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Old 09-03-2012, 07:16 AM   #2356
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Happy to make it to the 10mile mark today! Had a not so great run - just couldn't get into the groove of it. It was stinking hot, humid, and very sunny. I got a great tan though!

I'm not sure I drank enough though. I did feel at the time like I was drinking often. I drank about 1.25 litres (with 2 scoops of E-load), half a banana at the 8 mark, had 3 salt tabs (too many?), and 1.5 packages of Power Ade Chews. I was well hydrated to begin with (had to visit the forest during the run). I ran for 2.25 hours. I didn't feel dehydrated, but I didn't urinate much for the first few hours. Lots of salt on my face and chest when I was done.

I am super sore though this evening! I am not usually this sore. Have had a short nap and used the roller, and got up and about shopping. Still stiff and sore. Last long run was 14k and it was fine... I did do a good run yesterday of 8.5k less than 24 hours before this run. I'm sure that affected me, as I am only doing 36-40k a week, so not big on the mileage yet.

I'd love some feedback on how much I drank/fuelled/salted. I am new to this.
Actually, it is hard to say if you over or under hydrated. Hydration rates are very individual and need to be determined for each person. The method is easy, weight pre-run before dressing and then post run after disrobing and drying off. If you gained weight, you over hydrated. If you lost more than 1-2% body weight, then you under hydrated. Water weighs about 8 pounds per gallon so if you came back a half pound light, then you would add 2 quarts to the run period.

As far as the soreness goes, look back to compare your 10 mile course and previous day's activity with the previous long run's. Did you run the day before the 14k? was the 10 mile course hillier or flatter than the 14k? Did you run faster? Look at the total week's distance compared with the previous weeks. Also, was it markedly hotter yesterday? Finally look at the other activities for the week. Did you do something extra that could have left you a little sore? Any of these items could create post run soreness - along with simply being sore from the run.

Make sure that you are stretching post run - while still warm. Many folks ice bath, but I think the current thought is a warm bath on the legs will make the muscle feel better post run. You may want to try that.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:24 AM   #2357
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What does everyone recommend for hydration on runs? I was thinking of getting a handheld bottle and a spibelt for fuel, but then I figured I would just combine one into a Camelbak.

Do you guys prefer the ones that sit at the waist or on the back? I know it is personal preference but figured I would get some recommendations.

Also, do you wear them during races? I wouldn't want to but would need a spibelt then for fuel. Just trying to get some ideas.
I'm using a Camelbak Marathoner. It's a vest with a 70 oz bladder worn on the back, four pockets in the front portion (two big enough for water bottles) and a larger pocket in the back. It fits well, no bouncing, and I can carry the appropriate number of gels and electrolyte tablets needed. It's very comfortable.

For races, I bought a Fuel Belt Race Number Belt. It will hold my bib, has a small pouch, and the ability to hold ten gel packs. I have yet to try it.

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Old 09-03-2012, 08:54 AM   #2358
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I just signed up for the half-marathon, yesterday, and today I'm booking our package! Just one questions, are discounts on park tickets available to runners?
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:57 AM   #2359
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I just signed up for the half-marathon, yesterday, and today I'm booking our package! Just one questions, are discounts on park tickets available to runners?
It is my understanding that Marathon weekend is the only runDisney event without discounts.
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It is my understanding that Marathon weekend is the only runDisney event without discounts.
How'd I not expect that? From one Palm Beach Countyer to another, thanks! Hoping this winter will be like last year's, for it would be my ideal running conditions and maybe allow us to get some pool time at YC.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:03 PM   #2361
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I'm confused about the DL 1/2 results. It says one guy came in 1st at 1:05 (that's B-A-N-A-N-A-S in itself), but when I look at top 25 overall, it says a 53 year old guy came in at 53 minutes!!!!! that's just RIDICULOUS!



So jealous because I can't even run a 10 minute mile, LOL.


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Old 09-03-2012, 06:10 PM   #2362
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53 minutes is obviously a chip error. Don't be jealous.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:14 PM   #2363
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I'm confused about the DL 1/2 results. It says one guy came in 1st at 1:05 (that's B-A-N-A-N-A-S in itself), but when I look at top 25 overall, it says a 53 year old guy came in at 53 minutes!!!!! that's just RIDICULOUS!



So jealous because I can't even run a 10 minute mile, LOL.


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I'm a back-of-the-pack race-day partier, too! The guy that finished in 52 minutes is the winner of the wheel division! And an amazing time!
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:55 PM   #2364
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Hang in there. a 17 mile run is really the same as a 19 mile run.... It's hot outside and pushing longer than 3:30 is really good enough. I do have a question about being at this distance the first week of September. Are you planning on running a marathon prior to Disney? I am assuming so but just in case you are not, your mileage seems a little long for this far out.

Regardless, hang in there. It's still hot outside and you will do better once the temps fall
Thanks Coach. Yes I have my first marathon Oct 7 here at home. After that I will take a few weeks easy then back into it for Goofy.
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I'm confused about the DL 1/2 results. It says one guy came in 1st at 1:05 (that's B-A-N-A-N-A-S in itself), but when I look at top 25 overall, it says a 53 year old guy came in at 53 minutes!!!!! that's just RIDICULOUS!

So jealous because I can't even run a 10 minute mile, LOL.

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I think it's wheel division.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:32 PM   #2366
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Actually, it is hard to say if you over or under hydrated. Hydration rates are very individual and need to be determined for each person. The method is easy, weight pre-run before dressing and then post run after disrobing and drying off. If you gained weight, you over hydrated. If you lost more than 1-2% body weight, then you under hydrated. Water weighs about 8 pounds per gallon so if you came back a half pound light, then you would add 2 quarts to the run period.

As far as the soreness goes, look back to compare your 10 mile course and previous day's activity with the previous long run's. Did you run the day before the 14k? was the 10 mile course hillier or flatter than the 14k? Did you run faster? Look at the total week's distance compared with the previous weeks. Also, was it markedly hotter yesterday? Finally look at the other activities for the week. Did you do something extra that could have left you a little sore? Any of these items could create post run soreness - along with simply being sore from the run.

Make sure that you are stretching post run - while still warm. Many folks ice bath, but I think the current thought is a warm bath on the legs will make the muscle feel better post run. You may want to try that.
Thanks! I lost about 2% body weight.

I will analyze it and take a look at why it seemed so much harder. Thanks for the suggestions. After resting today (after being on my feet all day yesterday and working until 5am - gosh I was sore when I finally crawled into bed) I feel pretty ok - just some residual sore knees (I have that patello-femoral thing).

I have always had a warm bath after a run. It has always just felt right. I love soaking in the tub after a good run and just chilling for a bit. Sometimes I ice sore parts while in the tub, and alternate cold and warmth to the areas, too.

I didn't stretch much yesterday: I need to be more disciplined about that. I was just *done* and wanted to get home and into the tub.

Thanks for your feedback - much appreciated Coach!
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Thanks Coach. Yes I have my first marathon Oct 7 here at home. After that I will take a few weeks easy then back into it for Goofy.
Very cool! I have my first timed Full on October 7th as well (in Chicago). And then, prepare for Goofy. You and I are on the same path, my friend.
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I'm confused about the DL 1/2 results. It says one guy came in 1st at 1:05 (that's B-A-N-A-N-A-S in itself), but when I look at top 25 overall, it says a 53 year old guy came in at 53 minutes!!!!! that's just RIDICULOUS!

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As in the above, he's a wheelie. It's interesting that the wheelies were not that far in front of the elites. That is atypical.

I did chime in to say that a 65 minute half on a Disney course is amazing! They have removed many of the park related kinks since the early version of the course but this would still be a 62 -63 minute half on a 'regular' course. But then what would you expect from a guy from Running Springs, CA?

Note that chip errors would not present itself as a bogus time. They generally come across as no deduct for a start in a later corral (i.e. the chip and gross times are the same) giving the runner a longer time on course than they were - or - they have no finish read leaving the runner as a DNF until cleaned up.

Note that if you ever come in with the dnf but you know you finished, write the RD early. Let them know of your approximate finish time. Most races have photographers or a finish video feed that can be reviewed. You will usually be able to clear this up in a couple weeks.

Cleaning up the failure to read at the start is a little trickier, but you can usually get this narrowed down to the start time of the corral instead of the race.
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Thanks Coach. Yes I have my first marathon Oct 7 here at home. After that I will take a few weeks easy then back into it for Goofy.
Cool. Have fun!
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:56 PM   #2370
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I will train with my FlashFlo model CamelBack. I cannot stand the backpack model on the run due to the bounce. Likewise, I do not like bottle belts due to the bounce. I have had the FlashFlow for a decade + and it still works well. The newer ones have a 50 ounce bladder and sit on the hips. You simply tighten the belt and take off. The unit has a second set of straps that cinch the bladder up as you begin to empty it. This prevents sloshing as the bladder empties. It also has a second compartment for storage.
Coach, I have a Camelback backpack model and I reduced the sloshing by holding the bladder upside down and sucking out the air through the hose before training. I saw that trick on Youtube and it works pretty well.
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