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Old 11-20-2011, 02:24 PM   #1
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Gay characters (and couples) in Disney shows and movies

(Note: I wasn't sure whether this belonged in the Gay and Lesbian section, but since that section's description says it is about Disney experiences, I figured this would be a better fit. If I am wrong about that, I apologize and hopefully a mod will move it.)

It is a fact that you don't see many gay characters in family entertainment. Sure, there are sometimes minor characters that fit the old stereotypes, but you pretty much never see a prince with a prince or princess with a princess.

Now, one can argue that this is just a reflection of the fact that most people do not belong to that group, but that is also true of many other minority groups that do get explicit representation in family entertainment.

One could also say that the matter is "too adult" for such entertainment, but is it really more inappropriate for a child to watch a prince seeking a prince instead of a princess?

When do you think Disney will have its first gay lead character? When will we see a princess seeking a princess? 10 years from now? 20? Never?
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:26 PM   #2
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(Note: I wasn't sure whether this belonged in the Gay and Lesbian section, but since that section's description says it is about Disney experiences, I figured this would be a better fit. If I am wrong about that, I apologize and hopefully a mod will move it.)

It is a fact that you don't see many gay characters in family entertainment. Sure, there are sometimes minor characters that fit the old stereotypes, but you pretty much never see a prince with a prince or princess with a princess.

Now, one can argue that this is just a reflection of the fact that most people do not belong to that group, but that is also true of many other minority groups that do get explicit representation in family entertainment.

One could also say that the matter is "too adult" for such entertainment, but is it really more inappropriate for a child to watch a prince seeking a prince instead of a princess?

When do you think Disney will have its first gay lead character? When will we see a princess seeking a princess? 10 years from now? 20? Never?
I dunno why they would need a gay character?
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:31 PM   #3
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I dunno why they would need a gay character?
Well, in all honesty there are people who would say the same thing about black, latino, asian, etc characters. Because there are gay people, like black, latino, asian, etc people who are Disney fans and would like to have their culture represented in their films.

To answer the OP.... it's going to be a long, long, time to see a gay main character.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:31 PM   #4
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I dunno why they would need a gay character?
We have an Asian princess, a black one, a Native American, a red head, a Middle Eastern princess....maybe it is time Disney had a lesbian one?

Probably won't happen, though.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:35 PM   #5
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Look at the big hub bub over Princess and the Frog, and Tiana being the first black princess of the Disney line up. There have been other black characters, but never a princess.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:14 PM   #6
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(Note: I wasn't sure whether this belonged in the Gay and Lesbian section, but since that section's description says it is about Disney experiences, I figured this would be a better fit. If I am wrong about that, I apologize and hopefully a mod will move it.)

It is a fact that you don't see many gay characters in family entertainment. Sure, there are sometimes minor characters that fit the old stereotypes, but you pretty much never see a prince with a prince or princess with a princess.

Now, one can argue that this is just a reflection of the fact that most people do not belong to that group, but that is also true of many other minority groups that do get explicit representation in family entertainment.

One could also say that the matter is "too adult" for such entertainment, but is it really more inappropriate for a child to watch a prince seeking a prince instead of a princess?

When do you think Disney will have its first gay lead character? When will we see a princess seeking a princess? 10 years from now? 20? Never?
We don't do prince 'n princesses, we do Kings 'n Queens.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:20 PM   #7
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We don't do prince 'n princesses, we do Kings 'n Queens.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:21 PM   #8
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Honestly, that is a situation I would not even want to try and explain to my small child. It would be a really bad move on Disney's part.

I don't get this. Why would it be so hard or bad to explain?
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:22 PM   #9
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I can't see Disney wanting to deal with the fallout from that decision. Disney is in the business of making money, not starting controversy and like it or not, this would cause controversy.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:29 PM   #10
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A couple of the previous posts in this thread are exactly why I think that, sadly, it will be at least another decade before Disney even has a minor character in one of their family movies that is gay. I would love to see that part of reality portrayed in the fantasy world of Disney though.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:29 PM   #11
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I can't see Disney wanting to deal with the fallout from that decision. Disney is in the business of making money, not starting controversy and like it or not, this would cause controversy.
I agree....I could see maybe them doing a gay character...but not a prince and prince and princess and princess.....

And would this be not more to appease the adults than the children?
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:35 PM   #12
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I agree....I could see maybe them doing a gay character...but not a prince and prince and princess and princess.....

And would this be not more to appease the adults than the children?
I agree that it would be more about the adults than the kids. I doubt that young kids would really care one way or the other but sadly too many adults would and some would likely make a big fuss about it.
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:38 PM   #13
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Honestly, that is a situation I would not even want to try and explain to my small child. It would be a really bad move on Disney's part.
Huh? I can't believe that in almost 2012, we are still here...but we are here because people still find it wrong or bad, and that is truly sad to me, that my baby boy of 4, has more understanding, love and tolerance than so many adults.

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I don't get this. Why would it be so hard or bad to explain?
My youngest child at 4, knows that there are many different types of families in the world, and so I still don't understand this line of thinking that certain familes are preferred over others.

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A couple of the previous posts in this thread are exactly why I think that, sadly, it will be at least another decade before Disney even has a minor character in one of their family movies that is gay. I would love to see that part of reality portrayed in the fantasy world of Disney though.
Exactly.

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Old 11-20-2011, 03:46 PM   #14
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Well, they won't show Song of the South for fear of offending... I doubt they are going to have openly gay characters for fear of offending.

It will be a long time- but it will happen! Once people stop being afraid of our differences and start embracing our sameness....
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:47 PM   #15
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Disney is a business, and they know that a move like this would lead to too much negative publicity. Yes, it is sad, but I have a coworker who loves to tell me that she will never take her kids to Disney because they are "too supportive of homoseshuls". She's heard all the Gay Days stories, and doesn't care that it isn't a Disney sponsored event. There are many more like her.....

You should have seen her face when I was talking about my kids, and how funny my son is when I tell him (repeatedly-want my kids to know it is true) that I will love him no matter who he loves, regardless of race or sex. (He moans and says "mama, I like girls!!!!!) She turned to her daughter (we are teachers and this was after school) and told her that wasn't the case with her and didn't speak to me for a few days. Oh well.........
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