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Old 02-18-2013, 12:36 PM   #3496
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Absolutely. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. The actions Rumple took the day of the battle ensured that his son would grow up without a father, because of how Rumple interpreted the prophecy.

I wonder whether Rumple can still see the future (when he has magic)? The seer thanked him, so I thought the transfer of power took.
I think he can, I'm pretty sure in the episode when Rumple was waiting to see his son Henry talked about how Rumple can see the future.
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Absolutely. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. The actions Rumple took the day of the battle ensured that his son would grow up without a father, because of how Rumple interpreted the prophecy.

I wonder whether Rumple can still see the future (when he has magic)? The seer thanked him, so I thought the transfer of power took.
Agreed. He took the prediction as he was going to die in battle. Which is why he injured himself. That action was what eventually made him lose his son. It was the first step in the chain of events which caused Bae to grow up without a Father.

I think he can still see into the future. The reason why is when Rumple was talking to Henry he was trying to explain how the future is a puzzle. I think he can see the future but the future changes based on people's actions. That's why there are the missing pieces in the puzzle.
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Sorry, I just found this tread and now people who can possibly answer my questions. Do you think that the seer was right when he said Bae would grow up without a father, even though Rumple didn't die Bae still grew up without him?
The seer never said Rumple would die. He just assumed that. When he asked her if he was going to die, she didn't answer. She did say that he would help her in the future, which would mean that he wasn't going to die the next day. The seer never saw Rumple's death. I think she manipulated him to send him on the path that would lead to Rumple taking her power/burden.
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Does anyone know why Mary Margaret and James said Regina is Henry's step great grandmother? It was when MM told James about Bae being Henry's father. James said that would make Regina his step grandmother and MM corrected him and said she'd be the step great grandmother (and adoptive mother).
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I was so sure that Neil was not Bae. Guess I blew that one. Should have trusted my instincts that Henry was Bae's son from day one.

And I did love David's comment that Thanksgiving dinner would be interesting with that crazy family tree.
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Does anyone know why Mary Margaret and James said Regina is Henry's step great grandmother? It was when MM told James about Bae being Henry's father. James said that would make Regina his step grandmother and MM corrected him and said she'd be the step great grandmother (and adoptive mother).
Regina is MM's stepmother. MM is Henry's grandmother. Somehow it'll make sense one day.
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Regina is MM's stepmother. MM is Henry's grandmother. Somehow it'll make sense one day.
I wasn't sure if that was it though. They were talking about Rumple being Henry's grandfather and then brought up Regina. Maybe its just because it was James/David and it takes him a while to figure things out.
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Does anyone know why Mary Margaret and James said Regina is Henry's step great grandmother? It was when MM told James about Bae being Henry's father. James said that would make Regina his step grandmother and MM corrected him and said she'd be the step great grandmother (and adoptive mother).
Because Mary Margaret is Henry's Grandmother and Regina is her (MM's) step-mother, therefore making her the step-great-grandmother.

Is anyone else getting confused by all this? Took me a minute to straighten it all out (and I think I have it right -someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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Because Mary Margaret is Henry's Grandmother and Regina is her (MM's) step-mother, therefore making her the step-great-grandmother.

Is anyone else getting confused by all this? Took me a minute to straighten it all out (and I think I have it right -someone correct me if I'm wrong)
I think you're right, but why did it seem like David and MM were just discovering this. How did discovering that Bae is Henry's father change anything.
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I wasn't sure if that was it though. They were talking about Rumple being Henry's grandfather and then brought up Regina. Maybe its just because it was James/David and it takes him a while to figure things out.
I had the same thought process. I was thinking that the way he said it made it seem like all of a sudden Regina was more to Henry than before. Then I figured they were just listing Henry's convoluted family tree.

I did chuckle when James/David said something along the lines of "but I'm his grandfather" and MM was like, "You can have more than one."
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I think you're right, but why did it seem like David and MM were just discovering this. How did discovering that Bae is Henry's father change anything.
It makes a blood link with Henry, MM/David/Emma, and Rumple.
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Because Mary Margaret is Henry's Grandmother and Regina is her (MM's) step-mother, therefore making her the step-great-grandmother.

Is anyone else getting confused by all this? Took me a minute to straighten it all out (and I think I have it right -someone correct me if I'm wrong)
And even though it wasn't mentioned last night, Cora would be Henry's step-great-great-grandmother. Poor kid! He's going to need LOTS of sessions with Archie!
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I'd really like to revisit some of the characters from last season. We haven't heard anything about Cinderella. Or the Mad Hatter.
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AND....What in the heck ever happened to Pinocchio? He was laying on the bed and then we never saw him again!
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