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Old 02-11-2013, 09:39 PM   #3436
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The preview made me question if Bea is Henry's father. The preview said this could be "the biggest bombshell yet," but the rumor has been around since season one. It is expected, not a bombshell. With a preview like that I would be disappointing if the bombshell ended up being something many assumed for so long.

Yes, Rumple no longer has magic. He lost it when he left town. I think his cowardice is coming back. His face on the plane reminded me of the episodes that show him before he became the Dark One. He found courage in his power and without it he will return to being the coward he used to be. Or at least that's how I saw it.
Yes it has been assumed by people who obsess over the show like us but I don't think that the average viewer will see it coming.

Regarding Rumple and losing his magic, isn't that what Bae wanted? He wanted his dad to give up magic and power.
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Ok, I said it about 200 pages ago, but it bears repeating. Unless the writers have ZERO sense on continuity, Neil and Bae cannot be the same person.
Rumpelstiltskin was already The Dark One when we first meet Jiminey in human form. At that time, Geppetto was only a child. So unless the magic bean made a time portal as well as a realm-jumping portal, Bae has to be at least in his 60's (aging compared to Geppetto)

Now as for the "biggest bombshell ever," did anyone else catch this in the TV Guide interview?
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The Hunstman is returning. Is this via a flashback in Storybrooke?
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So could Emma's surprise be from running into an incarnation of Graham? The wording of "How the Huntsman returns" is an interesting phrasing, no?
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:08 AM   #3438
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My theory is that Neal could be Bae AND Peter Pan. If he went to Neverland first he wouldn't have grown up for a while.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:23 AM   #3439
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My theory is that Neal could be Bae AND Peter Pan. If he went to Neverland first he wouldn't have grown up for a while.
That would make sense, Hook hates Rumple, therefore hating Rumple's son Peter Pan.

I'm missing pieces to the puzzle though. I always thought Rumple's son and Pinocchio were about the same age. I don't remember any scenes where Geppetto was a child when Rumple got his magic.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:37 AM   #3440
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My theory is that Neal could be Bae AND Peter Pan. If he went to Neverland first he wouldn't have grown up for a while.
It's a good thought. But Bae would've had to have come here (or someplace like here) 1st, and then go to Neverland. The whole point of him going through the portal was to take Rumple to a world without magic. That would mean that he would've had to have found another portal, to get to Neverland, in a world that didn't have magic.

But not to dispair. I have an adendum.

If Tink found him in his new world, and THEN took him to Neverland...

It's a little convoluted, and busy, but can explained.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:26 AM   #3441
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Ok, I said it about 200 pages ago, but it bears repeating. Unless the writers have ZERO sense on continuity, Neil and Bae cannot be the same person.
Rumpelstiltskin was already The Dark One when we first meet Jiminey in human form. At that time, Geppetto was only a child. So unless the magic bean made a time portal as well as a realm-jumping portal, Bae has to be at least in his 60's (aging compared to Geppetto)
There's already continuity issues. Per the "official" Rumple wiki description, he was 300 years old when the curse happened, (presumably because of becoming the Dark One?) however in that case Bae would be long dead of old age in this world.

Even not accounting for Rumple's presumed advanced age, you have the timeline of events involving Hook and Bae's mother. Since Rumple didn't get involved with Jiminy/Geppetto until after he became the Dark One and Hook was involved with Rumple before he became the Dark One, Hook should be about 90 years old. My guess is that they will cover any continuity issues with a general "time is different from one world to the next" After all, we already know that time stood still in Storybrooke for everyone other than Henry.
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Another twist from the preview- they showed Regina, Cora, and Hook at Hold's shop with the dagger. If Rumple doesn't have power anymore then who do you think will control the dark one?
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:11 PM   #3443
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There's already continuity issues. Per the "official" Rumple wiki description, he was 300 years old when the curse happened, (presumably because of becoming the Dark One?) however in that case Bae would be long dead of old age in this world.

Even not accounting for Rumple's presumed advanced age, you have the timeline of events involving Hook and Bae's mother. Since Rumple didn't get involved with Jiminy/Geppetto until after he became the Dark One and Hook was involved with Rumple before he became the Dark One, Hook should be about 90 years old. My guess is that they will cover any continuity issues with a general "time is different from one world to the next" After all, we already know that time stood still in Storybrooke for everyone other than Henry.
The Hook thing can easily be explained by the fact that Hook went to Neverland where he didn't age.

As for the Bae thing, since the method of arriving in this world was different, the timeline doesn't have to be the same. One arrived by good magic (Bae) and the other by a CURSE written by R specifically to find his son. R wouldn't have written a curse that would get him here 300 years too late. He'd write it to get back to Bae, regardless of the amount of time that passed in the fairytale world.
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Another twist from the preview- they showed Regina, Cora, and Hook at Hold's shop with the dagger. If Rumple doesn't have power anymore then who do you think will control the dark one?
I think Charming will become the dark one.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:24 PM   #3445
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When Bae went through the portal created by the bean, the blue fairy mentioned it could send a person through space *and* time. I also think Rumple set up the curse to send them to our world around the same time that Bae arrived.
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Here's a thought...the bean came from the Blue Fairy. The wardrobe idea was the Blue Fairys idea. If Bae and Emma met up in our world later on maybe its more than a coincidence that the ended up in the same time?

I want to know how Rumple got Henry if he couldn't leave Storybrooke before and I'm still curious to know what was in the box August showed Neal.
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Here's a thought...the bean came from the Blue Fairy. The wardrobe idea was the Blue Fairys idea. If Bae and Emma met up in our world later on maybe its more than a coincidence that the ended up in the same time?

I want to know how Rumple got Henry if he couldn't leave Storybrooke before and I'm still curious to know what was in the box August showed Neal.
Ok, so Neal took one look in the box and immediately trusted August and understood how "important" Emma was. So that means Neal knew something about magic and the Fairy Tale world and the importance of whatever was in the box. So what's small enough to fit in the box and yet significant enough that Neal would know it related to magic? You might be right - beans. Or - here's a wild thought - maybe Rumpel's dagger? Or a fairy? August wouldn't be running around with a heart in there, would he?
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Ok, so Neal took one look in the box and immediately trusted August and understood how "important" Emma was. So that means Neal knew something about magic and the Fairy Tale world and the importance of whatever was in the box. So what's small enough to fit in the box and yet significant enough that Neal would know it related to magic? You might be right - beans. Or - here's a wild thought - maybe Rumpel's dagger? Or a fairy? August wouldn't be running around with a heart in there, would he?
Couldn't have been the dagger -- August came to Storybrooke to get the dagger, and the box incident was before that.

I was thinking fairy dust?
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The other thing is August had to know who Neal is or else how would he have known Neal would understand what he was seeing? If he showed just some average guy a dagger or fairy dust they probably wouldn't have even known what they were looking at.

Where the heck is August anyways?
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