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Old 10-15-2012, 10:45 PM   #1516
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Does anyone know of a site that will show the room location from the outside of the ship? We will be staying in 9086 on the Dream in January and I am trying to get an idea of the view from the veranda. Thanks so much!

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Old 10-15-2012, 11:34 PM   #1517
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Does anyone know of a site that will show the room location from the outside of the ship? We will be staying in 9086 on the Dream in January and I am trying to get an idea of the view from the veranda. Thanks so much!

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You are posting on said thread. Check out page one. Scroll to top of this page and click on page 1(First). Look at photos and find 9586 which is the mirror cabin, yet on the opposite side of ship.

My opinion is 9586 looks good on the outside, therefore 9086 should be similiar. No obstructions. You are one cabin forward of outer skin cabin 9088. If this is incorrect please report back and let us know. I'm confident you are good to go externally.

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Old 10-16-2012, 05:54 AM   #1518
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Also, my travel agent said cat 4E Does have rooms that sleeps 5? Would anyone know which rooms they are or have the rooms numbers? I am trying to play around on the disney cruise line website, but they all must be booked i can not view where there is a cat 4E room that sleeps five! I am trying to be prepared when i book my 2014 cruise!! Any help would be great thanks!!!
Mariellen we have room 5540 on the dream that's category 4E. It's 299sqt ft. Will let you know how was is. We sail 4 nov.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:17 AM   #1519
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You are posting on said thread. Check out page one. Scroll to top of this page and click on page 1(First). Look at photos and find 9586 which is the mirror cabin, yet on the opposite side of ship.

My opinion is 9586 looks good on the outside, therefore 9086 should be similiar. No obstructions. You are one cabin forward of outer skin cabin 9088. If this is incorrect please report back and let us know. I'm confident you are good to go externally.

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This is exactly what I needed. Thank you kindly!

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Old 10-16-2012, 12:40 PM   #1520
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Mariellen we have room 5540 on the dream that's category 4E. It's 299sqt ft. Will let you know how was is. We sail 4 nov.
do you have 5 people in your room or 4?
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:29 AM   #1521
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Also, my travel agent said cat 4E Does have rooms that sleeps 5? Would anyone know which rooms they are or have the rooms numbers? I am trying to play around on the disney cruise line website, but they all must be booked i can not view where there is a cat 4E room that sleeps five! I am trying to be prepared when i book my 2014 cruise!! Any help would be great thanks!!!
I emailed DCL about this. I think I may have responded to a question you had on another thread .

According to the rep who emailed me back, ONLY 4A-Ds are family staterooms. She did NOT include 4Es in the list of family staterooms. I had specifically emailed about 4Es, because on our last cruise our 4E was not a family stateroom and if you look on the deck plan they are all the same size. So I don't see how any of them could sleep 5. And they certainly aren't 299sf, as listed on the Web site. The rep didn't mention that part, even though I asked why they would incorrectly advertise them as family staterooms on the site. Oh well. I feel bad for any cruisers who think they booked a family stateroom and end up with a regular one!

If anyone does end up with a 4E that actually is a family stateroom, I'd love to hear of it! I'd book one next time! I even asked if there were any such rooms and the rep ignored that part of my email, too. I took this to mean no, there aren't any .
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:47 PM   #1522
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She did NOT include 4Es in the list of family staterooms. I had specifically emailed about 4Es, because on our last cruise our 4E was not a family stateroom and if you look on the deck plan they are all the same size. So I don't see how any of them could sleep 5. And they certainly aren't 299sf, as listed on the Web site. The rep didn't mention that part, even though I asked why they would incorrectly advertise them as family staterooms on the site. Oh well. I feel bad for any cruisers who think they booked a family stateroom and end up with a regular one!
I was curious about this, but then I remembered that the square footage listed usually includes the verandah on rooms with one, so I - just now - opened up the DCL website and looked into booking a stateroom.

The 4E's are listed on the DCL Website as being 299 sq. ft. including verandah.

They are also not listed as "family staterooms."

I feel bad if anyone thinks they booked a family stateroom and ends up with a regular one, too, but I definitely don't think they are incorrectly advertised.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:08 PM   #1523
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I was curious about this, but then I remembered that the square footage listed usually includes the verandah on rooms with one, so I - just now - opened up the DCL website and looked into booking a stateroom.

The 4E's are listed on the DCL Website as being 299 sq. ft. including verandah.

They are also not listed as "family staterooms."

I feel bad if anyone thinks they booked a family stateroom and ends up with a regular one, too, but I definitely don't think they are incorrectly advertised.
That's weird. Where exactly are you looking? When I look the 4E up to book it, it's still showing as a family stateroom on the DCL site. Its description is also identical to that of the other 4s. Including the square footage, which should be 246 including verandah, and it says they have a wall pull-down bed (which would be impossible). However, it does say it only sleeps 3-4. At least that's accurate!
Are you seeing something different when you go to book?
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:39 PM   #1524
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That's weird. Where exactly are you looking? When I look the 4E up to book it, it's still showing as a family stateroom on the DCL site. Its description is also identical to that of the other 4s. Including the square footage, which should be 246 including verandah, and it says they have a wall pull-down bed (which would be impossible). However, it does say it only sleeps 3-4. At least that's accurate!
Are you seeing something different when you go to book?
I went to disneycruise.disney.go.com, then used the small box on the left side of the screen to select a month, destination and departure port (I just used the one I'm going on in December, to the Bahamas from Canaveral), 2 adults... and clicked "find cruises"

We're both correct, it looks like.... it does still say "Family" stateroom, so I am wrong about that and I apologize.

But the square footage is right... as long as you assume that the size of the "extended verandah" is exactly the same size as the jump from "regular" stateroom to "family" stateroom...

For example, if the Regular Verandah Stateroom is, say, 200 sq. ft. (just to pick a round number) and the verandah is 46 sq ft, it's 246sq. ft. total.
200 indoor + 46 Outdoor = 246 total.

If a Family Verandah Stateroom is 253 sq. ft. and the verandah is 46 sq. ft., it's 299 sq. ft. total.
253 indoor + 46 Outdoor = 299 total.

Presumably, in the 4E's, the stateroom is your typical 200 sq. ft. but the verandah is 99 sq. ft. Therefore, the total, including verandah, is 299 sq. ft. even though the room itself is still 200.
200 indoor + 99 Outdoor = 299 total.


They do definitely need to remove the "Family" from the designation, but I suppose they've covered themselves with the wall pull-down bed by saying it's not in all staterooms....
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:45 PM   #1525
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:52 AM   #1526
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That's weird. Where exactly are you looking? When I look the 4E up to book it, it's still showing as a family stateroom on the DCL site. Its description is also identical to that of the other 4s. Including the square footage, which should be 246 including verandah, and it says they have a wall pull-down bed (which would be impossible). However, it does say it only sleeps 3-4. At least that's accurate!
Are you seeing something different when you go to book?
I am headed out on Dec 16th and have a 4E as stated on our DU reservation. On our DCL paperwork it is listed as a "Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom with Veranda". Online the 4E category is stated as "Deluxe Family Oceanview Stateroom with Verandah Category 04E". Now I have to look at my notes to see what we had requested from DU as I remember seeing the room with the extended veranda available and requesting 5542. Am I missing something here?
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I am headed out on Dec 16th and have a 4E as stated on our DU reservation. On our DCL paperwork it is listed as a "Deluxe Oceanview Stateroom with Veranda". Online the 4E category is stated as "Deluxe Family Oceanview Stateroom with Veranda Category 04E". Now I have to look at my notes to see what we had requested from DU as I remember seeing the room with the extended veranda available and requesting 5542. Am I missing something here?
Well if you are addressing the stateroom description as the anomaly, we know why.
At some point, perhaps two years ago now, DCL recategorized many cabins. DCL and some Ta's felt it wasn't necessary to update ALL the info. You will get a cabin on deck 5, it will be an oceanview veranda cabin, 203 square feet inside, with a veranda that is generally 4 times the size of a regular balcony.(38 sq ft, regular)

The description word "family" describes the larger cabins in each category. A Cat 4e is not a family veranda. A family veranda has 256 square feet of space inside and 38 on the balcony. It is just an annoying oversight on several websites not to update, and the fact DCL changed the game a year into it. However I believe all cat 4 cabins are family cabins except the newly designated 4e's. DCL decided to place these cabins in the cat 4 price range due to their desirability, due to the large balcony, yet failed to update the details.

I feel that is where the confusion lies, literally. And I feel for everyone reading the inaccurate descriptions online on many sites. Although the balcony size may make up for the few less feet inside. But again, check beds and capacity, because they are less than a true family cabin.

http://www.cruisedeckplans.com/DP/Ma...Disney+Fantasy

You do not have a family veranda if you have a 4e. You also should call DCL to verify exactly what bedding is in said cabin.
You could look here too. http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/cruise-new/roomlist.cfm

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ETA; There was a recent thread about this category, concerning the descrepencies, yet I failed to locate it. Perhaps others will help.

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Why don't you go to the website and pick a low-season dummy date and try to book 5 people into a stateroom and see if that category is offered. Then you'll know for sure if any have bedding for 5.
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Bear3412 is right. It's DCL's fault for not bothering to correct their site. Unfortunately, their oversight has resulted in a misleading (I think deceptive) situation. If you intended to book a family stateroom, you should have your TA take it up with DCL. It's not the number of people you were booking for that's the question. It's the class of room. If you asked for a family and the room is listed as a family on the site, but you were actually given a regular room, that's where the problem lies. And a 4E is definitely not a family stateroom.

For some reason this really bothers me. I guess because it would be such an easy fix for DCL to correct. I've contacted them and gotten a canned response, so I guess they don't care. Maybe I shouldn't either, but I would hate for other DCL customers to be surprised like we were!
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