Re-categorization of Disney Dream & Fantasy rooms eff. Oct 18, 2011! - The DIS Discussion Forums

HallsofVA · 10-12-2011, 03:31 PM

My TA just posted this about re-categorization of staterooms on Disney Dream and Fantasy.

NOTE - The emails from DCL posted in subsequent pages don't seem to mention the 20th date mentioned below. I don't know if the 20th was a typo or anything in the original message posted, or reflects an enforcement date that isn't widely published but designed to reflect a grace period or something. Personally, I'd contact DCL or your travel agent before I counted on them honoring something booked on the 19th or 20th, or you can be safe and make any bookings or adjustments prior to the 18th which is the date in the emails.

Effective October 18, 2011, Disney Cruise Line will be re-categorizing 120 staterooms due to the unique features of each stateroom. Reservations booked prior to October 20 will be price protected if the resulting change is a higher category, but will receive a rate adjustment if the resulting change is for a lower category. The five new categories are:

4E – Deluxe Family Oceanview Stateroom with Verandah – Oversized Verandah
5E – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom with Verandah – Oversized Verandah, some with solid white wall
7A – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom with Navigator Verandah, Undersized or Obstructed Verandah
9C – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom, One Porthole, Obstructed View
9D – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom, One Porthole, Obstructed View – limited view of ocean

Here is a list of the staterooms affected by the change:

Previously Category 9A

Now Category 9C: 7000 – 7004, 7500 – 7502, 8000 – 8004, 8500 – 8502

Now Category 9D: 6000 – 6006, 6500 – 6504, 7006 & 7504, 8006 & 8504

Previously Category 6B

Now Category 7A: 5180 & 5680, 5188 & 5688, 6178 & 6678, 7182 & 7680

Now Category 5E: 6190 & 6690, 6192, 7190 – 7194, 7688 – 7690

Previously Category 6A

Now Category 7A: 8176 & 8674, 9164 & 9664

Now Category 5E: 8184 – 8188, 8682 – 8684, 9170 – 9176, 9670 – 9674, 10158 – 10166, 10658 – 10664

Previously Category 5E

Now Category 7A: 5024 & 5524

Now Category 4E: 5026 – 5052, 5150 – 5164, 5526 – 5552, 5650 – 5664

Previously Category 5C

Now Category 7A: 7022 & 7520, 7170 & 7668

Previously Category 5B

Now Category 7A: 8022 & 8520, 8164 & 8662

Previously Category 5A

Now Category 7A: 9012 & 9512, 9152 & 9652

HallsofVA · 10-12-2011, 03:36 PM

This was especially exciting for me, since it was just under a year ago when the Dream first floated out of the building dock, and we could finally see some of the pluses and minuses of different staterooms. I started the "Special Rooms" thread (link in siggie) that highlighted some of those rooms at that point, and became a good place for discussion about various rooms.

Thanks to everyone who complained about the problem rooms, which I'm sure led to the downgrading of those rooms!

Interestingly enough, my room on the 8/16/11 Dream sailing (8006) was downgraded from 9A to 9D, while my room on the Fantasy MV (8684) is being upgraded from 6A to 5E, so I ended up going both directions.

Wendy&Grumpy · 10-12-2011, 03:44 PM

Yay! We have 5652 & 5654 this weekend on the Dream and 5650 on the Fantasy next April!

We knew what we were getting when we reserved them and now it feels even more like we got a bonus since we won't be paying the higher rate!!

Wazzo · 10-12-2011, 04:09 PM

Yay! This is great news! I'm very excited to see that the obstructed verandahs are recategorized. Now I won't be staring at pictures before booking to see if my view is blocked.

Thanks for sharing the news!

Happy99 · 10-12-2011, 04:23 PM

This means we won't see any 2013 itineraries until after this date. I am sure they don't want to book people for 2013 and then have to change all the categories for those affected

simbasmom2 · 10-12-2011, 04:43 PM

So, I have room 5052 on the Fantasy. It is currently 5E. It looks like it will then be 4E. So I am getting a "deal" right? Not a refund? Is this a new category? I tried to look up prices for a 4E and couldn't pull any up. TIA

tinkerone · 10-12-2011, 04:46 PM

i'm a bit surprised not to see 5666. we have this booked on the fantasy and after seeing pics of how the veranda of the next cabin looks in, well, lets just say i will be keeping the curtain drawn most of the time....

to me its obstructed. jmo.

flexsmom · 10-12-2011, 05:40 PM

I'm glad to see this being done.

We sailed in 9012 on the Dream last March. It was a 5A, now being recategorized to a 7A, so that should end up being a fairly decent price difference.

While I'm disappointed we paid what we did compared to the other 5As, at least it is being addressed now. In fairness to DCL, while they didn't offer any comp, I didn't ask for any when I sent in pictures of the veranda compared to other 5As, along with my opinion that this one really needed to be recategorized. I was thinking "A" to "E" or something like that! At least they did send a "thanks for your opinion" and the pay-off now is that they clearly did pay attention with a change from "5" to "7".

collectoraholic · 10-12-2011, 05:48 PM

Ahhhh, I just posted this as well. When I started to make my post, nothing had been posted yet. Guess I took too long typing. LOL!

mmouse37 · 10-12-2011, 05:51 PM

I am surprised 8006 and 8504, 7006 and 7504 were downgraded.....I felt that the huge extra space of the interior more than outweighed the semi-limited porthole view. It works out for us....we have both 8006 and 7504 on our June 30th Fantasy cruise so it will be nice to get a bit back.

MJ

jetskigrl · 10-12-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy99

This means we won't see any 2013 itineraries until after this date. I am sure they don't want to book people for 2013 and then have to change all the categories for those affected

That was what I was thinking also. And I believe I read that they announced the bookings for 2012 on October 19th last year. That would correspond day-wise also (on a Tuesday).

Oh, but I just re-read this part:
Effective October 18, 2011, Disney Cruise Line will be re-categorizing 120 staterooms due to the unique features of each stateroom. Reservations booked prior to October 20 will be price protected if the resulting change is a higher category, but will receive a rate adjustment if the resulting change is for a lower category.

So booking probably won't open until the 20th.

mmouse37 · 10-12-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collectoraholic

Ahhhh, I just posted this as well. When I started to make my post, nothing had been posted yet. Guess I took too long typing. LOL!

Must be a sloooow typer!!! This was posted at 4:31 LOL!!

MJ

jenseib · 10-12-2011, 06:47 PM

You are too fast for me. I was just going to post this. Also adding

If you are currently booked in one of the affected staterooms on or after Oct. 20, you will receive a letter or email notification. If you are re-categorized to a higher stateroom category, the current rate is protected. Clients re-categorized to a lower stateroom category will receive a rate adjustment and/or refund if the reservation is paid in full.

WhitGB · 10-12-2011, 06:52 PM

I am in 7560 on the Dream Oct 23rd cruise and got a $20 credit today. Really no idea why...

I thought it may have been due to the reclassifying but I dont see my room anywere.

mmouse37 · 10-12-2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhitGB

I am in 7560 on the Dream Oct 23rd cruise and got a $20 credit today. Really no idea why...

I thought it may have been due to the reclassifying but I dont see my room anywere.

Sounds more like a refund in gov't/port taxes or fees. They usually are those small credits.

MJ

10-12-2011, 03:31 PM	#1
HallsofVA DIS Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herndon, VA Posts: 4,407	Re-categorization of Disney Dream & Fantasy rooms eff. Oct 18, 2011! My TA just posted this about re-categorization of staterooms on Disney Dream and Fantasy. NOTE - The emails from DCL posted in subsequent pages don't seem to mention the 20th date mentioned below. I don't know if the 20th was a typo or anything in the original message posted, or reflects an enforcement date that isn't widely published but designed to reflect a grace period or something. Personally, I'd contact DCL or your travel agent before I counted on them honoring something booked on the 19th or 20th, or you can be safe and make any bookings or adjustments prior to the 18th which is the date in the emails. Effective October 18, 2011, Disney Cruise Line will be re-categorizing 120 staterooms due to the unique features of each stateroom. Reservations booked prior to October 20 will be price protected if the resulting change is a higher category, but will receive a rate adjustment if the resulting change is for a lower category. The five new categories are: 4E – Deluxe Family Oceanview Stateroom with Verandah – Oversized Verandah 5E – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom with Verandah – Oversized Verandah, some with solid white wall 7A – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom with Navigator Verandah, Undersized or Obstructed Verandah 9C – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom, One Porthole, Obstructed View 9D – Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom, One Porthole, Obstructed View – limited view of ocean Here is a list of the staterooms affected by the change: Previously Category 9A Now Category 9C: 7000 – 7004, 7500 – 7502, 8000 – 8004, 8500 – 8502 Now Category 9D: 6000 – 6006, 6500 – 6504, 7006 & 7504, 8006 & 8504 Previously Category 6B Now Category 7A: 5180 & 5680, 5188 & 5688, 6178 & 6678, 7182 & 7680 Now Category 5E: 6190 & 6690, 6192, 7190 – 7194, 7688 – 7690 Previously Category 6A Now Category 7A: 8176 & 8674, 9164 & 9664 Now Category 5E: 8184 – 8188, 8682 – 8684, 9170 – 9176, 9670 – 9674, 10158 – 10166, 10658 – 10664 Previously Category 5E Now Category 7A: 5024 & 5524 Now Category 4E: 5026 – 5052, 5150 – 5164, 5526 – 5552, 5650 – 5664 Previously Category 5C Now Category 7A: 7022 & 7520, 7170 & 7668 Previously Category 5B Now Category 7A: 8022 & 8520, 8164 & 8662 Previously Category 5A Now Category 7A: 9012 & 9512, 9152 & 9652 __________________ Next Stop - 08/17/13 Med Cruise Previous Stops -11/17/12 Fantasy Thanksgiving Eastern to San Juan; 3/31/12 Fantasy MV; 8/21-26/11 WDW Poly;08/16/11 5-nt Dreamy Double-Dip!;8/13-16/11 Universal;09/18/10 14-nt WB Transatlantic; 1/10/10-1/14/10 Bahamas, 1/6/10-1/09/10 AKL, 12/12/09 Western (Cat 3 upgrade); 12/06/08 Eastern (upgraded to the Roy Suite!); 12/03/05 Western (upgrade to Cat 3) Dream/Fantasy Special Rooms Thread Last edited by HallsofVA; 10-16-2011 at 07:12 PM.

10-12-2011, 03:36 PM	#2
HallsofVA DIS Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Herndon, VA Posts: 4,407	This was especially exciting for me, since it was just under a year ago when the Dream first floated out of the building dock, and we could finally see some of the pluses and minuses of different staterooms. I started the "Special Rooms" thread (link in siggie) that highlighted some of those rooms at that point, and became a good place for discussion about various rooms. Thanks to everyone who complained about the problem rooms, which I'm sure led to the downgrading of those rooms! Interestingly enough, my room on the 8/16/11 Dream sailing (8006) was downgraded from 9A to 9D, while my room on the Fantasy MV (8684) is being upgraded from 6A to 5E, so I ended up going both directions. __________________ Next Stop - 08/17/13 Med Cruise Previous Stops -11/17/12 Fantasy Thanksgiving Eastern to San Juan; 3/31/12 Fantasy MV; 8/21-26/11 WDW Poly;08/16/11 5-nt Dreamy Double-Dip!;8/13-16/11 Universal;09/18/10 14-nt WB Transatlantic; 1/10/10-1/14/10 Bahamas, 1/6/10-1/09/10 AKL, 12/12/09 Western (Cat 3 upgrade); 12/06/08 Eastern (upgraded to the Roy Suite!); 12/03/05 Western (upgrade to Cat 3) Dream/Fantasy Special Rooms Thread

10-12-2011, 03:44 PM	#3
Wendy&Grumpy Is there any better place to live than Mickey's backyard? Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gotha, Florida Posts: 1,220	Yay! We have 5652 & 5654 this weekend on the Dream and 5650 on the Fantasy next April! We knew what we were getting when we reserved them and now it feels even more like we got a bonus since we won't be paying the higher rate!! __________________ Etsy/Ebay: PixieDustedStitches One should always have a getaway to look forward to - even if it's just one night!! Fort Wilderness December 2012 ~ Disney Dream October 2012 ~ Animal Kingdom Lodge August/September 2012 ~ Contemporary July 2012 ~ Coronado Springs May 2012 ~ Disney Fantasy April 2012 ~ Disney Dream January 2012 ~ Port Orleans French Quarter December 2011 ~ Boardwalk Inn November 2011 ~ Disney Dream October 2011 ~ Wilderness Lodge August/September 2011 ~ Caribbean Beach April 2011 ~ Beach Club March 2011 ~ Disney Dream February 2011 ~ Pop Century December 2010 ~ All Star Music July/August 2008 ~ Villas at the Disney Institute December 1997

10-12-2011, 04:43 PM	#6
simbasmom2 Just waitin around till boarding time! Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 2 hours (by plane) away from WDW Posts: 1,026	So, I have room 5052 on the Fantasy. It is currently 5E. It looks like it will then be 4E. So I am getting a "deal" right? Not a refund? Is this a new category? I tried to look up prices for a 4E and couldn't pull any up. TIA __________________

10-12-2011, 04:46 PM	#7
tinkerone DIS Veteran Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,147	i'm a bit surprised not to see 5666. we have this booked on the fantasy and after seeing pics of how the veranda of the next cabin looks in, well, lets just say i will be keeping the curtain drawn most of the time.... to me its obstructed. jmo. __________________

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10-12-2011, 04:09 PM	#4
Wazzo Is in need of a No Way Jose! Just the unput I was looking for I'm the undecided party Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,049	Yay! This is great news! I'm very excited to see that the obstructed verandahs are recategorized. Now I won't be staring at pictures before booking to see if my view is blocked. Thanks for sharing the news!

10-12-2011, 04:23 PM	#5
Happy99 DIS Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 841	This means we won't see any 2013 itineraries until after this date. I am sure they don't want to book people for 2013 and then have to change all the categories for those affected

10-12-2011, 05:40 PM	#8
flexsmom DIS Veteran But ... I'm a DVC member! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Alexandria, Virginia Posts: 1,937	I'm glad to see this being done. We sailed in 9012 on the Dream last March. It was a 5A, now being recategorized to a 7A, so that should end up being a fairly decent price difference. While I'm disappointed we paid what we did compared to the other 5As, at least it is being addressed now. In fairness to DCL, while they didn't offer any comp, I didn't ask for any when I sent in pictures of the veranda compared to other 5As, along with my opinion that this one really needed to be recategorized. I was thinking "A" to "E" or something like that! At least they did send a "thanks for your opinion" and the pay-off now is that they clearly did pay attention with a change from "5" to "7".

10-12-2011, 05:48 PM	#9
collectoraholic Is it time to sail yet? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Not close enuf to the Magic! Posts: 982	Ahhhh, I just posted this as well. When I started to make my post, nothing had been posted yet. Guess I took too long typing. LOL!

10-12-2011, 05:51 PM	#10
mmouse37 Mickey for Me! Likes surprises Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Too far from the Magic!! Posts: 24,916	I am surprised 8006 and 8504, 7006 and 7504 were downgraded.....I felt that the huge extra space of the interior more than outweighed the semi-limited porthole view. It works out for us....we have both 8006 and 7504 on our June 30th Fantasy cruise so it will be nice to get a bit back. MJ __________________ *Co-Moderator of the Cruise Board - 29 DCL Cruises and Counting!* - Sailed on the official Maiden Voyage of the Magic (July 30, 1998) and official Maiden Voyage of the Dream (January 26, 2011)“DON'T BE SAD IT'S OVER, BE HAPPY IT HAPPENED!!

10-12-2011, 06:47 PM	#13
jenseib Mommy to Claire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 23,317	You are too fast for me. I was just going to post this. Also adding If you are currently booked in one of the affected staterooms on or after Oct. 20, you will receive a letter or email notification. If you are re-categorized to a higher stateroom category, the current rate is protected. Clients re-categorized to a lower stateroom category will receive a rate adjustment and/or refund if the reservation is paid in full. __________________ Oh the Places We Go, The People We SeeI LOVE Comedians with Guitars...You didn't tell me that PartYou can take the girl out of Disney, BUT..Universal Adventures of Dreams and an Expanding WorldA Hop, NO Skip, and Many Mishaps to a Disney DreamSo This is What a Dream Tastes likeDairy Farmer's Wife IS going to Disney in March/April3Rd Times a Charm

10-12-2011, 06:52 PM	#14
WhitGB Mouseketeer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 464	I am in 7560 on the Dream Oct 23rd cruise and got a $20 credit today. Really no idea why... I thought it may have been due to the reclassifying but I dont see my room anywere. __________________ Me DH DD9 DD6

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