only one finding all these first time posters a little...odd?
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:03 AM   #222
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This is an awful lot of outrage!

Who has this much time to whine about adoption in movies?


Some people have lost all touch with reality.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #223
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This is an awful lot of outrage!

Who has this much time to whine about adoption in movies?


Some people have lost all touch with reality.
As I see it, there has been an equal amount of "whining" from BOTH sides. The ones who believe they are entitled to declare what should and should not offend/upset adopted people (ironically coming from a lot of people whose lives have not been touched by adoption) have been just as vocal, as your post illustrates.
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:27 AM   #224
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Disney, Adoption and The Avengers...

This is an offensive line. In fact, it seems to me that adoption is the one last thing people feel free to make fun of. Imagine if he had said, "Well, he's Hispanic." Or well, "he's gay." There would justifiably be outrage over it. Let's think about the children who will be seeing this -- the adopted ones will wonder what the joke is, and the kids they go to school with who know of the adoption may very well equate that with being a "bad thing." For whatever reason, that tendency to think adoption is something to be ashamed of is still there -- just the other day a girl at school said to my third grade son, "Well, at least I'm not adopted." Not saying she saw the movie, just saying that this kind of a comment in the movie reinforces a ridiculously negative stereotype that there's something wrong with being adopted. Just as there's nothing wrong with being from any race, creed or sexual orientation, there's nothing wrong with being adopted and the experience shouldn't be the butt of jokes. Disney, I'm ashamed of you and this is one movie i won't be taking my son to see. Maybe you should think of re-editing this and taking out the line.
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:58 AM   #225
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This is an offensive line. In fact, it seems to me that adoption is the one last thing people feel free to make fun of. ." There would justifiably be outrage over it. Let's think about the children who will be seeing this -- the adopted ones will wonder what the joke is, and the kids they go to school with who know of the adoption may very well equate that with being a "bad thing." For whatever reason, that tendency to think adoption is something to be ashamed of is still there -- just the other day a girl at school said to my third grade son, "Well, at least I'm not adopted." Not saying she saw the movie, just saying that this kind of a comment in the movie reinforces a ridiculously negative stereotype that there's something wrong with being adopted. Just as there's nothing wrong with being from any race, creed or sexual orientation, there's nothing wrong with being adopted and the experience shouldn't be the butt of jokes. Disney, I'm ashamed of you and this is one movie i won't be taking my son to see. Maybe you should think of re-editing this and taking out the line.
Doubt that will happen especially since it's on it's way to making a billion bucks but I do encourage you to also write a letter. (lol, I'm a big fan of letting companies know why they are not getting my dough)

But that's just it, there are tons of shows on tv that make one liners about certain groups. Heck on Modern family last week when they were in Disney land, Jay said to Gloria "Don't go all latin on me". In reference to her being Columbian and the only reason why I watch 2 broke girls is because they are an equal opportunity offender. I'm black and I love Garrett Morris character because he's always playing up the "black slick dude" stereotype and I think the episode when they go to the Jewish deli and play up every single stereotype of Hassidic Jews should win an emmy.
I suppose we can go on ad nauseum about this in every movie.

I'm not a big fan of song of the south for it's stereotypes but I've come to take it in its context. thanks to many people here on this boards that gave me opinions on the movie.

Now I empathize if some found that line offensive but I love a good comedic line and I hope I'm never so sensitive that I don't realize that some "habits" that my folks have are simply downright hysterical. Chris rocks movie "good hair" is a brillant example of this.

I went to see Avengers again this weekend, my nieces and nephews took the family as a mother's day treat. Line was still funny. truthfully most of the folks laughing were adults. My 8 year old niece definitely didn't get it. so hopefully those who found it funny are old enough to not equate a joke with some thing being "bad".

But as I've said a few pages ago, I'm the first to admit I've use that line and had that line used on me. We tell my younger sibling (49yo) all the time "you really must have been adopted". He was never offended so he says.
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