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Old 07-27-2012, 01:01 PM   #2266
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I keep reading that more of the expansion will open in time for the holidays-- which holidays--thanksgiving or Christmas?
And does anyone have any idea what kind of menu Gastons Tavern will have?
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:06 PM   #2267
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I keep reading that more of the expansion will open in time for the holidays-- which holidays--thanksgiving or Christmas?
And does anyone have any idea what kind of menu Gastons Tavern will have?
Your guess is as good as anyone else's. Disney is being deliberately vague.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:08 PM   #2268
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It will be early 2014. It should be late 2013 though but they are playing it safe I bet. Two and a half years is an obscene amount of time to build a single ride. I think that was the amount of time they spent on the entire Cars Land.
They didn't start actual work on the ride until earlier this year, so I'd say it's still under 2yrs. (remember, it was a late addition to the FLE plans).

Beyond that, i'd still give them some extra leeway with the ride construction. Since it'd be in a landlocked location surrounded by disney guests once they open BoE and LM, I can easily see that causing some delays with construction since it would limit their ability to move supplies and debris into and out of the construction area, as well as some bigger work that might require cranes or other heavy equipment.

Honestly, I'd be willing to place money on the bet that the site access and guest safety concerns are why we are not only seeing vertical construction so fast (all the steel work... and maybe even track laying), but that it's one of the primary reasons why BoE and LM aren't opening earlier. (not a ton earlier mind you, but as soon as they open those areas to the public, they lose a lot of freedom with the work on he mine train. a delay of a month on the attraction openings could translate to 3months of delays in construction due to being limited to overnight hours if the attractions were open that month.)
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:13 PM   #2269
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They didn't start actual work on the ride until earlier this year, so I'd say it's still under 2yrs. (remember, it was a late addition to the FLE plans).

Beyond that, i'd still give them some extra leeway with the ride construction. Since it'd be in a landlocked location surrounded by disney guests once they open BoE and LM, I can easily see that causing some delays with construction since it would limit their ability to move supplies and debris into and out of the construction area, as well as some bigger work that might require cranes or other heavy equipment.

Honestly, I'd be willing to place money on the bet that the site access and guest safety concerns are why we are not only seeing vertical construction so fast (all the steel work... and maybe even track laying), but that it's one of the primary reasons why BoE and LM aren't opening earlier. (not a ton earlier mind you, but as soon as they open those areas to the public, they lose a lot of freedom with the work on he mine train. a delay of a month on the attraction openings could translate to 3months of delays in construction due to being limited to overnight hours if the attractions were open that month.)
Yep.

I'm not straying from "early 2014" until it gets a lot closer or Disney itself modifies that projection.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:15 PM   #2270
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I keep reading that more of the expansion will open in time for the holidays-- which holidays--thanksgiving or Christmas?
And does anyone have any idea what kind of menu Gastons Tavern will have?
I'm still hoping for Arbor Day.
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That's not true. Berlioz is quite informative, but she does tend to come across as a bit of a know-it-all at times.
I'm sorry you see it that way. Her posts have always seemed very informative and helpful. And I love that she's willing to spend so much time answering everyone's endless questions here.

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The character budgets WILL be increasing with the opening of the new Fantasyland, since all sorts of brand-new characters are coming. And with over 1,500 new jobs being created for the expansion, including positions in Entertainment, it makes perfect sense.
I certainly hope you're right, as I would love to see more characters, not less. But honestly, my own guesses (and that's all they are) are based on what I've seen out of Disney in recent times.

Care to share any inside information about all these new characters coming? I would hope to see some BATB characters, and would expect Ariel to return to her rock. But even that will possibly come with the demise of poor Eric again. Are there other big surprises in store? I sure hope so!
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:33 PM   #2272
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I'm still hoping for Arbor Day.
Check out "the unofficial waiting for be our guest ADRs" you'll like the last few posts I think.
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I'm sorry you see it that way. Her posts have always seemed very informative and helpful. And I love that she's willing to spend so much time answering everyone's endless questions here.

I certainly hope you're right, as I would love to see more characters, not less. But honestly, my own guesses (and that's all they are) are based on what I've seen out of Disney in recent times.

Care to share any inside information about all these new characters coming? I would hope to see some BATB characters, and would expect Ariel to return to her rock. But even that will possibly come with the demise of poor Eric again. Are there other big surprises in store? I sure hope so!
Another appreciator of Berlioz's info here.
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And does anyone have any idea what kind of menu Gastons Tavern will have?
Nope they're keeping it under wraps, but they did promise us an article about it...
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:58 PM   #2276
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I'm sorry you see it that way. Her posts have always seemed very informative and helpful. And I love that she's willing to spend so much time answering everyone's endless questions here.
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So how do we think the Mine Train site is going to impact on the rest of NFL in terms of guest experience when BATB and TLM open? Will there be a blindingly obvious construction site in the middle of New Fantasyland for a year or so?
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So how do we think the Mine Train site is going to impact on the rest of NFL in terms of guest experience when BATB and TLM open? Will there be a blindingly obvious construction site in the middle of New Fantasyland for a year or so?
I expect so, unless they invest in some very high walls. But then, you'd still have the walls.
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Another photo report from earlier this week:

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