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Old 04-23-2012, 12:02 PM   #1036
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Muffycat ~ after all our SUNY talk my daughter decided on Utica College, luckily with a scholarship that brings the cost down to about the same as a SUNY!

That's great! Thank goodness for scholarships! I'm sure she'll like it.
Can you believe your older DD is almost done?? Feels like just yesterday we were visiting colleges for her!

My DD could have stayed home and went to Molloy for very little cost but she wanted to go away. Can't say I blame her. I think it's a great experience.
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Really? I can honestly say I don't know a single kid in my sons' classes who went to junior college. Do you mean community college? A lot of kids here do that, but it doesn't tend to be the top students. Both of my older sons actually did go to school knowing exactly what they wanted to do - one changed his mind after he got there. My third will go to school in August intending to double major in theatre and something else -- the something else might be chemistry or biology or poli sci or psychology. Thankfully, both schools he's still considering are liberal arts universities with strong theatre departments.
Jr. College/Community College, yes that's what I was talking about. I know a number of top students, including those who declared early who started that way & almost ALL those (among my friends) who were undeclared did that.

As previously mentioned, it's practically a free option *here* for top 10% students, although that program wasn't available in my day

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Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I went to the University of North Carolina to become a social worker. Four years later, I graduated with degrees in journalism and history and a broad, liberal arts education. I was really lucky to get to explore lots of subjects and want the same for my kids.
I can certainly see the value in that, I'm just saying if you've got a kid who has no clue what career path they want to take, it might make more sense financially to let them sort that out in a more cost-effective manner. After all, they could do 4 years worth of Community College WAY cheaper than 2 years at University. In the end, a degree that started at CC & finished at North Carolina is every bit as valuable as one that started AND ended there.
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Jr. College/Community College, yes that's what I was talking about. I know a number of top students, including those who declared early who started that way & almost ALL those (among my friends) who were undeclared did that.

As previously mentioned, it's practically a free option *here* for top 10% students, although that program wasn't available in my day


I can certainly see the value in that, I'm just saying if you've got a kid who has no clue what career path they want to take, it might make more sense financially to let them sort that out in a more cost-effective manner. After all, they could do 4 years worth of Community College WAY cheaper than 2 years at University. In the end, a degree that started at CC & finished at North Carolina is every bit as valuable as one that started AND ended there.
This is an option in my town. The top 10% of kids can go to the local community college for free, then transfer out for the last two years and some of the colleges have an agreement with the community college that allows the credits to be transferred. That being said, DD wants nothing to do with community college. She wants out right away.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:37 PM   #1039
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That being said, DD wants nothing to do with community college. She wants out right away.
Nothing wrong with leaving right away, especially if a scholarship is involved. Plus, typically speaking, the top kids will have some idea what they want to do in life & seem less likely to go into school with no major in mind (not to say they won't switch majors, but they at least usually THINK they know what they want to do ). But, the idea of one of my kids racking up $50,000-60,000 in student loans before declaring a major doesn't sit the best with me
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Several of the colleges DD looked into mentioned they are really *going after* transfer students these days! I think it is a good option for many kids.

Mine's just got her heart set on her college of choice for at least "4" years (she has actually done dual enrollment all this year as a HS SR bu, of course, lived at home). I say they'll be lucky to drag her kicking and screaming across that stage when she is ready to graduate!
I told her admissions councilor," If you let her in, good luck getting rid of her!" lol Yeah, she's going to make them a heckuva alum!
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That's great! Thank goodness for scholarships! I'm sure she'll like it.
Can you believe your older DD is almost done?? Feels like just yesterday we were visiting colleges for her!

My DD could have stayed home and went to Molloy for very little cost but she wanted to go away. Can't say I blame her. I think it's a great experience.
I know! Seniors! How the heck did that happen? By the way my daughter's first choice was Cortland until she visited Utica!
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:14 PM   #1042
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My child got into Dean college which should be interesting. It wasn't her top choice but let's just say she isn't exactly top % of students. I'm actually hoping she graduates! Although it's a misnomer for that as she has more than enough credits but has a couple required classes she is having issues with. *sigh*

However, she also refused to go to Community College...she wanted to go away. As much as I hate the idea of her going 1,000 miles away -- I really think this particular college is well suited for her. It's more a performing arts college & when we went to visit, I really liked it & thought it would suit her well.

She is planning on doing 2 years there and then transferring back to her 1st choice, however, she is leaving the option open that if she really loves it there she will stay. They don't offer Bachelor's degrees in everything but they do in Theatre Arts. Plus, she originally did the 2 year because no audition was necessary. Since it is out of state for us, it would have been logistics issues. This way if she wants to continue, she can just audition while she is there.

The good news is I know I need to start this process a whole lot earlier with my younger kids. Basically I need to start next year with my oldest DS as he will be a Sophomore and that will give us more time to do more school visits if necessary. I would have liked to have done a few more for DD but it didn't work out that way.
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We did our third college visit with DS16 over the weekend. We went to see Messiah College in Grantham PA. It is a small, Christian liberal arts college, and he LOVED it. I actually really liked it too! I can see him fitting in there beautifully. Unfortunately, the tuition is upwards of $40K a year, and we just don't have that kind of money. He will still apply, but we told him that ultimately, he will need to choose the college that gives him the best package.

We have a couple more on the list to go see- but with summer approaching fast, I don't know if we might have to wait until fall.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The college class of 2012 is in for a rude welcome to the world of work.
A weak labor market already has left half of young college graduates either jobless or underemployed in positions that don't fully use their skills and knowledge.
Young adults with bachelor's degrees are increasingly scraping by in lower-wage jobs — waiter or waitress, bartender, retail clerk or receptionist, for example — and that's confounding their hopes a degree would pay off despite higher tuition and mounting student loans.
An analysis of government data conducted for The Associated Press lays bare the highly uneven prospects for holders of bachelor's degrees.
Opportunities for college graduates vary widely.
While there's strong demand in science, education and health fields, arts and humanities flounder. Median wages for those with bachelor's degrees are down from 2000, hit by technological changes that are eliminating midlevel jobs such as bank tellers. Most future job openings are projected to be in lower-skilled positions such as home health aides, who can provide personalized attention as the U.S. population ages.
Taking underemployment into consideration, the job prospects for bachelor's degree holders fell last year to the lowest level in more than a decade.
"I don't even know what I'm looking for," says Michael Bledsoe, who described months of fruitless job searches as he served customers at a Seattle coffeehouse. The 23-year-old graduated in 2010 with a creative writing degree.
Initially hopeful that his college education would create opportunities, Bledsoe languished for three months before finally taking a job as a barista, a position he has held for the last two years. In the beginning he sent three or four resumes day. But, Bledsoe said, employers questioned his lack of experience or the practical worth of his major. Now he sends a resume once every two weeks or so.
Bledsoe, currently making just above minimum wage, says he got financial help from his parents to help pay off student loans. He is now mulling whether to go to graduate school, seeing few other options to advance his career. "There is not much out there, it seems," he said.
His situation highlights a widening but little-discussed labor problem. Perhaps more than ever, the choices that young adults make earlier in life — level of schooling, academic field and training, where to attend college, how to pay for it — are having long-lasting financial impact.
"You can make more money on average if you go to college, but it's not true for everybody," says Harvard economist Richard Freeman, noting the growing risk of a debt bubble with total U.S. student loan debt surpassing $1 trillion. "If you're not sure what you're going to be doing, it probably bodes well to take some job, if you can get one, and get a sense first of what you want from college."
Andrew Sum, director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University who analyzed the numbers, said many people with a bachelor's degree face a double whammy of rising tuition and poor job outcomes. "Simply put, we're failing kids coming out of college," he said, emphasizing that when it comes to jobs, a college major can make all the difference. "We're going to need a lot better job growth and connections to the labor market, otherwise college debt will grow."
By region, the Mountain West was most likely to have young college graduates jobless or underemployed — roughly 3 in 5. It was followed by the more rural southeastern U.S., including Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi and Tennessee. The Pacific region, including Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon and Washington, also was high on the list.
On the other end of the scale, the southern U.S., anchored by Texas, was most likely to have young college graduates in higher-skill jobs.
The figures are based on an analysis of 2011 Current Population Survey data by Northeastern University researchers and supplemented with material from Paul Harrington, an economist at Drexel University, and the Economic Policy Institute, a Washington think tank. They rely on Labor Department assessments of the level of education required to do the job in 900-plus U.S. occupations, which were used to calculate the shares of young adults with bachelor's degrees who were "underemployed."
About 1.5 million, or 53.6 percent, of bachelor's degree-holders under the age of 25 last year were jobless or underemployed, the highest share in at least 11 years. In 2000, the share was at a low of 41 percent, before the dot-com bust erased job gains for college graduates in the telecommunications and IT fields.
Out of the 1.5 million who languished in the job market, about half were underemployed, an increase from the previous year.
Broken down by occupation, young college graduates were heavily represented in jobs that require a high school diploma or less.
In the last year, they were more likely to be employed as waiters, waitresses, bartenders and food-service helpers than as engineers, physicists, chemists and mathematicians combined (100,000 versus 90,000). There were more working in office-related jobs such as receptionist or payroll clerk than in all computer professional jobs (163,000 versus 100,000). More also were employed as cashiers, retail clerks and customer representatives than engineers (125,000 versus 80,000).
According to government projections released last month, only three of the 30 occupations with the largest projected number of job openings by 2020 will require a bachelor's degree or higher to fill the position — teachers, college professors and accountants. Most job openings are in professions such as retail sales, fast food and truck driving, jobs which aren't easily replaced by computers.
College graduates who majored in zoology, anthropology, philosophy, art history and humanities were among the least likely to find jobs appropriate to their education level; those with nursing, teaching, accounting or computer science degrees were among the most likely.
In Nevada, where unemployment is the highest in the nation, Class of 2012 college seniors recently expressed feelings ranging from anxiety and fear to cautious optimism about what lies ahead.
With the state's economy languishing in an extended housing bust, a lot of young graduates have shown up at job placement centers in tears. Many have been squeezed out of jobs by more experienced workers, job counselors said, and are now having to explain to prospective employers the time gaps in their resumes.
"It's kind of scary," said Cameron Bawden, 22, who is graduating from the University of Nevada-Las Vegas in December with a business degree. His family has warned him for years about the job market, so he has been building his resume by working part time on the Las Vegas Strip as a food runner and doing a marketing internship with a local airline.
Bawden said his friends who have graduated are either unemployed or working along the Vegas Strip in service jobs that don't require degrees. "There are so few jobs and it's a small city," he said. "It's all about who you know."
Any job gains are going mostly to workers at the top and bottom of the wage scale, at the expense of middle-income jobs commonly held by bachelor's degree holders. By some studies, up to 95 percent of positions lost during the economic recovery occurred in middle-income occupations such as bank tellers, the type of job not expected to return in a more high-tech age.
David Neumark, an economist at the University of California-Irvine, said a bachelor's degree can have benefits that aren't fully reflected in the government's labor data. He said even for lower-skilled jobs such as waitress or cashier, employers tend to value bachelor's degree-holders more highly than high-school graduates, paying them more for the same work and offering promotions.
In addition, U.S. workers increasingly may need to consider their position in a global economy, where they must compete with educated foreign-born residents for jobs. Longer-term government projections also may fail to consider "degree inflation," a growing ubiquity of bachelor's degrees that could make them more commonplace in lower-wage jobs but inadequate for higher-wage ones.
That future may be now for Kelman Edwards Jr., 24, of Murfreesboro, Tenn., who is waiting to see the returns on his college education.
After earning a biology degree last May, the only job he could find was as a construction worker for five months before he quit to focus on finding a job in his academic field. He applied for positions in laboratories but was told they were looking for people with specialized certifications.
"I thought that me having a biology degree was a gold ticket for me getting into places, but every other job wants you to have previous history in the field," he said. Edwards, who has about $5,500 in student debt, recently met with a career counselor at Middle Tennessee State University. The counselor's main advice: Pursue further education.
"Everyone is always telling you, 'Go to college,'" Edwards said. "But when you graduate, it's kind of an empty cliff."
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Associated Press writers Manuel Valdes in Seattle; Travis Loller in Nashville, Tenn.; Cristina Silva in Las Vegas; and Sandra Chereb in Carson City, Nev., contributed to this report.
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Digging up this old thread to ask: does anyone have any information on Coastal Carolina University?

Hope all is well and everyone is happy where they ended up.
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Digging up this old thread to ask: does anyone have any information on Coastal Carolina University?

Hope all is well and everyone is happy where they ended up.
Find the thread about the high school Class of 2013. It was on the front page within the last week as another Dis'er posted that her dd was accepted at Coastal Carolina.
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We approached it very differently for ds who is currently waiting to hear from his colleges.

He wants to go into physics, so we looked up the top physics programs in the country and applied based partially on location. He applied to a range of schools from MiT, to SUNY Buffalo. Nine schools total.

I recommend looking for good programs first, then narrowing it down from there.
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We approached it very differently for ds who is currently waiting to hear from his colleges.

He wants to go into physics, so we looked up the top physics programs in the country and applied based partially on location. He applied to a range of schools from MiT, to SUNY Buffalo. Nine schools total.

I recommend looking for good programs first, then narrowing it down from there.
Unfortunately, DD has no idea what she wants to go to school for. Maybe Arts/Photography, maybe Marine Biology. She will be taking the SAT for the second time in March, but her last test score was (1030 - M/CR; 1590 M/CR/W) so unless she has some huge epiphany (and her PSAT she took this year isn't showing that), we won't be looking at any top schools anywhere. We're really sticking to NJ schools, but someone on another board mentioned Coastal Carolina and West Chester in PA.
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