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Old 07-03-2011, 12:52 PM   #271
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Question about which showing

I have read the thread and haven't seen this addressed (which likely means it's a non-issue, but would like to be sure). I am a WDW vet, who will be making my first west coast Disney adventure soon.

Will be at DLR in a few weeks, planning on getting picnic package for WoC and originally planned to see first show (kids may not make it for later show). The thought was brought up by others traveling with me, that maybe the later show would be better from a "it'll be darker and the show will look better" perspective. Any thoughts about this? Aside from needing to get there to stake out a spot in assigned color area later, is there a benefit to the later show?
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Old 07-03-2011, 01:12 PM   #272
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I have read the thread and haven't seen this addressed (which likely means it's a non-issue, but would like to be sure). I am a WDW vet, who will be making my first west coast Disney adventure soon.

Will be at DLR in a few weeks, planning on getting picnic package for WoC and originally planned to see first show (kids may not make it for later show). The thought was brought up by others traveling with me, that maybe the later show would be better from a "it'll be darker and the show will look better" perspective. Any thoughts about this? Aside from needing to get there to stake out a spot in assigned color area later, is there a benefit to the later show?
Hey I saw WOC on June 23 just the week before last and that was just 2 days after the the longest day of the year. It was totally dark well before the 9PM show. So this is a non-issue.

The issue with the 10:15 show is how active the day was and are you bone tired, do you have kids in your group who may be especially tired, and did you get an afternoon break that day to cool off and maybe nap? If not then the weariness issue detracts from the show IMO.

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Old 07-03-2011, 02:08 PM   #273
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thanks!

That is what I thought. Thanks for giving an experienced fan's perspective!
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:30 PM   #274
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Things that I believe are permanent are:
BLUE:
The entrance change away from the Mermaid ride entrance.
PERFERRED DINING: Changing the upper stairs to BLUE and YELLOW.
NON-Fastpass Standing areas (Now that the walls in front of Mermaid are gone) there is room for this and between BLUE and the Red Tower, this makes sense, and adds a lot of OK viewing.

Things the Puzzle me?
Having YELLOW fill in the circular area that was PD allows a lot more people into this area. However, instead of having 60-80 uncrowded PD viewers they have 300 very crowded into the area, because this is flat when the show starts 20-30 kids go up on sholders blocking the view behind!

PERFERRED DINING: Now only the very front has an excellant view, and holds only 40-50 viewers! The areas that are were BLUE are not the best & late arriving Guests that paid a lot of money, are shortchanged.

CAST TRAINING
WOC is one of the last places you would want to work, therefore it is mostly new less skilled Cast members. They are nice, but often have conflicting instructions and incomplete training. (Using Blue Fashlights to guide you to YELLOW, allowing Non-Handicapped to fill up the benches early, allowing kids on sholders, etc.) They allow nearly anyone to switch to another area. Since they take your colored pass when you enter, they have to depend on the honesty of the Guests (Bad Idea). This is especially bad in PD and Handicapped areas.

I don't know everything but observe a lot...
There are other items I did not mention because they are minor or I could not verify__
Eg: For the 2nd show they were having people with RED Fastpasses enter the Redwood Creek trail --- Is there an exit to the gates between the corndogs and Mermaid ride?
I definitely agree the non-fastpass standing area will stay; it was there when we went the beginning of May and the construction walls for Little Mermaid we still up. Can't lend my opinion to how I feel about any of the other changes since we didn't show up early and just grabbed a spot near the fire hydrant/VIP area. I will say it would be nice if they could adjust the size of the VIP area depending on how full it gets because there was a ton of unused space and apparently is the only area the CM's have sufficient training on who to let in.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:01 AM   #275
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Exclamation Dining and Fastpasses

Hello,
In high season (as in this coming Thursday ) how early does one need to be in order to get a WOC fastpass from the machines?
In addition, with either the regular fastpass or the preferred dining area, how early does one need to 'not wait' around that area to get a good spot? I am pretty short and want to be able to see!
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Hello,
In high season (as in this coming Thursday ) how early does one need to be in order to get a WOC fastpass from the machines?
In addition, with either the regular fastpass or the preferred dining area, how early does one need to 'not wait' around that area to get a good spot? I am pretty short and want to be able to see!
Did you read the first post?
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:33 PM   #277
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Old 07-05-2011, 08:16 PM   #278
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I have also posted something about this to the disability forum, but it is probably best to get the information into this thread.

They have moved all of the reserved wheelchair viewing and all of the ban he's to the very back. This was done soley for the CMs convenience. Don't believe me? Check out the YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SREvfKTimsI

Please pardon the video quality, I was holding on the conversation, not looking at the camera.

Please note that wheelchairs are allowed in all sections, but generally must enter at the same time as everyone else, who WILL run over people with canes, walkers, in wheel chairs, etc. We made a big enough stink that the boss of the lady in this video did at least allow our party to go in first (one person with a cane, one with a walker and me with a bum knee. Some would ask why wouldn't we rent wheelchairs or ECVs? The answer is the more we do for ourselves, the longer we all will be able to keep doing stuff for ourselves, the more we give in, the faster our bodies will give up, it's a basic fact of life). Unfortunately thus still meant that for my wife (who could not stand for the length of the show) that she still missed about 50% of the show.

Now, I could understand if somehow they were providing a safer experience or a better view, but they flat out admitted that it was for their convienence, so needless to say I am a little ticked. I am even more upset that we paid for a picnic lunch to get a good fast pass and my wife couldn't see a good portion of the show (even though she would have been able to do somhad they left things as they were previously).

Also, as for kids on people's shoulders, I specifically asked if they make sure that people do not put kids on their shoulders and was flat-out toldthat they are allowed to do so in all sections, well this further blocks the view of those in wheelchairs and that need the benches. This came from the boss of the lady in the video (I do have that recorded as wel, but have not posted it, as it was mostly him at least allowing us to go in first, which given the power he had was about the best I could expect him to do).
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Old 07-06-2011, 11:22 AM   #279
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Our first WOC

We attended the 9:00 show of WOC on June 23rd. We arrived at 8:15. All the railing spots were taken. We looked for the firehydrant spot but did not find it at first. Thankfully, once we spotted it, it was still available. My husband doubted wether this was going to be a good spot ot not and I assured him my Disboard friends would not let us down :-) The show was great and my husband said the spot was great as well. The girls could see fine because the people in front of us (on the other side of the fencing) were all sitting down on the benches. I don't feel like we missed anything- we had a great center view. Thanks so much for helping to make this a great experience for us!

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We attended the 9:00 show of WOC on June 23rd. We arrived at 8:15. All the railing spots were taken. We looked for the firehydrant spot but did not find it at first. Thankfully, once we spotted it, it was still available. My husband doubted wether this was going to be a good spot ot not and I assured him my Disboard friends would not let us down :-) The show was great and my husband said the spot was great as well. The girls could see fine because the people in front of us (on the other side of the fencing) were all sitting down on the benches. I don't feel like we missed anything- we had a great center view. I have attached a pic of our spot and one from the show. Thanks so much for helping to make this a great experience for us!



We saw the June 23 9PM WOC show too! We had preferred dining section that night.
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We attended the 9:00 show of WOC on June 23rd. We arrived at 8:15. All the railing spots were taken. We looked for the firehydrant spot but did not find it at first. Thankfully, once we spotted it, it was still available. My husband doubted wether this was going to be a good spot ot not and I assured him my Disboard friends would not let us down :-) The show was great and my husband said the spot was great as well. The girls could see fine because the people in front of us (on the other side of the fencing) were all sitting down on the benches. I don't feel like we missed anything- we had a great center view. Thanks so much for helping to make this a great experience for us!
I apologize if this covered somewhere else in this thread, but what section is the fire hydrant in? Being short people, this might be a good place for us.
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Early Entrance

I read in another thread that buying something at the store in the Grand Californian will get you early entrance to this park. As far as I can see in this thread, only staying at the hotel or dining there for breakfast will get you early entrance. I want to get my WOC FP ASAP, do I have to eat there or can I just buy something from the store and show them the receipt?
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I apologize if this covered somewhere else in this thread, but what section is the fire hydrant in? Being short people, this might be a good place for us.
It is covered in the very first thread. That is the starting point for all WOC info around here...
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I read in another thread that buying something at the store in the Grand Californian will get you early entrance to this park. As far as I can see in this thread, only staying at the hotel or dining there for breakfast will get you early entrance. I want to get my WOC FP ASAP, do I have to eat there or can I just buy something from the store and show them the receipt?
I have never heard about buying something at the store qualifying for early entry at the GCH.
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The official policy is that only guests staying on property may use that entrance until everyone else is let into the WOC entrance, then you may use the GCH entrance if any of the following apply (this is usually after 9:30, but sometimes may be restricted to resort guests only up until 11:00):
You have eaten at one of the hotels
You are staying onsite
You have already been inside California Adventure at least once that same day

Again, this is the official policy, you may occasionally find someone willing to bend the rules a little.
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