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Old 04-30-2012, 02:05 PM   #346
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you can eat with your hands but you can not lick your fingers.
How about someone ELSE's fingers?
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:14 PM   #347
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you can eat with your hands but you can not lick your fingers.
Unless, in my own house, I WANT TO. Ever hear the phrase finger-lickin' good??
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:27 PM   #348
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I don't really care about what's proper in this case. I eat in a way that makes me comfortable.

When I'm out, I usually eat burgers and things like that with a knife and fork. It has nothing to do with putting bitten food on a plate.
Have you ever seen the size of the burgers some places give you? I'm not putting something that big in my mouth, it'd squirt everywhere.
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So how do you eat a taco?


I don't have any pet peeves, I only have rules for my family. I don't care how anyone else chooses to eat.
Did you see The Office the other night? She had an interesting way of eating them.
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To be fair, we Cubans do. We have this big Cuban crackers that can accompany a meal. Some people butter them, I don't. BUT, they are broken up and eaten in pieces.
But, do you butter it piece by piece or butter it all it once? That is the determining factor as to whether or not you are doing it properly.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:56 PM   #349
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If you eat with your feet, please invite me over, I need to see that. Do you use a knife and fork? Have you washed your feet beforehand?
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:46 PM   #350
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Good heavens.

Remind me to never accept dinner invitations to most of your houses. You would be horrified by my family and our simple "country" (and apparently infantile) ways.

Please understand, first of all, that my house is small. We don't have a formal dining room, and our "dining area" is open-plan with our kitchen. Hence, meals are served family-style. When the food is ready, grab a plate, and dish up. When you get to the table, start eating; otherwise by the time we all get there the first person's food is cold.

The great all emcompassing bread debate. Ok, most of the time, bread is served one of two ways in my house. First would be sliced, usually buttered and toasted on a sheet pan in the oven, maybe with a little garlic on it. If there is a loaf of bread that we don't want to toast that night (french bread, etc) I pre-slice it ahead of time. Second would be rolls. Either way, they are over on the counter/stovetop with all the rest of the food and that includes the butterdish. When you serve yourself, grab a roll or a piece of bread. If it needs butter, slap some on... the whole thing!!! Finally, know what that piece of bread is really there for?? Sopping up all the gravy/spaghetti sauce, soup broth etc so it doesn't go to waste!

Napkins. Please use them. This is not debatable. But paper is just fine, and please don't put it in your lap. In fact, if you do, the puppy will probably run off with it. Setting it down beside your plate is just fine, in my book.

Burping at the table annoys me too, but if you can figure out a way to make my DH stop doing it, I will personally reward you.

Some foods are meant to be finger foods, and until someone proves otherwise, I will keep eating them with my hands. Whenever I see someone daintily cutting up a piece of fried chicken with a knife and fork I want to bop them over the head with a nice crispy drumstick.

What it comes down to is this. Dinner at my house is family time. Time when we all sit down together with no TV, no phones, no texting, etc. We have conversation, talk about eachother's days, and generally reconnect. I try to gently remind my children about table manners basics (don't talk with your mouth full, swallow one bite before shovelling in another, don't wipe your hands on your shirt, etc) but if we spend the entire meal obsessing about how we butter our bread or some of the other silly things I have read on here, we would totally lose the benefit of that family time.

Emily Post and I have never been really that close anyhow. She got all bent out of shape a few years ago when I decided that thanking people by email was OK in my book, and hasn't spoken to me since. I don't miss her at all.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:12 PM   #351
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:29 PM   #352
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I think the hostility is due to the way some people are stating the rules of etiquette. It's one thing to state that your pet peeve is a person buttering an entire roll or not tearing off pieces. It's another to call that person a name like the person who said it absolutely infantilizes the person or to state they would not want to associate with a person who doesn't know the rule.

I would have no interest dining with a person who felt that way. I agree that it's nice to learn new things that we may not have been taught. However, to insult people who may not have had that same exposure is worse, in my opinion. It comes across as very snobbish, which is worse to me than not knowing a particular etiquette rule.
You're right about the "lovely" adjectives used by some with "proper manners" when speaking about others who were not taught the same way. It just seemed there was a good deal of nastiness to the ones who were being helpful in sharing what they were taught in a respectful tone.

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I'm ordering the Manners for Dummies book! Thanks to whoever mentioned it here.

In reading this thread, I kept thinking what restaurants at Disney serve bread? I can't wait to look around and see how many people now butter and eat their bread the proper way!
You're welcome My copy of Etiquette for Dummies should be arriving tomorrow

Off the top of my head, Victoria & Albert's, California Grill, Flying Fish, Jiko, Liberty Tree Tavern, Tony's, Ohana, Coral Reef, Tuto Italia, Le Chefs De France, Rose & Crown, Brown Derby, Mama Melrose, Narcoossee's, Artist Point, Yachtsman Steakhouse, Portobello.

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Then get to a Dr. Nobody should have sinuses so swollen that they have to breathe with their mouth open all the time. There are great Rx nasal sprays with steroids that drain the sinuses.
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No serious seasonal allergies but serious all year allergies and severe asthma. I am an expert on the OTC and Rx drugs. Doing nothing and showing your food is not a solution. Try the OTCs and if they don't work then get to the Dr. There are great Rx steroid based nasal sprays that work wonders.

Sigh. Must be nice to not have to walk in someone else's shoes and STILL have ALL the answers. If only it were that simple. I can count on one hand the number of times I am able to breathe adequately out of my nose each year. Take a severly deviated septum, multiple polyps, year round allergies and asthma and you will find the OTC meds and Rx sprays and pills do NOT work on ALL sinus problems.

Consulting mutiple specialists and being told that surgery is a temporary fix at best and that there's not much else that can be done is NOT doing nothing.

My DB has the same issue, he had the surgery done. His recovery was quite painful. He was able to breathe out of his nostrils for exactly 6 months.

Holding my breath and keeling over is not a solution either
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:47 PM   #353
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I think everybody is hung up over etiquette vs. manners. There is a subtle difference.

Etiquette is basically a list of rules on how society should act.

Yes, the proper etiquette for eating bread is to never slather butter on it and then eat it. It is good manners to observe proper etiquette while dining in fine establishments, with business executives or if you happen to get a luncheon invite with William and Kate.

Manners are more of a regional thing and are all about about not offending others. It would be very poor manners to be sitting at a table where everybody is buttering their entire roll and eating it, while you act hoity toity breaking pieces of your bread off and looking down on those eating their bread in the perfectly acceptable regional way, but not "proper" etiquette. To act superior or make others feel uncomfortable, no matter what the etiquette books say is the height of bad manners.

Some of us have pet peeves about etiquette (mine are using utensils wrong and not putting your napkin in your lap), but that is all it is, a pet peeve. Would I say anything? Never. Would I like somebody less for it? Never. They were just taught differently. And it would be very poor manners to treat the person not performing to one's perceived standards as beneath you.

Good table manners are adapting etiquette to fit the situation so as not to offend your fellow dinner partners.

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:00 PM   #354
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I'm confused about this tearing a large slice of bread in half by grasping one side of it with the napkin. Who holds the other end? Should someone else grab that end and then you pull until the bread tears in half?
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:06 PM   #355
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I can't keep straight what offends others at the table.

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Cool - I call still blow the straw paper across the table at my kids!
Do not ever show them this! OMG, I did it one time horsing around with them in an empty fast food restaurant and that's all they ever wanted to do everywhere. I had to tell them every single time we went into a fast food place I would immediately whisper quietly in their ears, "don't do it!" They knew exactly what I meant.

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:14 PM   #356
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At home, my only rule is no shedding at the table.

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Old 04-30-2012, 06:17 PM   #357
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #358
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I think everybody is hung up over etiquette vs. manners. There is a subtle difference.

Etiquette is basically a list of rules on how society should act.

Yes, the proper etiquette for eating bread is to never slather butter on it and then eat it. It is good manners to observe proper etiquette while dining in fine establishments, with business executives or if you happen to get a luncheon invite with William and Kate.

Manners are more of a regional thing and are all about about not offending others. It would be very poor manners to be sitting at a table where everybody is buttering their entire roll and eating it, while you act hoity toity breaking pieces of your bread off and looking down on those eating their bread in the perfectly acceptable regional way, but not "proper" etiquette. To act superior or make others feel uncomfortable, no matter what the etiquette books say is the height of bad manners.

Some of us have pet peeves about etiquette (mine are using utensils wrong and not putting your napkin in your lap), but that is all it is, a pet peeve. Would I say anything? Never. Would I like somebody less for it? Never. They were just taught differently. And it would be very poor manners to treat the person not performing to one's perceived standards as beneath you.

Good table manners are adapting etiquette to fit the situation so as not to offend your fellow dinner partners.

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Thank you. Now if only people will read and think about this!!

Now, regarding straws and kids: Blowing the paper off the straw is one thing, and pushing the paper down into a little, accordioned pile which you can then put a drop of liquid on and watch it grow like a worm is another. However, don't ever, EVER show them how you can put one end of a straw in your mouth and the other in your axillary region (i.e., armpit), and blow. It makes the most incredible "gas" noise imaginable, and results in hysterical, uncontrollable laughter. The problem with this is you will be laughing so hard you won't be able to tell them to stop... and they won't, and I don't find this activity as acceptable in ANY of the etiquette books! (although it doesn't specifically say you CAN'T do this...
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:21 PM   #359
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Seriously? Sometimes there isn't anything they can do. I have been seeing an allergist since I was a child and tried about everything Rx and OTC on the market (along with allergy shots..something I can't do long term as they impact my immune system) and I still deal with times where I can't breath either. You are way oversimplifying something you apparently don't suffer from like others do.
Oh my, mine are bad , ever since they took seldane d off the market there is nothing else that works. I feel for anyone with these issues.
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