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Old 01-22-2011, 12:36 PM   #196
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Found this about Farrah's father.
"Little is known about Kyle’s first husband, but he is actually the father of Kyle’s eldest daughter Farrah. In an interview with GeNYU, Farrah explained how she keeps in touch with her Indonesian father through text messages. On her birthday, Farrah’s dad sent her a message which read, “Straight to boogie and tequila.” Because he only speaks broken English and lives so far away, Farrah said this is the best method of communication, “I can send him a text message, and if it’s really late on his time, he can write me back when he gets up.”

Indonesian, not sure about his religous desigantion. If I find anything else I 'll post.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:00 PM   #197
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As much as I can't stand Kyle I think one of the reasons she wanted Kim on the show was maybe to help her. It sounded like in the Limo that Kyle and her husband have been paying for things for Kim. Maybe Kyle thought this would give her some money and maybe get her out of her shell.
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:06 PM   #198
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I love this RH. These girls got bank!

Had to put my two cents in. First, I'm thinking that Kim is resentful for what she had to do as a child for her family. I'm quite sure she sacrificed a lot, although I'm sure she enjoyed buying her family stuf. Maybe they weren't appreciative enough? She appears to be a classic co-dependent. She's very reliant on her sister and kids. I agree with the PP who said she's also socially awkward. I also think she's terribly lonely. I know I would be if I was in her position.

I don't think Kyle's a terrible person at all. I think she's sick of her sister's BS and neediness and finally had enough. She seems to stress over her sister and carry a big burden. That's why she blew up. I know she regrets everthing she said. They both do.

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Does anyone else think Cedric is a con artist who took advantage of Lisa's kindness? His story is so extreme I had a hard time believing it was all true. Now to hear that they don't speak anymore makes me wonder what happened.
Didn't she meet Cedric as a teenager? Maybe I've got it all wrong, but I thought that's how it went down. Anyway, if his story is true, and everyone leaves him, I bet he picked a fight on his way out so it seemed as if he was leaving her.
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:38 PM   #199
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Found this about Farrah's father.
"Little is known about Kyle’s first husband, but he is actually the father of Kyle’s eldest daughter Farrah. In an interview with GeNYU, Farrah explained how she keeps in touch with her Indonesian father through text messages. On her birthday, Farrah’s dad sent her a message which read, “Straight to boogie and tequila.” Because he only speaks broken English and lives so far away, Farrah said this is the best method of communication, “I can send him a text message, and if it’s really late on his time, he can write me back when he gets up.”

Indonesian, not sure about his religous desigantion. If I find anything else I 'll post.
Now the decor of Kyle's house makes sense. I love it....very Indonesian-ish. (Is that even a word????)
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:19 PM   #200
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Thought this was interesting, who were Kim's exhusbands, they were very wealthy.
http://174.129.74.197/real-housewive...ards-exhusband

The second husband his father was the inspiration for the TV show Dynasty? I do not know much about divorce and settlements, I would think Kim would have had plenty of money to support her children from their fathers. But I could be wrong. I will say she did have custody of all her children.

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Old 01-22-2011, 07:06 PM   #201
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Kyle is very selfish and can't see beyond the end of her own nose. I rewatched the episode with the kids birthday parties...Taylor's party for Kennedy and Kyle's party for Portia held on the same day. Kim was also moving on that day. When Kim and Kyle were on the phone, Kyle was very impatient and rude with Kim, cut her off and never once asked Kim how she was doing and if she needed help. It was all about what Kyle wanted and needed. Kyle needed help with her party and nothing else mattered. I mean, its a kids birthday party for cripes sake. How much help can you need??? I know we only get to see a very small portion of their life, but this seems to be a common theme with Kyle in regards to Kim.

I don't know if they've announced which housewives are returning next season. But I'd be very surprised if Kim returns.
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:23 PM   #202
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That's very sad about Kim's fiance getting murdered. She just has a lot of emotional problems. It's very sad.

I noticed in a picture from the Reunion Show Kim is sitting between Camille and Adrienne. I guess the other couch has Kyle, Lisa and Taylor.
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:37 PM   #203
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... The reality is, none of us know the truth and editing can make things seem different than they really are. I enjoy Lisa and Adrienne because they just seem to be the most stable. Taylor is pathetic. She has the least enviable life to me. Russell likes having the trophy, but she allowed that to happen. Marrying for money isn't the way to go. ... ...

As for Camille and Kelsey, there's a whole other story there from what I can see. They both have issues, but that doesn't justify Kelsey's treatment of her or his quick jump into a new relationship. You could tell that he didn't have any real interest in her. If my DH treated me the way he treated her, he'd be getting interrogated. I don't doubt she's a first class b, but they have been married 13 years and have children and nothing justifies him leaving for "work" in NY and then picking up someone new. They both have issues, but Kelsey has real narcissitic issues.
I think Kelsey had this other woman on the side from before he took the job in "La Cage". She was pregnant then lost the baby which was announced in August (I think?), so if you count back the months... I don't think Kelsey went to Broadway and then found the love of his life *after* he got there. He was so weird to Camille when they all went to NYC for opening night remember?

I think he had it all planned from the get-go.
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:10 AM   #204
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I think Kelsey had this other woman on the side from before he took the job in "La Cage". She was pregnant then lost the baby which was announced in August (I think?), so if you count back the months... I don't think Kelsey went to Broadway and then found the love of his life *after* he got there. He was so weird to Camille when they all went to NYC for opening night remember?

I think he had it all planned from the get-go.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:09 PM   #205
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I feel bad for Kim, she seems very emotionally fragile and may very well use alcohol to numb her pain. When she was a child star, there were no labor laws as there are now. It is likely that all her earnings went straight to her parents and they bought home and cars with her earnings. By the time she was an adult, the earnings slowed down and she had nothing to show for it. Then Kyle gets the home that Kim earned for her family, I am sure that hurt. There is so much to that story that we don't know, but Kim seems like a person that is lost and removed from reality. She was clearly intoxicated in the limo.

I hope Lisa return next season along with Adrienne. The others, I could take or leave. I am glad though that they used people with real money, it's a fun escape for me to see how they live.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:20 PM   #206
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Didn't she meet Cedric as a teenager? Maybe I've got it all wrong, but I thought that's how it went down. Anyway, if his story is true, and everyone leaves him, I bet he picked a fight on his way out so it seemed as if he was leaving her.
I was going to post something along these lines too, but never did. As far as I can tell, Cedric has known them/worked with them/lived with them for ~20 years. After hearing everything he has said, I was not surprised at all on the finale to see that he and Lisa had a blow up that ruined their relationship. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy - he is so scared that he'll lose people he loves that he sabotages the relationship out of fear.

Or, he is a con artist who needed an out of the relationship once he wasn't reaping the benefits any longer. However true or false the story of his childhood actually is, I don't believe he is a con artist as much as a product of abandonment and fostering. I think we're more inclined to see "con artist" just because he isn't related. Lots of people are moochers, it doesn't matter if or how you're related
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:31 PM   #207
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Which one owns, or her family owns the Palms Hotel in Las Vegas.
She doesn't seem to like her dh very much.
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Old 01-24-2011, 02:01 PM   #208
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Here's what I know:

Kim supported the family as a child. The mother who they called "Big Kathy" was a piece of work. She had several husbands and was heavily involved with a mafioso at one point. I have read stories that she was emotionally and physically abusive with the kids. Kyle is the youngest, Kathy is the oldest having a different father then the other two. Apparently the mother kind of "pimped" out Kathy when she was very young, I'm talking 13. She thought she was going to be her cash cow and she more or less set up all these marriages of the girls with wealthy men. Kathy was an aspiring actress who met Rick Hilton while fairly young, and the two were in their fair share of trouble(meaning Paris's apple doesn't fall far from the tree).

If you look at who did what, Kim was in EVERYTHING the late 70's through the 80's and was well loved by many(including myself as a kid). Kyle was only in a handful of parts here and there and never reached the notoriety her sister did.

Yes they all married well. I don't know much about Kim's first husband but the second husband is heir to some Texas oil dynasty. And Kim was heavily controlled by them. There are stories circulating that she didn't quite follow their directions and tried forcing their son to divorce her. It didn't happen right away, but eventually did.

Kim also lost a fiancee in a rather brutal manner. And has never quite recovered, I don't blame her. I would still feel a bit "off" if that happened in my world.

I also read that the mother left the house to Kim. She signed management papers into Mauricio's hands. During the real estate crash a few yrs ago, Mauricio and Kyle lost the house. Meaning they have OWED Kim. That is why they help her out financially. They lost a hell of a lot of her money.

Kyle comes off extremely controlling and manipulative. I've seen this, I have a sister very much like her. Appearances are everything and she will twist everything everyone does and says to make her look better, even if that means tearing family apart.

I don't see Kim has having mental issues at all. I see a woman who is no longer in her prime, who spent pretty much her WHOLE life in the spotlight in Hollywood. And let me tell you, that cannot be easy. It's like living in a giant fishbowl. Kim has four kids that from what I understand she takes care of the most. She loves her kids. Nothing wrong with that. As for her liking to be alone etc. Who doesn't? Believe it or not there are people out there who do not like being with larger then life personalities-Taylor, Lisa etc they'd make me feel uncomfortable too. They have all this money and privilege and Kim no longer has that. She's trying to live a bit more simple and here she's supposed to amount to what they do. I'd be a little off too if I was around those women all the time. I don't think she has emotional problems if anything she may just be oversensitive and not care to be around all the bs.

As for the drinking issue? She was definitely a bit tipsy at the beginning, but not enough to be a crazy drunk. Kyle egged that on. Taylor came at her and Kyle defended Taylor without hearing the conversation. Kim got emotional and wanted to leave and Kyle manipulated the behind the scenes to stop her so it would make KYLE look good. Awful, cruel thing to do.

Kim seemed pretty together towards the end, and if anything frightened. I would be too if I had someone like Kyle in my face.

I loved Kyle the first several episodes and thought Camille was nuts. I have actually changed my mind to the point where I now doubt Kyle's denial of saying anything to Camille in Vegas. I've now seen her make too many nasty little comments about her own sister behind her back. She's treated Lisa rather nasty lately too taking up her new(creepy) friendship with Taylor(who I think is the REAL nasty one on the show). Kyle needs to consult a shrink, not a medium. She has serious anger issues.
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Which one owns, or her family owns the Palms Hotel in Las Vegas.
She doesn't seem to like her dh very much.
That is Adrienne, and she does seem irritated by him, doesn't she? I just picture their wedding, where he is trying to say vows, and she is rolling her eyes...

I was prepared not to like her at all at first, mostly because of her plastic-looking face. But I really do like her. She is usually the most sensible one when the drama starts among the women.
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Taylor(who I think is the REAL nasty one on the show)

It's been so fascinating watching this show with the knowledge and insight that I have into her personality. Granted, people do grow and change with age, and let's face it, we all did stupid and sometimes horrible things in high school that we wouldn't want to be judged by as adults. However, in Taylor's case, I don't see that kind of growth, and I see her behaving in the same manner as when we were teens. Still fake, still manipulative, still willing to smile to someone's face and then stab them in the back. I wanted to give her a chance, I truly did. I always hoped that she had grown up and become a nicer person in adulthood, and when she popped up on this show, I was interested to see how she turned out. I started out feeling sorry for her, because it was obvious her status-seeking, social climbing ways had not changed, and unfortunately, it has led to a shallow relationship with her husband, and unhappiness with their marriage. She is still insecure, which I know now was the root of her behavior in school, and obviously continues to play a huge role in the way she acts and the decisions she makes. But, as the series went on, I realized that, other than being a seemingly good mother and philanthropist, she is still the same person she always was, and I came away from the finale feeling disgusted.
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