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Old 02-18-2012, 07:55 PM   #16
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$720 in tips! Trafalgar is looking better all the time!
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:27 PM   #17
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I've done tours with Trafalgar, Cosmos, and Globus. Cosmos & Globus are run by the same company, with Globus being the higher end version (and closer to the cities) than Cosmos.

Cosmos is good for an inexpensive vacation with good hotels. Globus is better for a bit pricier vacation (usually 1-2 days shorter than Cosmos for about $500-800 more per person) but has great hotels.

Tips are typically $3-5 per person per day for the tour director and the driver (for Globus and Cosmos). It used to be $1-2 per person per day, then increased to 1 to 2 Euros per person per day until it's current rate. Depending on the person, you can usually deduct 1-3 days off the trip (1st day is your travel day, last day is your travel day, 2nd day all you do is meet the tour director and that's it).
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:55 AM   #18
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Last year ABD recommended $5 to $9 per day per guest for each adventure guide. So for a family of 4 on a 10 day adventure, for example, if you tip $9 per day the tip for each guide would be 9x10x4 = $360. So $720 total for the two adventure guides. That information used to be on the ABD website, but I haven't been able to find it since they did the redesign.
It is still on the ABD site but you have to hunt for it, you need to go to a specific adventure and under trip tips and FAQ's go down and under tipping it is listed.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:40 AM   #19
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It is still on the ABD site but you have to hunt for it, you need to go to a specific adventure and under trip tips and FAQ's go down and under tipping it is listed.


Thanks, Tozzie!

Some of the trips recommend $5-$9 and some $6-$9. I don't recall different ranges depending on itineraries for past years, but I may have been mostly focused on the trip I was taking and didn't check the others.
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Old 02-22-2012, 03:16 AM   #20
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F.Y.I. Trafalgar has a very informative community board similar to Dis. Tour Reviews, helpful suggestions for travel etc. Really helped a lot before I took my first international trip
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:32 AM   #21
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Cannot believe there still so many people can affort such an expensive entertainment spending in such a economic,
that's why Disney wont give any discount.
Mm, I must be the 99% :-)
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:55 AM   #22
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Cannot believe there still so many people can affort such an expensive entertainment spending in such a economic,
that's why Disney wont give any discount.
Mm, I must be the 99% :-)
That's why I'm asking, it's a very expensive trip! But I'm happy for others that can do it. I'm thinking it will be a special family trip as we are celebrating our 20th anniversary. A trip to remember I am hoping! But trafalgar and others look more reasonable. I think I will be getting my Disney fix on a cruise or at the parks, not unfortunately through Disney adventures.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:47 PM   #23
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That's why I'm asking, it's a very expensive trip! But I'm happy for others that can do it. I'm thinking it will be a special family trip as we are celebrating our 20th anniversary. A trip to remember I am hoping! But trafalgar and others look more reasonable. I think I will be getting my Disney fix on a cruise or at the parks, not unfortunately through Disney adventures.
You don't specify if you are strictly looking for a trip to London & Paris, or if that was just the one that caught your eye. Knights & Lights is one of ABD's most expensive trips (there are trips that *cost* more, but they are much longer trips. On a per-day basis, I think Knights & Lights is close to tops in price per day, if not *the* top). There are lots of other ABD's that are not going to cost you $18,000 for a family of 4. It's still not cheap, but looking at the most expensive trip doesn't give you an accurate picture.

But yes, there are other tour companies out there that are good, reputable companies, that will do London & Paris cheaper than ABD. You're the only one who can decide if what ABD offers is worth the extra money or not.

But I also feel compelled to say, traveling with ABD is not about "getting your Disney fix". The trips are *very* un-Disneyfied. You don't see Mickey & Minnie and Donald at Trafalgar Square. Really, the only nod to Disney is the pins you get on every trip. For ABD, "Disney" is about the *quality* and the access that Disney has. It's not about the Disney characters, etc.

I hope you have a wonderful trip, whoever you end up traveling with!

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Old 02-26-2012, 03:22 PM   #24
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$720 in tips! Trafalgar is looking better all the time!
Have you checked out the cost for tips on Trafalgar? It's true you only have one Guide to tip (I believe they call them the Tour Director), but Trafalgar's cost does not include tipping the bus driver or the local tour guides. ABD includes the bus driver, all local guides, all included meals, etc in the tips they cover. The only tips not covered with ABD is the Adventure Guides. From what I can see, Trafalgar doesn't include much, tip-wise. So in the end, tips might be a wash.

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ETA: OK, I found this on Trafalgar's site:

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Suggested tipping rates (per person traveling) for your Trafalgar team in Europe/UK are €4/£3 per day for your Travel Director, €2.50/£2 per day for your Coach Driver, and €2/£1 per half-day for a Local Guide.
That totals to €8.5 a day, so about $11 per person, per day. So, using the same example, it's $11x10x4 = $440. So I guess it's not *as* "bad" as ABD, but it's still not cheap with Trafalgor, either.

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You don't specify if you are strictly looking for a trip to London & Paris, or if that was just the one that caught your eye. Knights & Lights is one of ABD's most expensive trips (there are trips that *cost* more, but they are much longer trips. On a per-day basis, I think Knights & Lights is close to tops in price per day, if not *the* top). There are lots of other ABD's that are not going to cost you $18,000 for a family of 4. It's still not cheap, but looking at the most expensive trip doesn't give you an accurate picture.

But yes, there are other tour companies out there that are good, reputable companies, that will do London & Paris cheaper than ABD. You're the only one who can decide if what ABD offers is worth the extra money or not.

But I also feel compelled to say, traveling with ABD is not about "getting your Disney fix". The trips are *very* un-Disneyfied. You don't see Mickey & Minnie and Donald at Trafalgar Square. Really, the only nod to Disney is the pins you get on every trip. For ABD, "Disney" is about the *quality* and the access that Disney has. It's not about the Disney characters, etc.

I hope you have a wonderful trip, whoever you end up traveling with!

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I realize no characters, etc. I mean disney fix also by quality. I always say there are no surprises with Disney quality.
Also, I picked the Paris/London trip because it's a dream trip for me. Did not realize its one of the more expensive trips. Figures!
Maybe we will look at a different trip, still up in the air about our trip, just really want to do something very memorable. I don't have that many trips left with my teenage son!
Thanks for your thoughts!
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:17 PM   #26
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Thanks so much for all the options! It is a great place to start researching. We would love to do ABD but can't stomach the premium price associated with it. I am sure it is fantastic but paying almost 30-50% more than the same trip on your own is a lot of stomach. I still love reading all the trip reports though!
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