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Old 08-29-2012, 01:10 PM   #976
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I can't find the map with CCR Lunch and Dinner sections marked (or maybe I'm missing what colors they are). Can you point me to a particular post please?

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Well, there is no lunch and dinner differentiation marked, which is why I asked. This is the most current map I could find in this thread:

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Old 08-29-2012, 03:02 PM   #977
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Were you at the first or second show? In my opinion, the first show nowadays is definitely more crowded and fills up faster than the second show.
It was a weekday in the off season. There was only one show.

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Old 08-29-2012, 04:45 PM   #978
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I've seen the updated map of the WoC park, with the CCR section marked. Is there a different are for CCR dinner guests, or are all CCR FP holders directed to the same section(s)?
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I can't find the map with CCR Lunch and Dinner sections marked (or maybe I'm missing what colors they are). Can you point me to a particular post please?

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The map that I updated was based on all the differing info that has been given recently in this thread. I went through every post, and just tried to compile the input of many different experiences people were having. I wish I had made a list of who said what... oh well

Based on comments of several people, the Dining FP's seem to be given this way...
Preferred viewing FP given to CCR lunch and dinner, as well as WCT dinner.
Blue FP given to WCT lunch instead of a preferred view FP
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:12 PM   #979
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Based on comments of several people, the Dining FP's seem to be given this way...
Preferred viewing FP given to CCR lunch and dinner, as well as WCT dinner.
Blue FP given to WCT lunch instead of a preferred view FP
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:29 PM   #980
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Thanks for the update on the map. Very helpful. Question - are the spots not marked with a green or yellow considered bad and to be avoided at all costs? Wondering what the different degrees of bad the non-star spots are.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:06 AM   #981
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Thanks for the update on the map. Very helpful. Question - are the spots not marked with a green or yellow considered bad and to be avoided at all costs? Wondering what the different degrees of bad the non-star spots are.
The stars that Hydro put in original map post are located in all different color areas, so one color is not necessarily better than the other... but certain locations (stars) are. From what I gather from those who have had lots of experience at WoC, the key seems to be more central to the show and being right at the rails or the first row of a each elevated section. Bottom line is there are good spots in every color area... key is getting one of the premium spots first
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:07 AM   #982
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We're still over 90 days out, so I am watching this thread closely. We did WOC once with the Ariel dining, and got front and center in the wet zone, they had the area just back of that for us, but we skootched forward to the front rail. That is where I want to be again... I thought we'd do CCT since I want to try it anyway... for lunch... whatever passes they give us, can we move forward to that section--of course we'll be there early. I think when we first did it we were there 1.5 hours early.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:09 PM   #983
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This may be a silly question but I have never seen the show. In looking at the map with the "stars" indicating the good spots to see the show, there are 5 stars to the left the center section in the very first row(yellow) and there are only 2 stars on the right side in the blue section. Why is this? I figured all the spots on this front rail would be considered "good" or is it harder to see from the right side? Also, if you get a blue fastpass and work your way down to the deck in the first section, can you walk over to the yellow side, or is it roped off down in front?
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:23 PM   #984
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This may be a silly question but I have never seen the show. In looking at the map with the "stars" indicating the good spots to see the show, there are 5 stars to the left the center section in the very first row(yellow) and there are only 2 stars on the right side in the blue section. Why is this? I figured all the spots on this front rail would be considered "good" or is it harder to see from the right side? Also, if you get a blue fastpass and work your way down to the deck in the first section, can you walk over to the yellow side, or is it roped off down in front?
IMO it is harder to see on the right side because peope can get in front of you. On the left you have a clear, unobstructed view. This is semi-objective as sight lines are sight lines. But it is still some opinion as some folks still prefer those spots on the right.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:29 PM   #985
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This may be a silly question but I have never seen the show. In looking at the map with the "stars" indicating the good spots to see the show, there are 5 stars to the left the center section in the very first row(yellow) and there are only 2 stars on the right side in the blue section. Why is this? I figured all the spots on this front rail would be considered "good" or is it harder to see from the right side? Also, if you get a blue fastpass and work your way down to the deck in the first section, can you walk over to the yellow side, or is it roped off down in front?
From my perspective the line of sight for best viewing is from the middle and to the left of the audience area. This is the line of sight for the mist projections.
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I thought I read a post that they were giving CCT the better viewing spots and that it was more of a VIP situation. It sounded like you didnt need to show up so early to camp out?? Can anyone confirm? Also, it sounded like the front rail on the lower circle might be the ideal viewing point. Can anyone confirm? We will be doing CCT for dinner but would be willing to get there early and move to the better spot.
We only plan on seeing it once during our trip and want to make sure we have a greta spot.
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I thought I read a post that they were giving CCT the better viewing spots and that it was more of a VIP situation. It sounded like you didnt need to show up so early to camp out?? Can anyone confirm? Also, it sounded like the front rail on the lower circle might be the ideal viewing point. Can anyone confirm? We will be doing CCT for dinner but would be willing to get there early and move to the better spot.
We only plan on seeing it once during our trip and want to make sure we have a greta spot.
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As expressed in the OP I think the front rail of the circle is the best of all spots.
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As expressed in the OP I think the front rail of the circle is the best of all spots.
Thanks Hydro! That's been my goal all along. But I guess with the FP from CCT we're covered just in case..
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I thought I read a post that they were giving CCT the better viewing spots and that it was more of a VIP situation. It sounded like you didnt need to show up so early to camp out?? Can anyone confirm? Also, it sounded like the front rail on the lower circle might be the ideal viewing point. Can anyone confirm? We will be doing CCT for dinner but would be willing to get there early and move to the better spot.
We only plan on seeing it once during our trip and want to make sure we have a greta spot.
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I don't know when your trip is, but Carthay was hardly a VIP experience for me. I would recommend showing up early if you want a shot at a railing. We showed up about 35 minutes before the 9pm show and got put in the very back of the Carthay section. We are both tall, so it was ok, but not ideal. If you want a shot at a railing, I would show up earlier.
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My wife and I just returned from a 8 day/7 night trip last week to DLR and I think I’ve got the missing pieces of the WoC dinning puzzle.

The short version: expect to get different answers from different cast members for the time being as the new configuration is not very well known to all at this point. This includes everyone from guest services, the dining reservation line, the red vested crowd control team, and unfortunately – even the dedicated WoC team, depending on whom you talk to.

After speaking with a WoC team lead, we were told the following information:
- Only two dedicated fastpass zones (yellow and blue) remain. The other zone is referred to as orange and is reserved dinning accessible. This orange label is not well known to many of the cast members; but, the team lead confirmed it is an accurate description for the reserved section and is what guest services issued to us on our make-up ticket for our cancelled reserved dinning show.
-There are two “tiers” of reserved (WCT/CCT dinner and CCT lunch). According to the team lead, WCT are directed to the lower section and CCT lunch the upper; but, here’s the catch – CCT dinner reservations have carte blanche and can request to be placed in either location. CCT lunch can only go to the upper location. Dinner CCT can go to either location upon request. This in my opinion, is likely the biggest source of what’s causing the confusion between the differences of the two dining options. Many cast members simply direct all of the CCT guests to the upper zone and don't give the CCT dinner guests the option.
The current map is more or less correct; but, I would recommend a few changes based on what we were told and saw. We watched WoC 3.5 times over the course of our visit (the half show was due to a malfunction that caused a cancellation). Our information is based on attending the 2nd showing (10:15) each night; but, my wife was present for the first show each time waiting to get our spot
-The very front railing location in the wet zone should be marked in blue and not reserved, which was a surprise to me. Based on what we were told, I don’t think it would be any problem for a preferred dining person to request to go down into this section if they wanted; but, it is not where the ushers were placing anybody while we were there.
-The disabled section in the front railing wet zone should be removed.
-The new disabled section is the area marked in yellow immediately west/left of the WCT? green area on the revised map on the first tier (non-wet zone). This disabled section should be divided into two. The section closest to the centerline is for disabled preferred dining and the section furthest west/left is for regular fastpass (we used yellow; but, I believe either regular fastpass can use this section upon request with a disability).
- Change the reserved dinning sections to orange to match the color coding that is used by guest services for reserved dinning.
For those with disabilities, it is important to note there is a very good location that is available upon request on the first tier just off the centerline. You need to ask for it and the entrance for it is down by the Golden Zephyr as it is only accessible by using the ramp system. My wife is disabled and found that the cast members will first try to place you at one of the back row accessible locations; but, if you ask, they will escort you down front. The view from this location is very good and just off the centerline. The only obstruction is the tall light tower.

Regarding the timing of arrival for optimal viewing, it depends on which show you attend and if you have reserved dinning. Based on our experiences last week (which was by all accounts were moderate crowds for the summer season), the 2nd show remains the best option to get prime viewing locations with less hassle. The very front wet zone did not fill to 100% on any of the nights and two of the showings actually had a few spaces that you could get up to the railing if you desired that never filled. For the three times we got to be in the reserved section, my wife would show up during the first show. The reason she would arrive so early is to guarantee a spot at the show’s centerline at the front of the railing as my primary focus of the trip was photography. Since she’s disabled and couldn’t be out in the parks very long each day, she would meet me at the 10:15 WoC after I left Magical. This strategy allowed us to have the center line spot each night (well, one night someone got into the reserved area before her because she had to take the long ramp down). If we didn’t care for the exact center line and just wanted the front railing in the center tiered section, there was typically space available by the time I arrived from the fireworks around 9:50. The entire reserved section never filled for any of the 10:15 shows. At most, it was 2-3 people deep at the railing. The regular disabled fastpass section up front just off the centerline, section never came close to filling up for the 2nd show during any of the times we attended.

I hope this information helps. As with most things at Disneyland, things can be complicated even for the cast members. If you ever get an answer that is in doubt, have them check with a team lead to confirm. All of the cast members were very helpful.
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