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Old 06-30-2012, 10:32 AM   #46
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And it is written that only 4 can be in a one bedroom in the contracts and that's legal.
It is also written that DVC can unilaterally change most of the POS at their whim. There are a few exceptions to that, but I don't see where occupancy is one of them.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:47 AM   #47
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Like that is going to happen with any sensible adult parents.
Give up the master bedroom to three small kids??? Hah!
Are you implying that I'm not a sensible adult parent?

We're not moving in here people. Just a week vacation with family. Family is the key word here.
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:51 PM   #48
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So you are saying that one person without a bed is a perk for members?

I used to be a member and that is not a perk.

Did anyone realize to think that 3 children can fit comfortably in the king bed and 2 adults in the queen sleeper. Just a thought here.

I also read back on the first thread (that was closed) this same topic about 5 in a one bedroom not being a perk and everyone arguing in favor of it not being a perk. So make up your minds. You can't have it both ways. Sorry.

And it is written that only 4 can be in a one bedroom in the contracts and that's legal.
I don't think my family of five will ever book a 1BR that sleeps four even though DVC will let us, so no, personally I don't see that as a perk. We have so far even avoided the 1BRs that sleeps five people in favor of a 2BR. One of the reasons we bought DVC was to have more space, not bring an air mattress for one of my kids to sleep on the floor, and certainly not for me and my husband to sleep on a pullout while my three kids sleep in the king size bed. Other people might not mind that on vacation; fine with me as long as they don't have more people in their room than listed on their reservation. DVC members have that option of five in a 1BR...advantage, perk, whatever your want to call it...and people booking through CRO do not. I'm not saying I agree with DVC members being allowed to do that, but I don't see it as some injustice to non-members. We've only been members for a couple of years and it never bothered me in the past that DVC members could book five in a 1BR at BCV, for example, but we could not do the same through CRO. We weren't entitled to do that just because DVC members could do so.
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:50 PM   #49
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Yes there are voting rights, but the items that are not covered by DVC's management authority are very limited.
Actually I don' think that's accurate when you look at the POS as a whole. DVCMC has a legal and fiduciary responsibility to run the resorts for the members, not Disney. Plus the POS clearly states that the voting rep cannot vote for things that are clearly not in the best interest of the membership as a whole. The only things Disney has complete control of are reservation procedures and the working of the club as the resorts interact and event then, the above restrictions apply.

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It is also written that DVC can unilaterally change most of the POS at their whim. There are a few exceptions to that, but I don't see where occupancy is one of them.
I am certain that DVC can't change the occupancy on a whim and I'm also certain they wouldn't do it even if they could.
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Any studios allow 5?

Are there any studios that will allow 2 adults and 3 kids? Our youngest just turned 3. Thanks!
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:37 PM   #51
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Are there any studios that will allow 2 adults and 3 kids? Our youngest just turned 3. Thanks!
POR and some of the deluxes have a day bed.

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No, there are no studios that allow 5, you would need a one bedroom as a minimum.
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No, there are no studios that allow 5, you would need a one bedroom as a minimum.
And that one bedroom cannot be a value 1 bedroom at Jambo House. And there are no connecting studios so 2 studios would not be an option unless the adults wanted to split up and go to a separate studio to be with the kids.
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POR and some of the deluxes have a day bed.

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And that one bedroom cannot be a value 1 bedroom at Jambo House. And there are no connecting studios so 2 studios would not be an option unless the adults wanted to split up and go to a separate studio to be with the kids.
Thanks, that's what I thought. We didn't count on our third child when we bought! May be time for an add on.
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So while you are bantering back and forth, has anyone stayed in WLV with 9 people, I think it would be really crowded but might save a few points in getting a studio to take the overflow.

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The requirement to run the time share in the best interests of the majority of memebers is actually part of FL state law and regulation, and is just mirrored in some of the documentation.

I am quite sure that DVC would say that everyting they do including changing occupancy is the best interests of the majority of members.
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So while you are bantering back and forth, has anyone stayed in WLV with 9 people, I think it would be really crowded but might save a few points in getting a studio to take the overflow.

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It used to be they would allow five in the one bedroom meant for four, but not extra children under the age of three (so no six in the room with one under three).

Likewise, they didn't allow nine in the two bedrooms that sleep eight unless the ninth person was under the age of three. No extra three or older. Not sure they still stick with that rule or not.

But if you were to have nine in a two bedroom, at least half or more would need to be kids to make me comfortable. I couldn't imagine nine full grown people in a room that size. Just too crowded. Even the rooms that currently sleep nine just seem too small to fit nine full sized people in the villa.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:34 PM   #58
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Are there any studios that will allow 2 adults and 3 kids? Our youngest just turned 3. Thanks!
We have had 5 at Boardwalk in a studio. They enter request for what they used to call the deluxe studios (now they all are called that) though it is not guaranteed you will get one. They have a wooden bench with a thin cushion that they call a daybed. It is about 4 feet long. Since there is no guarantee of getting such a room, we always brought a blow up mattress which we put over by the entrance door.
Our girls are married and have not been with us for a few years, but when they did I only remember getting the room with the daybed once.
We had always been told they will book one over stated occupancy but you had to bring bedding and towels for that person.
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We have had 5 at Boardwalk in a studio. They enter request for what they used to call the deluxe studios (now they all are called that) though it is not guaranteed you will get one. They have a wooden bench with a thin cushion that they call a daybed. It is about 4 feet long. Since there is no guarantee of getting such a room, we always brought a blow up mattress which we put over by the entrance door.
Our girls are married and have not been with us for a few years, but when they did I only remember getting the room with the daybed once.
We had always been told they will book one over stated occupancy but you had to bring bedding and towels for that person.
They used to be called Studio Plus when the resort first opened. They are the dedicated studios that do not connect to a one bedroom to form a 2 bedroom lock-off unit. There have been some reports that many units have had the "daybeds" removed during the last rehab, and that they will no longer book 5 people, unless one is under age 3 and sleeps in a pak-n-play.
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has anyone stayed in WLV with 9 people, I think it would be really crowded but might save a few points in getting a studio to take the overflow.
I don't think I'd do this, personally. Units at VWL (along with the other "2nd generation" resorts: BWV, BCV, and SSR) are all on the small side, particularly in the kitchen/living room area. We thought a 2BR there was just about right for our family of four. Six would have been tight. I can't imagine eight.

If you want to try this, look at a 2BR at BLT (third bathroom, officially sleeps nine), AKV-Kidani (ditto), or OKW (huge!) And, even at OKW, 9 might be problematic.
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