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Old 06-26-2011, 07:53 PM   #16
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Sounds like you had a wonderful trip. Can't wait for mine now!
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:05 PM   #17
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I was at DLR yesterday, and all day we kept remarking on how low the crowd level seemed to be....not that I'm complaining! lol We rode ST with our FPs, and only had about a 7 minute wait. Later in the day, as the adults sat at The Cove, the younger set rode (and rode and rode and rode) TLM. Yes, they were able to walk on TLM 4 times in a row! We skipped the soft opening of Goofy's Sky School, only because I've never been a fan of Mulholland Madness. All in all, we had a great day (as usual).
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:12 PM   #18
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Thanks so much. So, from your experience, for non-Disney guests, what do you think would be a good strategy for riding TSMM and LM on the same day, with a shorter wait?
You do not need a "strategy" for LM with a short line because the line rarely gets very long. It is often 10-20 minutes all day - sometimes surging to 30 minutes. It is a high capacity fast loading ride and the line does not get long.

TSMM is the same strategy as it ever was. If you subscribe to "Lines" or the TouringPlans.com you can see TSMM has the odd pattern of surging to maximum length right after DCA opens then slowly dropping off throughout the day. Is it worth it to wait 15 minutes at DCA rope drop for TSMM, then in a 10 minute line at TSMM once you get there, only to avoid a 30-35 minute line later in the day? IMO it is not.

We tried it because we were already there to ride LM pre-10AM and as I said it did not work out for us because of the ride opening delay.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:15 PM   #19
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Thanks for the update. I'm feeling confident now that I have the new ride strategies sorted, and am looking forward to our trip in two weeks. It will be our first real peak season visit, so really wanted to have the detail down. This helps!
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:17 PM   #20
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Thanks for the observations... Good stuff! Just curious, how difficult was it to get WOC and Fantasmic in on the same night? Seems like swimming upstream against the fireworks crowds could be an issue. What route did you take over to ROA?
I tried a trick to make it easier - see WOC, go to DL, get on the DLRR, get off at NOS, then get a place at Fantasmic 2nd show. However, I had to detour to my room at the GCH to drop something off and by the time I got into DL the train "closed" from about 9:50PM until 10:30 according to the CM. My kids did not detour to the hotel room and they made the train.

So I had to "swim upstream" (funny you say that - it is the same word I used!) but since I was solo and it was after Magical fireworks ended it was not that difficult at about 9:55. I got to Fantasmic at about 10PM and got a spot in the sitting area close to dead center.

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Old 06-26-2011, 08:20 PM   #21
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Thanks for taking the time to write this up, will be very helpful for our upcoming trip.

We are also ding the WoC dining package, due to having my 10 and 7 year olds, our reservation is 630 to 700pm, should we plan on immediately trying to line up? Really would like my kids to see it standing last March was rough holding my youngest.
Your dinign reservation is at 6:30PM for a 9PM WOC? I would strongly recommend you not do a dining reservation after 6:10PM if you want to get a good spot for WOC at 9PM. You should plan for 75 minutes for dining and you really want to be at the queueing area 90 minutes before the show - at 7:30PM.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:28 PM   #22
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We just got back from a Tuesday thru Sat trip (drove home today). We were not staying on property. On Tuesday we got in to California at 9:30, picked up FP's for Soaring, then picked up FP's for WOC, then went to LM. Acast member started walking us through the line while hotel guests were entering the building. They started lettin us on the ride about 9:50. I think the whole line thing took us about ten minutes. We enjoyed the ride, and I agree, the line never seems long. We then went over to rope drop for Toy Story, Screaming, then back to ride Soaring. It all went really smoothly, and the parks were much less busy than I expected every day we were there.

Star Tours made me a little sick, so I rode once. The rest of my family was able to see it enough times that they saw all possible beginnings, middles, and ends, and tour guides. I think they saw it six times.

On a side note, there is something about Fantasmic, and seeing people playing characters, and the sailing ship Columbia that I really love. WOC was amazing, and a true spectacle, but didn't have the same cozier Disney feel to me, if that makes sense. To me they are like comparing apples and oranges. Love them both! But if I had to pick one to watch it would be Fantasmic.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:31 PM   #23
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We just got back as well--some observations:

--This year (as opposed to last year) we had no problems getting the FastPass for WOC. We went to the early show on Monday. Liked the show better than last year, but I completely agree, it has a ton to do with your vantage point. It totally sucks to have a great place to stand, then the person directly in front of you puts their 10 year old kid on their shoulders and blocks your view. It makes Fantasmic much more appealing to me. Love the addition of the Pirates 4 portion to WOC though.

--This time, for the absolute first time ever, we were told (at GRR) that we should make more of an effort to return with our FP during the window. It was on a very crowded day (Tuesday, the last day before the SoCal APs were blocked) but I was still totally shocked that it was mentioned.

--Maybe I'm just becoming more intolerant, but people seemed much more rude and oblivious to others during our trip. I was *slammed* in the back with a wheelchair in front of the Matterhorn on Friday night. Almost knocked me over and I was screaming in pain from where it hit me in the Achilles tendon on the back of my leg. The people didn't stop longer than a second to say "sorry" but didn't wait to see if I was ok. I have a huge bruise and a sore leg still.

--I still maintain that it is very important to go early. Be there at rope drop in the morning. We rode so much before noon, it was amazing.

--ITA that DCA is a huge mess. Almost not worth going over there. We didn't spend as much time there as we wanted to just because it was a pain to get around.

--Those lemon cupcakes at the Hungry Bear are fabulous. Went back twice for more. Totally worth the price. I get a craving just thinking about them now.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:32 PM   #24
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Oh, and I completely agree with lining up for WOC at 7:30. We saw it from the bridge one night, and from a lower blue section railing spot a couple nights later. It is so worth a little extra time in line to get a good spot.
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Star Tours made me a little sick, so I rode once. The rest of my family was able to see it enough times that they saw all possible beginnings, middles, and ends, and tour guides. I think they saw it six times.
We went on it four times during our stay, and didn't have as many combinations as we thought we would. Had two beginnings, two middles, and two ends, in different combinations.

It was a great ride, I would definitely go more times to try to get more combos in the future.

It made my husband and son a bit sick, they did wear SeaBands which helped a lot. The 3-D is the problem for them. Had to time it just right where they weren't too full or too hungry and it was fine.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:22 AM   #26
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Will be there Thursday and Friday til lunchtime. Plan to make rope drop but do not have MM. Can anyone who's been please advise-after rope drop they have the separate queue line-up to ride ST standby but if I want to just go straight and collect FP (as DD will get sick if rides straight away early) is there a separate line? Do I follow the instructions for the ST line? Don't want to be q in a stand-by line and then discover I've been wasting time in the wrong place! Thanks.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:44 AM   #27
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Will be there Thursday and Friday til lunchtime. Plan to make rope drop but do not have MM. Can anyone who's been please advise-after rope drop they have the separate queue line-up to ride ST standby but if I want to just go straight and collect FP (as DD will get sick if rides straight away early) is there a separate line? Do I follow the instructions for the ST line? Don't want to be q in a stand-by line and then discover I've been wasting time in the wrong place! Thanks.
There was no separate queue for ST FP when we were there the last few days. Folks at the rope just walked to ST and got in the FP line. This line built pretty quickly. Be aware that the ST FP machines are the same ones used previously by BLAB and are across the walkway from the ST ride.

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Sounds like a great trip. Thanks for sharing your observations.
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o If you have to buy park tickets do not wait until you come in for Magic Morning to do it. The ticket windows did not open til 7AM which threw me off because I needed a day ticket because my Deluxe AP was blocked Saturday. With MM at 7AM and the ticket windows opening at 7AM, you cannot be at the front of MM.
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Good point. By the time I realized the ticket booths were not open before 7AM it was bordering on too late for me to go back to the hotel to get the day ticket I needed. But in hindsight using the hotel would have been a better strategy for me.
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