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Old 04-25-2012, 05:00 PM   #31
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Does anyone know if since the balance is added to your cruise fare if the cancellation policy will then be the same as the cruise cancellation policies or will the same ABD policies apply?
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Does anyone know if since the balance is added to your cruise fare if the cancellation policy will then be the same as the cruise cancellation policies or will the same ABD policies apply?
We asked this very question--and were told that the more liberal cruise cancellation policy applied
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We asked this very question--and were told that the more liberal cruise cancellation policy applied
Thank you.

I also inquired about it to my TA and ABD and was told the same, that it would follow the cruise lines typical cancellation.
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We asked this very question--and were told that the more liberal cruise cancellation policy applied
They can do the liberal Cruise Cancellation Policy because they don't have to worry about Hotel Contracts and a few other issues becuase the lodging is on the Ship
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Hi there! I'm just a little confused, and maybe you all can clarify for me? Are either the 3 day or 4 day Barcelona ABDs available as a pre-cruise add on for the 12 night Meds? Thanks so much!
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Hi there! I'm just a little confused, and maybe you all can clarify for me? Are either the 3 day or 4 day Barcelona ABDs available as a pre-cruise add on for the 12 night Meds? Thanks so much!
I think there have been conflicting reports. Some say it's just the Madrid add-on that isn't available for the 12 nights, some said it's both the Madrid & Barcelona 4-day add-ons that aren't. In this case, I'd suggest calling DCL and see what they tell you.

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I wanted to add some information that I found out myself since I was looking at this and had questions:
(I don't work for Disney.. i seriously do want to consider the ABD from what i've heard (never been on one myself).. but I haven't decided based on my current research... posting this just so people can maybe chime in what they think as well.. as we all know it's expensive so that goes without saying.. but is it 'worth it' this year)

12 night - Venice

2013 - Pricing = $3299/3129
(Note 2011 pricing for 10/11 night was 2699/2429)
(per night ~ 275/night.. for 2013 vs 10 night in 2011 so fairly unchanged)

But.. for 600 dollars more

a) Villefranche - seems like same tour described before (Monaco/Palace/Eze)
b) La Spezia - same tour (Florence+Gelato)
c) Rome - same tour (special vatican/coliseum/etc)
d) Naples - same tour (pizza making+capri)

e) Venice = gondola, walking tour, lunch, and glass blowing (NEW)
f) Dubrovnik = walking tour, lunch, and kayaking (NEW)

g) Malta = same tour (ferry, lunch, glassblowing, swimming)

And also non-excursion changes1) No onboard gratuities include now ($12/d*1 people *12 nights is appx ~150 LOSS)
2) Picture CD included (~?600) - same as before
3) No Palo - ? different from before (?~100)

So in my mind, 600 more in price, and losing 150 for gratuties
I"m not sure how much the Venice and Dubrovnik tours "cost" but seems like a lot in difference

The closest comparison (and this may be off obviously) I can make from the list per person and previously mentioned tours is approximately.. (and I'm giving benefit of the doubt on the high side)

1) Reception = $40(? my guess)
2) Villefranche tour - comparable (?) normal tour listed @ ~$199
lunch @ fairmont ~$40 (my guess)
3) La Spezia - Florence + Michangelo normal tour @ (~$229)
Gelato tour ($~?60 my guess)
4) Rome - Private "Behind the Scenes tour" - ~$599
Lunch ~$40 (my guess)
5) Naples - Pizza making tour (?~$60)
The Island of Capri tour ~$149
6) Animation class @ Sea - ~$100 (my guess)
7) (NEW) - Venice = Gondola tour private (~75)
Walking tour of venice (~?? 150)
Lunch (~40)
Glassblowing (~ ?? 150)
8) (NEW) - Dubrovnik = walking tour (~?? 125)
Lunch (~?? 40)
Kayaking in the Sea ( ~?? 125)
9) Malta = City tour (~50-75)
Kayaking (~75-100)
10) Reception farwell = ~50

Is about ~$2400-2500 on the high side.. although tough to make a specific comparison in excursions sometimes
Losing the gratutities hurts a little (150) in addition to the additional price change (~600+)

I know obviously there's a lot of gain in 1) private tour guides, 2) not having to worry about anything, 3) first off tenders/etc, 4) smaller group.. but balancing about $800pp ($3299-2400 or so) for four people is about 3-4k more possibly (on top of airfare!).. a whole another cruise!

Anyways.. just what I've been thinking about as I consider this... DCL also said it's going to be a hard '40' limit of people.. no changing.. for what that's worth

Can anyone who did the tours before give me an idea more so about them - it's not like I'm going to get to go to the Med a lot so I do want to try to see/do as much as I can

I've read trip reports, but I'm most interested in
1) sounds like the regular villefranche, le spazia tours through DCL could be comparable
2) how good really was the rome tour and could you do it separately (note: the day 6/30 we're there it looks like the vatican/etc closes early @ 2pm!) unless there is special disney magic for ALL tours
3) Venice and Dubrovnik are new, so all bets are off how much they are really worth and could just be planned alone instead

Addendum: From talking the ABD, there still might be a problem with the Vatican museums/etc that day (6/30) and they may be 'tweaking' the trip that Sunday.. no further info they could give, so stay tuned.. This might still even be a problem with 'regular' disney tours too very disappointing if it's true
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:11 AM   #38
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Can anyone who did the tours before give me an idea more so about them - it's not like I'm going to get to go to the Med a lot so I do want to try to see/do as much as I can

I've read trip reports, but I'm most interested in
1) sounds like the regular villefranche, le spazia tours through DCL could be comparable
2) how good really was the rome tour and could you do it separately (note: the day 6/30 we're there it looks like the vatican/etc closes early @ 2pm!) unless there is special disney magic for ALL tours
3) Venice and Dubrovnik are new, so all bets are off how much they are really worth and could just be planned alone instead

Addendum: From talking the ABD, there still might be a problem with the Vatican museums/etc that day (6/30) and they may be 'tweaking' the trip that Sunday.. no further info they could give, so stay tuned.. This might still even be a problem with 'regular' disney tours too very disappointing if it's true
Have you read my Trip Report? (link in my signature) I give a pretty detailed idea of what all the tours & extras were like.

1) Don't know about the DCL tours, but the ABD for Villefranche was great. It actually didn't include Eze in 2010, but another activity got cancelled, so the Guides took us to Eze, and we loved it. I don't think the DCL tours have the leeway to make choices like that.
2) I really enjoyed our Rome tour. We hit most of the highlights, skipped the lines (we walked right in to St Peter's Basilica), had a really nice lunch at a hotel. With a much smaller group.
3) Can't comment on 3).

If anyone can arrange for you to get into the Vatican museums, it'll be Disney. They arranged for one of the other ABD-add-ons to have a tour of the Accademia where the David is, when the Accademia was closed. It was a private tour, just them. The mouse has clout. I hope they work it out for you. Unfortunately, unlike a land-based ABD, they can't switch days around for you, which is what they usually do.

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Walking tours are generally inexpensive, so I would assume the one in Dubrovnik does not cost a whole lot. I researched on the gondola ride in Venice before and back in '08, it costs 90 euros for a half hour. The mask-making in Venice is quite an experience, not sure if you can arrange that on your own, but DCL has not released their itineraries and that may be an option. Walking the streets of Venice can be challenging since the street signs mainly direct you to bridges. You'll get it after a while.
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The Madrid add ons are only available for the 4 night sailings from Madrid.

Barcelona add ons are available for the twelve night sailings.

Here is some info....

Pre-Stay
3-Night Pre-Stay Barcelona
Adult - $1899.00 per person
Child - $1799.00 per person (Ages 4-11 but recommend children 6 and older)
Additional Deposit due at time of booking: 20% of ABD Add-On (Per Person)
Adventure Highlights:
Privately guided tour to the Sagrada Familia Cathedral, Montserrat and the Gothic Quarter.
Experience the culture and meet the people through activities including stained glass making and a Flamenco dance performance.
Get access to special experiences such as an archeology experience and a mountain hike.

4-Night Pre-Stay Barcelona – 4 NIGHT ADD ON ONLY AVAIALBLE WITH 4 NIGHT MED. & 4 NIGHT MADRID SAILINGS
Adult - $2899.00 per person
Child - $2749.00 per person (Ages 4-11 but recommend children 6 and older)
Additional Deposit due at time of booking: 20% of ABD Add-On (Per Person)
Adventure Highlights:
Visit the site of the 1992 Summer Olympics for a group photo with your fellow Adventurers.
Privately guided tour to the Sagrada Familia Cathedral and the Gothic Quarter to discover the genius of architect Antonio Gaudí.
Experience the culture and meet the people through activities including privately-held cooking class and a Flamenco dance performance.
Tour the Codorniu Cellars, owned by one of the oldest winemaking families in Spain - dating back to 1551. Explore the vineyard grounds by train and tour the cellar before sampling their famed cava while Junior Adventurers sip grape juice.

4-Night Pre-Stay Madrid - 4 NIGHT ADD ON ONLY AVAIALBLE WITH 4 NIGHT MED. & 4 NIGHT MADRID SAILINGS
Adult - $2899.00 per person
Child - $2749.00 per person (Ages 4-11 but recommend children 6 and older)
Additional Deposit due at time of booking: 20% of ABD Add-On (Per Person)
Adventure Highlights:
Take a privately-guided tour of the splendid Palacio Real and then set out to the countryside for a visit to the medieval Alcázar of Segovia.
Learn how to cook authentic Spanish cuisine from the chefs at Foxa Molino de Cantarranas, a former mill turned restaurant, hotel and museum.
Ride a bike or take a walking tour through the vast Parque del Retiro, with 350 acres of shade trees, gardens, fish ponds and a lake.
Experience the culture and meet the people through activities including tapas "pub crawl" and a Flamenco dance performance.


Onboard Experience

7-Night Mediterranean Magic
Adult - $2299.00 per person
Child - $2179.00 per person (Ages 4-11 but recommend children 6 and older)
Additional Deposit due at time of booking: 20% of ABD Add-On (Per Person)
Adventure Highlights:
Visit Monaco, playground of the rich and famous, for a tour of the opulent palace where film star Grace Kelly once resided.
Get a behind-the-scenes tour of the Grom Gelateria (gelato maker) in Florence.
Take a private tour of Rome's most famous landmarks, including the Coliseum, Forum, Trevi Fountain and Spanish Steps, as well as the Vatican City Museum and Sistine Chapel.
See how to press olive oil, make mozzarella cheese and harvest fruit at Agriturismo La Galatea Farm in Sorrento and enjoy a private pizza-making session with the chefs.
Cruise around the isle of Capri on a private boat and swim in the Mediterranean waters.

12-Night Mediterranean Magic (with Greece)
Adult - $3149.000 per person
Child - $2989.00 per person (Ages 4-11 but recommend children 6 and older)
Additional Deposit due at time of booking: 20% of ABD Add-On (Per Person)
Adventure Highlights:
Take a private tour of Rome's most famous landmarks, including the Coliseum, Forum, Trevi Fountain and Spanish Steps, as well as the Vatican City Museum and Sistine Chapel.
Visit Panathinaiko, the historic venue where the modern Olympics were first held with Junior Adventurers able to join in a mini marathon just for fun.
Enjoy lunch in the heart of Ephesus where you'll get to try Turkish coffee.
A chef will teach you how to prepare some classic Greek favorites in a cooking class with an idyllic setting on the island of Mykonos.
Enjoy swimming off the coast of Malta.

12-Night Mediterranean Magic (with Venice)
Adult - $3299.00 per person
Child - $3129.00 per person (Ages 4-11 but recommend children 6 and older)
Additional Deposit due at time of booking: 20% of ABD Add-On (Per Person)
Adventure Highlights:
Take a private tour of Rome's most famous landmarks, including the Coliseum, Forum, Trevi Fountain and Spanish Steps, as well as the Vatican City Museum and Sistine Chapel.
See how to press olive oil, make mozzarella cheese and harvest fruit at Agriturismo La Galatea Farm in Sorrento and enjoy a private pizza-making session with the chefs.
Enjoy a private gondola tour of Venice.
Take the family on a scenic kayaking experience in the Adriatic Sea along the breathtaking coastline of Croatia in Dubrovnik.
Enjoy swimming off the coast of Malta.


*Deposit-20% on all reservations, even onboard bookings.
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I wanted to add some information that I found out myself since I was looking at this and had questions:
(I don't work for Disney.. i seriously do want to consider the ABD from what i've heard (never been on one myself).. but I haven't decided based on my current research... posting this just so people can maybe chime in what they think as well.. as we all know it's expensive so that goes without saying.. but is it 'worth it' this year)

12 night - Venice

2013 - Pricing = $3299/3129
(Note 2011 pricing for 10/11 night was 2699/2429)
(per night ~ 275/night.. for 2013 vs 10 night in 2011 so fairly unchanged)

But.. for 600 dollars more

a) Villefranche - seems like same tour described before (Monaco/Palace/Eze)
b) La Spezia - same tour (Florence+Gelato)
c) Rome - same tour (special vatican/coliseum/etc)
d) Naples - same tour (pizza making+capri)

e) Venice = gondola, walking tour, lunch, and glass blowing (NEW)
f) Dubrovnik = walking tour, lunch, and kayaking (NEW)

g) Malta = same tour (ferry, lunch, glassblowing, swimming)

And also non-excursion changes1) No onboard gratuities include now ($12/d*1 people *12 nights is appx ~150 LOSS)
2) Picture CD included (~?600) - same as before
3) No Palo - ? different from before (?~100)

So in my mind, 600 more in price, and losing 150 for gratuties
I"m not sure how much the Venice and Dubrovnik tours "cost" but seems like a lot in difference

The closest comparison (and this may be off obviously) I can make from the list per person and previously mentioned tours is approximately.. (and I'm giving benefit of the doubt on the high side)

1) Reception = $40(? my guess)
2) Villefranche tour - comparable (?) normal tour listed @ ~$199
lunch @ fairmont ~$40 (my guess)
3) La Spezia - Florence + Michangelo normal tour @ (~$229)
Gelato tour ($~?60 my guess)
4) Rome - Private "Behind the Scenes tour" - ~$599
Lunch ~$40 (my guess)
5) Naples - Pizza making tour (?~$60)
The Island of Capri tour ~$149
6) Animation class @ Sea - ~$100 (my guess)
7) (NEW) - Venice = Gondola tour private (~75)
Walking tour of venice (~?? 150)
Lunch (~40)
Glassblowing (~ ?? 150)
8) (NEW) - Dubrovnik = walking tour (~?? 125)
Lunch (~?? 40)
Kayaking in the Sea ( ~?? 125)
9) Malta = City tour (~50-75)
Kayaking (~75-100)
10) Reception farwell = ~50

Is about ~$2400-2500 on the high side.. although tough to make a specific comparison in excursions sometimes
Losing the gratutities hurts a little (150) in addition to the additional price change (~600+)

I know obviously there's a lot of gain in 1) private tour guides, 2) not having to worry about anything, 3) first off tenders/etc, 4) smaller group.. but balancing about $800pp ($3299-2400 or so) for four people is about 3-4k more possibly (on top of airfare!).. a whole another cruise!

Anyways.. just what I've been thinking about as I consider this... DCL also said it's going to be a hard '40' limit of people.. no changing.. for what that's worth

Can anyone who did the tours before give me an idea more so about them - it's not like I'm going to get to go to the Med a lot so I do want to try to see/do as much as I can

I've read trip reports, but I'm most interested in
1) sounds like the regular villefranche, le spazia tours through DCL could be comparable
2) how good really was the rome tour and could you do it separately (note: the day 6/30 we're there it looks like the vatican/etc closes early @ 2pm!) unless there is special disney magic for ALL tours
3) Venice and Dubrovnik are new, so all bets are off how much they are really worth and could just be planned alone instead

Addendum: From talking the ABD, there still might be a problem with the Vatican museums/etc that day (6/30) and they may be 'tweaking' the trip that Sunday.. no further info they could give, so stay tuned.. This might still even be a problem with 'regular' disney tours too very disappointing if it's true

We have been doing the same thing re: comparing costs ... and have decided to go with ABD for our 7/25/13 cruise. While I am also figuring a ~$2500 difference, we absolutely loved our ABD tour in 2008 and felt that the experience was really first class and worth the extra money.

Your comment re: the Rome day is interesting. Based on my own research, the Vatican is open for free to the public on the last Sunday of the month ... no tour groups ... and they close early that day. So, it will be interesting if the Disney Magic works in the Vatican or if that won't be an option for our cruises (as both itineraries fall on the last Sunday of the month). Hopefully we can see St. Peter's if nothing else!!

My family is so excited about the cruise - and now ABD as well - and can't wait til July 2013! Seems so long, but I bet it will be here before I know it!
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Have you read my Trip Report? (link in my signature) I give a pretty detailed idea of what all the tours & extras were like.

If anyone can arrange for you to get into the Vatican museums, it'll be Disney. They arranged for one of the other ABD-add-ons to have a tour of the Accademia where the David is, when the Accademia was closed. It was a private tour, just them. The mouse has clout. I hope they work it out for you. Unfortunately, unlike a land-based ABD, they can't switch days around for you, which is what they usually do.

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Hey SH..
Thanks!
Yes.. i've read your tour report (3 times now, even!!) just to get a feeling for things..
Not knowing quite what 'regular' tours Disney might offer makes it a little difficult to decide how to go with it..

I really don't want to 'mess with it', i.e. scheduling/arranging excursions, but I'm not sure if the kids or wife are 100% excited about all of it (i.e. vatican, coliseum yes.. but kayaking maybe not.. or whether they'd like to see the leaning tower of pisa instead [not on the ABD that i can tell])

The last thing I want to hear is dragging the 2 kids around, day 3 or 4 of the exertion and hear "I'm tired......"

I think I"m going to have to pick up the Rick Steve's book and read it

Then again, the kicker one way or another may be the 'non-waiting'.. I just can't stand to wait too much
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By the way also.. I was curious so had to ask also since we're dvc..

ABD add on (12 night) for DVC members

447 pts (age 11+)
424 pts (kids)

Have to have at least 1 person on cruise booked on pts, and at least 1 person on ABD booked on pts..

(If you go DVC point<>cash (and i go about $8/pt in my calculations), it's fairly reasonable (8*447=3576)
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By the way also.. I was curious so had to ask also since we're dvc..

ABD add on (12 night) for DVC members

447 pts (age 11+)
424 pts (kids)

Have to have at least 1 person on cruise booked on pts, and at least 1 person on ABD booked on pts..

(If you go DVC point<>cash (and i go about $8/pt in my calculations), it's fairly reasonable (8*447=3576)
Oh wow! Is this on the DVC website? They didn't offer it before I think.
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Hmmm... now that I think about it, that's a LOT of points. Considering 1 adult is a minimum of 348 pts for a cat 11 room plus the ABD pts, that's a minimum of 800 points to book it with DVC plus the additional cash for the other passengers.
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