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Old 09-14-2011, 10:16 PM   #286
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Love the old stuff about Disneyland. At that time, I was waiting to meet the cast of Shake It Up. I was there for about 3 1/2 hours
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WOW That is vintage DL.


And I've been on Skyways and 20,000 leagues under the sea .....a long, long, time ago......in a faraway galaxy......
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Nice update! I never get tired of the vintage Disney photos. Just think, 50 years from now, folks will be looking at vintage photos of the Carsland construction.
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LOVE all the vintage pics!

And I love how all the folks back then dressed up.
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Very nice photos from the Wonderful World of Vintage of DL. It would have been neat if we got to see and hear about WDW, but it was neat to see the videos of DL.
Yeah, they said that there just isn't this kind of footage for WDW because by that time they had moved to video, and video just doesn't hold up like film. Evidently it degrades over time so most of the footage is now useless.

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Love the old stuff about Disneyland. At that time, I was waiting to meet the cast of Shake It Up. I was there for about 3 1/2 hours
Wow! That was one crazy line!

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WOW That is vintage DL.


And I've been on Skyways and 20,000 leagues under the sea .....a long, long, time ago......in a faraway galaxy......
I know I've been on the Skyways, I'm pretty sure I got to ride 20,000 leagues under the sea, but I have been on Nemo Submarines!

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Very cool! I never get tired of watching them!

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Nice update! I never get tired of the vintage Disney photos. Just think, 50 years from now, folks will be looking at vintage photos of the Carsland construction.
I know, isn't that funny? I wonder what we'll be riding then?

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LOVE all the vintage pics!

And I love how all the folks back then dressed up.
I know! I often go to the parks all gussied up and people wonder!
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So back to the vintage Disney Footage. This is construction of the first high-rise Disneyland Hotel, if you know your DL History, you will know that the first hotel was two stories and I think it had only 24 units. People thought it was crazy to build a hotel next to a theme park, why would anyone want to stay outside a theme park? Can anyone help me out as to what they are building in the foreground?



I believe this is the staircase in New Orleans Square



Next they showed a few shots of the building of POTC. Here they are setting up the Pirate Bedchamber



This is the pirate ship in the scene outside the town.



Now on the sails they needed to add cannonball fire to make it realistic, evidently they donít do it this way any more because Tony Baxter was flabbergasted that the guy just whipped out a blow torch and began searing the sails.



OK, all you geeks out there who is this? Roy? They told us on the day and thatís why I snapped the pic, but now I donít remember?



Evidently this is the opening ceremony for POTC, Pirates bust down the doors



And here were some of the first riders



Iím guessing this is construction for the Carousel of Progress (Mission to Mars, Innoventions)







Now this is the real part that made it all worth it for me. Those of you who followed my Destination-D40 TR might recall that there was a segment in there on the Disneyworld that never was. Because of the nature of the presentation, they asked us to put our cameras away. The highlight of that was a ride that never came to be at WDW. You see Disney never planned to put POTC in the MK, they had planned for the Western River Expedition and it was a five in one ride complex. For the same reason there is no New Orleans square at WDW they thought something about the Old West would be more interesting. So here it is the Western River Expedition.

The problem was that when the MK opened all the guests complained, ďWhere is the Pirate RideĒ there were so many requests for Pirates that they junked the whole idea and just put in Pirates.

So before we start our journey, here are a few shots and explanations. This is concept art for the cowboys.



Now this is a concept for the ride complex. No one really knows today what all the various rides were. There was the flume ride on the top. The Painted Desert was another section and this was to be inspired by Mary Blair. The Western Expedition would be inside and who knows what the other two were.



This model shows how the three parts of the ride itself would work together.



Here are some concept shots including the Mary Blair color palettes.







Your journey begins through some caverns complete with animal shaped stalactites and stalagmites









Then you ride through the desert (more Mary Blair)





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[Continute from Previous Post]

Cue the ominous music on the horizon



These must be the gents that you see on the Prairie





More foreshadowing



You see these scenes along the trail







The women folk are traveling to town



But thereís trouble a foot







After we make it through the danger, we find the sleepy little town.



Much like Pirates, it appears that cowboys enjoy their women and wine







Then there is the tame side of town



The puritanical women



However, they canít seem to keep things from getting out of hand.



I imagine these gals would be the equivalent of the Red Head



Even the Indians are in on the party



This is a ďbetween scenes slide but it kinda shows how the Indians and the settlers are frustrated.



Here are the rootin tootin cowboy shooters!



Iím not exactly sure whatís going on here, but someone is being hung out to dry.



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[Continued from Previous Post]

The bad guys make a reappearance.



I guess itís up to the women folk to save the day (as usual)



With a little help from the comical old man



The Indians are neutral



Hereís how it all fits together



Heís waiting around for business to pick up!



The aftermath





The Indians save the day







But youíre not out of the woods yet.











And then thatís it! I would imagine that you ride off into the Sunset, but I donít have any more pictures so that must be all of it!

They had one final thing for us and I canít even believe that Disney was involved in this, but I thought it was hilarious. This guy come on a TV commercial telling kids that they can get a Free copy of this picture of Davy Crockett.



All they need to do is come to their local [insert car dealership name here] dealer and have their parents test drive a brand new



And they could be entered into a contest for an all expense paid trip to



Can you imagine the kids bugging their parents?

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So they ended up the presentation with a drive down Harbor Blvd.















So I thought I would pop in here with a couple of pics that I stole from mvf-m11c, although itís much easier just to say Bret. Now remember I told you about the crazy queues? Here is the queue from the Carsland presentation. I think this was the one that most people wanted to get into (besides the Arena presentations) and people were prepared to wait all day to do it.

So this was when the queue was just forming. The door on the left is where they led us out of the room when it was time to move to the other room. The door on the right is where people entered to get in the queue. If you start at the beginning of the line and count about 50 or so people back and look just to the left underneath the blurry blue light, you will see Fran in her scooter reading a book! This must have been when I was out getting my coffee!



Behind us, the line went to the back of the room and then snaked back through these columns



Eventually the room got completely full



Iíd say that I spent about six hours in lines like this that day.

When the queue rooms were still full (ie they hadnít loaded up the show room for the next show) the line for not the next, but the following show had to wait in the hallway. This is what it was like. I do have to say the 2011 Expo was much better than 2009 because EVERY line was like this in 2009!



Gotta Run for now, final ďFond FarewellĒ and Bonus Food Porn still to come!
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WOW! Massive update indeed....and I always wondered why there wasn't a New Orleans at WDW.....but I LOVE that Wild West montage. It would so perfectly fit in with Big Thunder and Splash today.


And would you look at Harbor Blvd.....all those orange groves!

THanks for sharing.
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Great pics!

I can't BELIEVE that's how Harbor Blvd used to look like Times certainly have changed.

Alison, you probably already said this somewhere in the beginning, but how much are tickets to go to the Expo? This is something I would definitely do solo ( you know DH would NOT like to stand in lines like this all day ) but I think this would be very fun to do.
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So back to the vintage Disney Footage. This is construction of the first high-rise Disneyland Hotel, if you know your DL History, you will know that the first hotel was two stories and I think it had only 24 units. People thought it was crazy to build a hotel next to a theme park, why would anyone want to stay outside a theme park? Can anyone help me out as to what they are building in the foreground?
That looks like New Orleans Square in the foreground.

I really like that picture of the Disneyland Hotel. I had read somewhere that the first tower built was doubled in size later on - if you look at the picture, the right half looks "done", but the left half isn't.

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WOW! Massive update indeed....and I always wondered why there wasn't a New Orleans at WDW.....but I LOVE that Wild West montage. It would so perfectly fit in with Big Thunder and Splash today.


And would you look at Harbor Blvd.....all those orange groves!

THanks for sharing.
Yeah, In Walt's original plan N'Orleans was too close to WDW and he didn't think it would seem as exotic as the Wild West so that's why there isn't that land. It would have been really cool if the Imagineers could have cultivated that aspect of the park.

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Great pics!

I can't BELIEVE that's how Harbor Blvd used to look like Times certainly have changed.

Alison, you probably already said this somewhere in the beginning, but how much are tickets to go to the Expo? This is something I would definitely do solo ( you know DH would NOT like to stand in lines like this all day ) but I think this would be very fun to do.
I know, we can't imagine Harbor Blvd looking like that now. Hey it looks a little like driving down Mooney or Hillman/Demaree, but even less evolved.

Tickets range in price. Sorcerer tickets (supposedly only 50 but closer to 100) were $1000, Premiere (what we had supposedly 250 probably closer to 300) were $500, and Member and non Member tickets were around $45 or so per day (I think I really don't know). The thing is that if you do go, become a D23 member beforehand. The lines for D23 members got in before the non D23 people. I tell you we are going to get the Sorcerer's or equivalent next time. We screwed up because we forgot about buying the tickets until after 5PM and it opened at 10AM. Plus we each needed to have a membership which we didn't realize until the registration opened. Luckily we coudl at least get the Premeiere because it did pay off, I just wish we could have had the Sorcerer.

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That looks like New Orleans Square in the foreground.

I really like that picture of the Disneyland Hotel. I had read somewhere that the first tower built was doubled in size later on - if you look at the picture, the right half looks "done", but the left half isn't.

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The other thing that I wonder is if it was the complex near the DL Hotel before they had the whole DTD area. I remember meeting a friend at a complex near the DL hotel for some drinks, well a lot of drinks but there was a whole area around there with themed restaurants and stuff, I'm a little fuzzy on it all, but I do remember an area that is now gone that used to be around there. Plus when I stayed at the DL hotel they had a pool that is gone where I swam laps on a couple days since I was missing my regular swim workouts, but I'm sure I didn't keep up like I would have if my coaches were pressuring me. But I do remember a pool that was Olympic in scale and not themed like the current pools.
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So while most people were leaving the Convention Center, we scooted on back to the Sorcerer & Premier Member Lounge for our ďFond FarewellĒ



Stephen Clark and his main henchwoman came out to thank us. Wow, I didn't notice it but this poor guy probably didn't sleep for the whole three days!



And they started passing out cupcakes. For some reason cupcakes are all the rage right now.



They served us adult beverages (for free! ) and had all kinds of other goodies out on the food tables.









I got my picture taken with the two of them.



And then we headed out, because after two days of cold food I was ready for Mrs. Knottís Chicken dinner! For those of you who donít know Walter and Cordelia Knott came from Kansas to California in the 1920ís. Sometime during the Great Depression in order to make ends meet Mrs. Knott began serving Fried Chicken Dinners on her wedding china at the ridiculous price of 65Ę. These meals were all inclusive with soup or Cherry Rhubarb, Salad, Biscuits, Fried Chicken and a slice of Boysenberry Pie; a Berry cultivated by her husband and named in honor of his friend who challenged him to cultivate said berries.

Now Iím hoping that these dinners are based on the same principles and recipes that she created back when. I know Iíve always enjoyed our dinners here (although Iíll get the cabbage next time since the corn is obviously canned), but we can never eat the pie and always have to take it to go! I forgot to take pictures of it when we ate it a couple days later, but believe me, itís worth it! In fact if I were staying at the Villas (from out of town) and ventured over here for dinner, I would bring a pie back to my villa, just to enjoy at night!

So hereís our dinner, we ended up stretching it into two dinners, I think we ate the leftovers Wednesday night (as you will see why).

Biscuits



Salad and Cherry Rhubarb



Salad and Chicken Noodle Soup



Corn and Cabbage



And the star of the show, Fried Chicken and Mashed Potatoes. You know, Iíll tell you Iíve seen bad reviews on Yelp, but most of them are from people who didnít want to wait in the line and got take out. They complained that it wasnít crispy, well then suck it up and wait for them to bring you your chicken hot and crispy in the Dining Room! As far as I was concerned it was tasty, crispy and not to spicy. Some others on Yelp seemed to think their recipe needed help, but this is Midwestern Chicken not Southern. As far as Iím concerned, itís pretty darned good and the biscuits are addicting!



After that we went back to the hotel, tried to find room in the fridge for all the leftovers. In fact we left with more food than we came with! I was in a food coma and we went to bed soon after getting back to the hotel. Monday morning we slept in and took all the way until noon to check out.

But wait thereís more! Youíll have to tune in later for the bonus food porn!
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