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Old 02-26-2011, 12:53 PM   #151
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Ok, my turn. Impressions of Gettysburg and Ithaca?
I don't know much about it but my niece is graduating from Gettysburg in May and she has loved it.
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:56 PM   #152
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Of course I am not a parent but I can say as a teen what is important right now. My parents give me suggestions and all but are not effection my decisions at all.

Loaction is big because I do want to be semi-close to home, like not too close (2 hours is starting distance) but not too far, 4 hours would be great but I am willing to do up to 6 if the school is AMAZING. I also want to be close to a bigger city where a lot is going on. I feel like having a city right there helps with getting jobs when your done too because your close to a lot of job oppertunities.

Tuition makes no difference, Ive discussed this with my parents and we've agreed that happiness comes first then figuring out how to pay. Loans may be necessary but we are expecting a good amount of aid. Size has become VERY important. I want a smaller school, no more then 8000 kids. I like the community feel of smaller schools, it makes you feel more protected which I like.

Reputation is important. I want to attend somewhere that does have a good reputation because I think it helps getting jobs in the end.

I want to go for political science so a lot of schools have it so that's not a big one. Pretty much any school I look at has it so it ends up making no difference.

I also want a more competative school because I have worked hard in high school to get into a good college.
Why are you expecting a lot of aid? Do you mean merit aid or need-based financial aid?
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Old 02-26-2011, 12:58 PM   #153
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:25 PM   #154
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disneylovin24 ~ Have you taken SATs or ACTs yet? Also, please consider what the previous posters are telling you. Don't get saddled with outrageous amounts of loans so that you can be happy now. Those loans will last a lot longer than your 4 years of "happiness". There are a lot of excellent schools where you would not have to take on that kind of debt.

You could look for schools where your stats (gpa, SAT/ACT, class rank) would put you in the top of the applicant pool. Those schools may offer you substantial merit money.
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:25 PM   #155
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I don't know much about it but my niece is graduating from Gettysburg in May and she has loved it.
That seems to be the general feeling of everyone we've talked to. We visited last April and it just seemed that everyone we talked to loved it there. I have found some people in various forums who attend also, and no one really has much negative to say about it. And believe me, I've asked!
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:37 PM   #156
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Anyone know anything about Scranton University?
I just found that one on the Jesuit website and it's rather local so we could easily check it out- day trip. Anyone know anything?
We visited, but my daughter did not like it. On paper, it was a good fit, but I forgot to mention in an earlier reply that one of the things that was most important to my daughter, for better or worse, was a real traditional "campus." She wants the green lawns, an enclosed space feeling, etc. Scranton, while everything else was fine, just did not have this. We did a lot of walking on city streets on our tour. The school is in the city center and just does not have a whole lot of green space. There was also quite a bit of construction going on. The mansion that houses their admission center is absolutely stunning, though. It sits on a hill overlooking the city and you can clearly see how at one time it was at the center of the city. One minor point that was a very nice touch at Scranton (although it must be very expensive for them) was that they give everyone a free meal voucher for their dining hall after the tour. We really appreciated that. And, since you found Scranton on a Jesuit website, I will assume that this is important to you. One thing that we heard mentioned several times is that they are "unabashedly Jesuit", so that might be a big thing in its favor for you. Since you say you are in the area, I'd at least check it out. It wasn't for my daughter, but it may be perfect for you.
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Old 02-26-2011, 01:47 PM   #157
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Student loans are not evil. One can be STUPID about taking out student loans, certainly as this person has illustrated, but I hate to see someone chose between not taking out some loans and not going to college. Our son will have student loans when he graduates, equivalent to about a car payment. It isn't all that bright to take out $100,000 in student loans for a job that pays $30,000. You have to factor that into your decision too. Is going to Harvard going to make a difference between you getting selected for a teaching position vs someone that went to the local State U-probably not, but going to Harvard might make a difference between you getting into a top medical school vs someone that graduated from the local state U. You have to weigh the benefits. Is $100,000 in student loan debt a big deal for a dr, not really, but it is for a teacher (or a fortune cookie writer ).
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Why are you expecting a lot of aid? Do you mean merit aid or need-based financial aid?
Need based, neither of my parents make much money. My cousins got a lot of aid and their parents make twice of what my parents do so we are expecting a lot too.

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disneylovin24 ~ Have you taken SATs or ACTs yet? Also, please consider what the previous posters are telling you. Don't get saddled with outrageous amounts of loans so that you can be happy now. Those loans will last a lot longer than your 4 years of "happiness". There are a lot of excellent schools where you would not have to take on that kind of debt.

You could look for schools where your stats (gpa, SAT/ACT, class rank) would put you in the top of the applicant pool. Those schools may offer you substantial merit money.
No, taking SATS in two weeks I understand what loans mean. I have family who have large loans but it is manegable. I am somebody who is hard to please at times and I know I could not speand 4 years somewhere if I was not happy there no matter what the cost. I do believe that it is important to be happy over the 4 years no matter the cost. I am expecting to come out of college owing something and that is fine with me. It is my decision to make and I know what I want.
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Anyone know anything about Scranton University?
I just found that one on the Jesuit website and it's rather local so we could easily check it out- day trip. Anyone know anything?
http://www.creighton.edu/

If you are specifically looking for Jesuit schools, Creighton might be of interest. I know it is in Omaha, Nebraska but Omaha is a nice town with an airport
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Did you look at Skidmore? It seems remote, but Saratoga is a great town and it is fairly close to Albany (good airport for whoever asked and Southwest flies there)



Don't immediately dismiss women's colleges (I assume you are female). They offer an incredible education. Bryn Mawr is in a consortium with Haverford (and I think Swarthmore too), Mt. Holyoke and Smith are in a consortium with UMass, Amherst, and Hampshire college. So it's not like there are no boys at all.
I have been to a lot of places upstate and it is not me! And I know that i do not want a female college! I am somebody who has never had a boyfriend and one of the things I am most excited about in college is to start dating! I know that there are other schools around but I want to be able to go to school with guys.

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I understand about student loans and am fine with taking them out. I have done math with my cousin who owes 100 grand and we figured out that if you make 45k (his salary) you can have your loans payed off by the time your 30. I do not think that's bad. Now, I do know that I may not make 45k right off the bat but still, I am fine with paying student loans. And I know you are going to try to convince me otherwise because I am young and all but you are not changing my mind! I already know where I really want to go (all of the other schools are just backups) and I will pay whatever to go there because that is how much I loved it.
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disneylovin24- How about Sacred Heart or Fairfield. I"m guessing youre on or near LI so Hofstra wont do but I do know a lot of kids from my DD's high school loves theses schools. Marist or Quinnpiac also a thought.
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Youbetcha . Both of my kids went to the Univ. of Scranton and LOVED their time there. They have done a lot of new construction recently including a new student center and sophomore dorm which are finished, and a science complex and upperclass apartments (including an additional dining location and fitness center) are under construction and scheduled to be completed by fall, 2011.

The campus is well maintained and dorms and buildings we have been in have always been spotless. It draws students mainly from PA, NJ and NY, but both my kids had friends there from the west coast and other countries as well. Academics are first rate with the sciences being very strong (their med. school acceptance rate is fairly high). They have a unique honors program offered to the top (approx. 50) incoming freshmen. We also found they were fairly generous with merit and need based aid.

My DD knew that was where she wanted to be when she first set foot on campus when we visited. There was a vibe and a feeling she didn't get from any of the other schools on her list. DS actually started somewhere else and transferred to Scranton for second semester freshman year.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
That's how I am feeling about my top school right now, it's nice to know that I am not the only person to have experienced this!
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disneylovin24- How about Sacred Heart or Fairfield. I"m guessing youre on or near LI so Hofstra wont do but I do know a lot of kids from my DD's high school loves theses schools. Marist or Quinnpiac also a thought.
I do not like Marist or Quinnipiac's location. I have heard bad things about Sacred Heart, just mostly that it's a very public education at a private price.
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I understand about student loans and am fine with taking them out. I have done math with my cousin who owes 100 grand and we figured out that if you make 45k (his salary) you can have your loans payed off by the time your 30. I do not think that's bad. Now, I do know that I may not make 45k right off the bat but still, I am fine with paying student loans. And I know you are going to try to convince me otherwise because I am young and all but you are not changing my mind! I already know where I really want to go (all of the other schools are just backups) and I will pay whatever to go there because that is how much I loved it.
Oh Boy. Well, good luck. I hope everything works out for you.

I agree with golfgal that student loans are not necessarily evil. However, I do think that parents need to help their students understand how much debt is acceptable just starting out.
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I have been to a lot of places upstate and it is not me! And I know that i do not want a female college! I am somebody who has never had a boyfriend and one of the things I am most excited about in college is to start dating! I know that there are other schools around but I want to be able to go to school with guys.



I understand about student loans and am fine with taking them out. I have done math with my cousin who owes 100 grand and we figured out that if you make 45k (his salary) you can have your loans payed off by the time your 30. I do not think that's bad. Now, I do know that I may not make 45k right off the bat but still, I am fine with paying student loans. And I know you are going to try to convince me otherwise because I am young and all but you are not changing my mind! I already know where I really want to go (all of the other schools are just backups) and I will pay whatever to go there because that is how much I loved it.
I'm not sure what your cousin came up with, but mathematically, it's not possible to pay off $100,000 in loans in eight years without making some very large payments. I would never recommend to my sons that they do that, especially if they were majoring in a liberal arts field such as political science. I also encouraged them to go places that we could fund, so they graduated with no debt. We're not telling you this is a bad idea to be mean, we're telling you this because we have a lot more life experience and know what we're talking about.

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