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Old 02-12-2011, 07:00 AM   #16
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Looks like we have that obstruction for our 2/20 b2b. We have 7162 on the port side, on the starboard side it looks like it would be 7660. The panels seem to correspond with the indentation features on decks 11 and 12 and run vertically down to deck 5.
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Old 02-12-2011, 07:02 AM   #17
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I suppose it is all about the description and whether or not you feel that these are "Obstructed". Personally I don't think they are... but that is just me. If you feel that they are write to DCL. Did you mention it when you were onboard?

I am pretty sure that these pieces of steel will be structural and therefore can not be removed.

I have been biting my tounge on AP for so long now, that I can do it no more. I can not imagine anything worse in a place where you should be eating - a CGI turtle swimming around talking to you. I see eating as a sociable activity, where you should chat and interact with people... I can see this not being the case on the dream.
If you look at the pictures, you can see that these pieces do not appear to be structural at all. They look like they've been added on as a cosmetic touch. All it looks like they do is break up the long stretch of verandahs.
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Old 02-12-2011, 07:04 AM   #18
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If you look at the pictures, you can see that these pieces do not appear to be structural at all. They look like they've been added on as a cosmetic touch. All it looks like they do is break up the long stretch of verandahs.
I agree, definitely a design element and not structural.
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Old 02-12-2011, 07:10 AM   #19
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I agree, definitely a design element and not structural.
Correct. They cannot be structural since they were added after Dream left Meyer Werft.

OP, thanks for answering my questions!
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Correct. They cannot be structural since they were added after Dream left Meyer Werft.

OP, thanks for answering my questions!
Well, technically, they were added while still at Meyer Werft I think, since they were in place before the EMS conveyance, but after initial float out from the building.
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Well, technically, they were added while still at Meyer Werft I think, since they were in place before the EMS conveyance, but after initial float out from the building.
Yeah, yeah, whatever.

My point was that structural elements are usually among the first things assembled in any design--not after 95% of it is complete. I knew someone would get me on my wording!

Thanks, by the way, for all the effort you put in superimposing stateroom numbers over the various photos from floatout. You confirmed my estimate for mine, and I know helped many others find theirs.
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Is the Aqua duck open during the Back to Back? thanks.
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:44 AM   #23
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If I had to assign a percentage to the obstruction I would say it covers approximately 20% to 25% of the view and also depends on the angle you are viewing. The obstruction was only on the left hand side (and only on the right in the adjacent cabin). I didn’t have any thing to measure with to get a specific number. It’s quite annoying and, unless DCL removes them, the cabins need to be reclassified.

The overhang of deck 11 does obstruct the upward view, making it impossible for any deck to view fireworks. Personally I think the skirted design really puts the ship at a disadvantage in terms of balcony viewing.

Overall the motion on the ship is not bad. I noticed some vibration in the aft areas of the ship but it wasn’t bothersome. The only ship services that are open before general boarding begins is Cove Café.

The server in Palo was attempting to curb “over ordering”. AP just didn’t appeal to us, it reminded me of a chuck-e-cheese or fast food location with ugly chairs and a really cheap feel.


Different strokes for different folks....I really liked AP and enjoyed eating there (was not crazy about the show...very noisy)..loved the chairs and the look of the place...thought it was very clever. EG was my least favorite dining room (not that I didn't like it just that if I had to rank them I would rank RP, AP and then EG) all just personal preference.










We did Palo brunch on the MV and our server didn't limit us to anything...she encouraged us to order whatever we wanted and to try different things.

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Old 02-12-2011, 08:55 AM   #24
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Looks like we have that obstruction for our 2/20 b2b. We have 7162 on the port side, on the starboard side it looks like it would be 7660. The panels seem to correspond with the indentation features on decks 11 and 12 and run vertically down to deck 5.
We are on the 2/20 cruise too. We have 8644 and 8646, hopefully with the divider open between the two verandahs we won't notice the obstruciton.
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As a former lifeguard a smaller pool that is overcrowded is very dangerous. Do not assume the guards can deal with this. Watch your kids
Disney doesn't have life guards on duty on any of their ships. They do have rec staff that monitor the pools for things like swim diapers and inappropriate behaviour - but not always. So yes, watch your kids (which you should be doing anyway!)
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:12 AM   #26
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We're looking forward to our B2B this October on the Dream, and would be interested in a description of the process. Is it along the lines of: note in stateroom the night before, meet somewhere, disembark #1 together (group), process in for #2 and back on by 10am? Would it then be possible to go do laundry?

Were there many doing B2B on your cruise? It feels like there are many doing B2B this year, probably to get more time on the new ship.
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THANK YOU so much for this information. I called DCL and 9102 is confirmed as one of the obstructed rooms. They were able to switch me to 9132 which is not. The phone reps have access to a lot more inventory than you can see online so it's worth a call if you can't see anything online.

FWIW, my rep told me that her supervisor had sailed in one of the obstructed rooms on the Classic ships and it was fine. I was glad to have the information that the panels are larger on the Dream. Thanks again - I'd have been peeved to find out I paid a premium for an obstructed view.
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Thank you for the stateroom information - that actually confirmed what I've always thought vs. what I kept seeing with my actual eye. It made no sense until now

Looking at the image of the outside of the Dream (on the Disney cruiseline website) the picture of the ship shows the dividers.

-> I made sure I didn't pick a room right next to a change in categories (ie: where the colors change), but 1 down from the color change - if that makes sense.

Thank you for helping confirm I'm not too crazy!
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We're looking forward to our B2B this October on the Dream, and would be interested in a description of the process. Is it along the lines of: note in stateroom the night before, meet somewhere, disembark #1 together (group), process in for #2 and back on by 10am? Would it then be possible to go do laundry?

Were there many doing B2B on your cruise? It feels like there are many doing B2B this year, probably to get more time on the new ship.
There was a thread about B2B on the Dream and the whole process...I will see if I can find it. Seems the Dream has a very big B2B attraction. There was approx. 300 B2Bers onboard the MV and Jan 30th cruise. Our process was a bit different than what was described in the B2B threads for the Classic Ships.

Found it....here you go....

http://www.disboards.com/showthread....t=b2b+on+dream

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Oh, and about AP - I am looking forward to having a good meal (i.e. NOT nasty pizza) someplace where we don't have to plan umpteen diversions to keep DS in his seat! They're already there. I also love Finding Nemo. But can definitely see where that would lose its appeal over time.
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