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Old 01-25-2011, 11:04 AM   #16
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I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here, but I think Frog-o-Spheres are cruel and disgusting. To thrive in captivity, African Dwarf Frogs need a heater, lighting, and plants to hide in, as well as at least 1 gallon of water per frog. Furthermore, the stores selling these "gifts" do not have the proper facilities or training to take care of live animals. In particular, Brookstone (which also carries the "tanks") came under fire a few years ago for the huge attrition rate on frogs before they ever left the store.

This is the same as the people who defend gold fish bowls by stating that their goldfish lived to be 2 years old, so it must be fine. That's the equivalent of stating that your human child lived to be 10, so she must have been healthy.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:10 AM   #17
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of animals in captivity either, unless they are kept as closely as possible to their natural habitat.

Not to mention, we are overrun with wild frogs at home already - why on earth would I want to pay money for more!
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:15 AM   #18
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I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here, but I think Frog-o-Spheres are cruel and disgusting. To thrive in captivity, African Dwarf Frogs need a heater, lighting, and plants to hide in, as well as at least 1 gallon of water per frog. Furthermore, the stores selling these "gifts" do not have the proper facilities or training to take care of live animals. In particular, Brookstone (which also carries the "tanks") came under fire a few years ago for the huge attrition rate on frogs before they ever left the store.

This is the same as the people who defend gold fish bowls by stating that their goldfish lived to be 2 years old, so it must be fine. That's the equivalent of stating that your human child lived to be 10, so she must have been healthy.
The reason I started this thread was so that I could find out what kind of frogs they are so that I could research what kind of environment they need.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:17 AM   #19
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I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here, but I think Frog-o-Spheres are cruel and disgusting. To thrive in captivity, African Dwarf Frogs need a heater, lighting, and plants to hide in, as well as at least 1 gallon of water per frog. Furthermore, the stores selling these "gifts" do not have the proper facilities or training to take care of live animals. In particular, Brookstone (which also carries the "tanks") came under fire a few years ago for the huge attrition rate on frogs before they ever left the store.

This is the same as the people who defend gold fish bowls by stating that their goldfish lived to be 2 years old, so it must be fine. That's the equivalent of stating that your human child lived to be 10, so she must have been healthy.
Yep I agree with this.

and we have our own frog population here, the kids see the whole life cycle start every spring, they catch them in the yard all summer, and let them go of course, and they see them grow from tiny babies to large adults.
pretty cool when in nature.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:21 PM   #20
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We had 2 frogs we got at the mall- they were sold in the small plastic box setup. DH, who keeps fish, bought a 5 gallon tank for them. He added gravel, filtration, tank lighting on a timer, and live plants. He cleaned the tank and did partial water changes weekly.

The frogs lived about 4 years- they died within a week of each other this month. We enjoyed them, but won't get them again. We will probably get a betta for the tank.
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After 18 months of protests, thousands of calls and e-mails, and appearances outside Brookstone stores by our giant "frog," Brookstone has finally decided to pull a cruel product called the "Frog-O-Sphere" from its shelves!

PETA started campaigning against the tiny plastic frog prisons after receiving complaints from Brookstone customers and after a whistleblower reported that frogs and snails housed in the tiny 4-inch-by-4-inch plastic boxes were neglected, deprived of veterinary care and adequate food, and kept in filthy water. The whistleblower told PETA that when frogs became obviously ill and "unsaleable," they were moved to the stores' storage rooms, where they often wasted away and died.

PETA's undercover investigation of Wild Creations—the company that came up with the idiotic idea of throwing two frogs and some gravel into a container smaller than a shoebox and leaving them there for their entire lives—revealed filthy conditions and deadly neglect. In some cases, frogs were so hungry that that they chewed each other's legs off.

Brookstone joins Magic Beans, Target, and other retailers that have stopped selling these cruel products, but Coach House Gifts is still selling frogs in "EcoAquariums" to make an easy buck. In one shipment to Coach House Gifts, 37 out of 40 frogs died after they were left in a container so long that they suffered from heat prostration. Please take a moment to urge the company to stop selling its deadly EcoAquariums.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:21 PM   #22
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wow, a little frog in a aquarium turns into a controversy

my mom was a card carrying member of peta way back in the 1970's, she protested against the slaughter of the baby seals, all her dogs were rescue dogs, she never wore any kind on fur, and I too follow her beliefs

however, hidden camera reports on frogs---I am sorry but that is bit over the top for me---might as well as not allow anyone to own any sort of pet---peta needs to spend their $$ on more pressing aninal cruelty issues
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wow, a little frog in a aquarium turns into a controversy

my mom was a card carrying member of peta way back in the 1970's, she protested against the slaughter of the baby seals, all her dogs were rescue dogs, she never wore any kind on fur, and I too follow her beliefs

however, hidden camera reports on frogs---I am sorry but that is bit over the top for me---might as well as not allow anyone to own any sort of pet---peta needs to spend their $$ on more pressing aninal cruelty issues
Frogs are less worthy of humane treatment than other animals?
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This thread caught my attention, the litte frogs look to be the "African Frogs" my son had in the mid-seventies, we bought ours from a pet store just like you did fish, kept them in in aquarium and fed them I believe tubiflex worms? Ours lived for quite a few years I want to say 5 or 6 years. I can not imagine keeping them in a little closed box forever, it seems cruel as they are quite lively and enjoy a larger space to live.
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We have some that came that way, but we transfered them to a bigger tank (castle, plants, fancy rocks, the whole works) - partly so the cat can't push it off the shelf, and partly to make the little critters happier. The cube just seemed small to me. You can also get more info by searching "African Dwarf Frogs".
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I am going to ignore all the SILLY controversy and let you know OP we have 2 of these and love them! We even gave 2 to both my Grandmas for Mother's Day last year and they love theirs too. They have brought great joy to our grandmothers as they can put them on their kitchen table and watch them swim. Ours are going on 6 years old and seem to be doing great. We leave them with a friend when we go out of town and usually they end up getting their baby frogs own once we get home and take ours back. I believe they are Dwarf African Frogs - about 1" in length. Good luck!
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I am going to ignore all the SILLY controversy and let you know OP we have 2 of these and love them! We even gave 2 to both my Grandmas for Mother's Day last year and they love theirs too. They have brought great joy to our grandmothers as they can put them on their kitchen table and watch them swim. Ours are going on 6 years old and seem to be doing great. We leave them with a friend when we go out of town and usually they end up getting their baby frogs own once we get home and take ours back. I believe they are Dwarf African Frogs - about 1" in length. Good luck!
Why is stating a fact silly? And why the condescending attitude?
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i love those little frogs. i had a bunch of them. i got them in the aquarium at walmart and they were called african clawed frogs.

i had ferdinand and would buy him the little ghost shrimp as treats. i had one of those little tanks for him. he somehow got out. mom found him down the hall then he got out again, but i think this time sassypants (cat) found him. we never found him

so i got 2 (ferdi 2 and claude the clawed frog ) the next time, i really missed that little frog! i got a bigger tank and cleaned it all the time, i watched them constantly, they were a great source of entertainment. it was also peaceful watching them too after my dad died.

when hurricane katrina struck, i hurried to walmart and got one of those little ice tea jugs (with the spigot)...it was the only container i could find to take my babies in. i ended up buying a giant tank on our month and a half "vacation".

they lived for 4 years. and when i see my tank in the garage on the shelf, i think i should really go get another one.

you can feed them the pellets or the little ghost shrimp. they are teeny tiny, no longer than a small pinky toe. you have to becareful though because if they eat too many they could get sick. i've never seen the shrimp at petsmart, just at walmart and that was few and far between.

also they do get to grow bigger. i was told the bigger the tank you put them in, the bigger they will get.

for those of you who get the little frogs, enjoy them! they are wonderful little fellas!
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Why is stating a fact silly? And why the condescending attitude?
Well Andrea, against my better judgement ( and because the only thing on tv is the President) I am going to reply:

I stated SILLY because the OP had one question and made one statement - they questioned the type of frog and the plastic tank as it's environment as not being conducive. A simple question - not a fuel sparking debate about the unethical treatment of frogs. The OP just wanted to know what the frogs were that their DS wanted.

So no, I did not state a fact was silly and had no such suggested condescending attitude - just wanted to tell what kind of frogs they are.

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