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Old 03-03-2011, 10:36 AM   #151
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A friend is going to DL and WOC next week (March 12th) and we're trying to help her plan her strategy. There are two shows that night - 8:00 and 9:15. She is considering doing any of the dining options, but can someone help us determine the timing for any of them? How early would she need to get there if she was doing a picnic? How much earlier for one of the dining packages?

I've read so much about it on the DIS and elsewhere, but I'm still confused. It seemed like people were suggesting an hour and a half to two hours prior to show time, but how does that work if it's the second show and within 45 minutes of the first show ending?

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:33 AM   #152
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A friend is going to DL and WOC next week (March 12th) and we're trying to help her plan her strategy. There are two shows that night - 8:00 and 9:15. She is considering doing any of the dining options, but can someone help us determine the timing for any of them? How early would she need to get there if she was doing a picnic? How much earlier for one of the dining packages?

I've read so much about it on the DIS and elsewhere, but I'm still confused. It seemed like people were suggesting an hour and a half to two hours prior to show time, but how does that work if it's the second show and within 45 minutes of the first show ending?

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One of the reasons people suggest different things is that WOC is a moving target for planning.

First questions that need answering:
  1. How important is it to have a good view of WOC?
  2. How much time is someone willing to wait?
  3. How much money are they willing to spend?
  4. How tall is the shortest person in your group?
With those answered you can move on to wait times for the show.

It is my personal opinion that WOC is worth a long wait to get a good viewing spot. Other people do not agree and thus would suggest something different.

If you want a slam dunk, for sure good spot, here is what you need to do:

1. Find out the good spots to view from each section (see the OP)

2. Decide whether you want to get preferred viewing thru dining and pay the money for that.

3. Get to the WOC queueing area 90 minutes before the show.

4. Be assertive (some would say aggressive ) in moving your group from the queue to the viewing area and to a good viewing spot.

5. Once at the viewing spot enlist your entire group to hold that spot. Otherwise people kind of creep into your spot and if you let them creep in front of you then you could lose your good view.


OK, let's say you would like to get a good view but you are OK if you don't.

Then do everything itemized above except show up 60 minutes early.

Finally, let's say you want to try for a good spot but only have 30 minutes to wait in line and are willing to chance a poor spot.

In this case do not do the preferred dining. That is only worth it if you queue at least 60 minutes early (I would say 90). If you get a blue WOC FP go to the fire hydrant spot (see the OP for info on this). If you get a red FP try for a wet zone spot down front (see the OP). If you get a yellow FP I am not sure you can get a decent spot by queueing 30 minutes early. So I would say don't try it but someone else may have a different experience here.

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:46 AM   #153
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I definitely second on the "be aggressive" notion. There have been far too many times where I have a perfect spot on the railing going into the transfer of line to section, but once the show time rolls around, kids around my height or a little shorter (we're talking like 1" - 2", as I'm only 5'1" ) and then my view is obstructed for the show. And I wasn't even asked if they could stand in front of me, they just pushed through and took the spot like many self-entitled people would do If the kids were younger and smaller and really needed to be in front, I'm more than willing to have them stand in front of me. I know of prefer that oddly enough, as I love watching their faces light up with delight during the show Well, the moral of the story is stand your ground!! I'm too timid to do that in a public setting like that, and it's left me bummed for the rest of the night. But that's enough negativity for this morning!! You're going to have an amazing time

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Old 03-03-2011, 12:22 PM   #154
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Thanks for the feedback - so excited to see WOC!

Your suggestions will help a lot, I'm sure. In terms of queuing an hour beforehand though, is there a separate holding area on nights when the two shows are pretty close together? (I'm thinking like the queue area for Fantasmic! at WDW vs. Fantasmic! at DL, where it's just open space.)

I've gotta get those maps of viewing areas printed out!
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Thanks for the feedback - so excited to see WOC!

Your suggestions will help a lot, I'm sure. In terms of queuing an hour beforehand though, is there a separate holding area on nights when the two shows are pretty close together? (I'm thinking like the queue area for Fantasmic! at WDW vs. Fantasmic! at DL, where it's just open space.)

I've gotta get those maps of viewing areas printed out!
No unfortunately not. In DHS the F! ampitheater is set away from everything opening up some space. In DCA paradise park is right off the parade route, so they just seperate each viewing group into a holding area on the pathway. Then when the first show is done DCA has to empty the crowd back onto the parade route where the next shows viewers are waiting in their holding areas.

Because both shows use roughly the same holding areas the second show has a shorter wait just like with DHS's F!.


When you get the showpasses if it is the first show it will show a return time window of 45 minutes, a little after the window opens people are allowed into Paradise Park to claim spots. For the second show the return window is only 30 minutes long and people are allowed into the viewing area right away. So the key is really being in the holding areas right before the return time begins and make your way to the front to get into the park right away. Then when you get into the park know where good spots are and make your way behind a rail.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:57 PM   #156
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For those interested, this is the view from the Cove Bar where I watched World of Color on Sunday, February 27th. I do not recommend this location for your first experience, but it was a nice way for hubby and I to see it again without standing in line. The Cove Bar does charge a $10 cover per person if you stay to watch the show, but that wasn't a big deal to us since we wanted to finish our drinks anyway.

Last call for drinks was at 7:45pm if I remember correctly. The show began at 8:15pm.



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Old 03-07-2011, 05:15 PM   #157
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We just saw WoC for the first time on March 3rd and we did the Picnic Option. We got tickets for the Blue section and we showed up about an hour before the show and were able to get good spots against the rail (not on the bridge). We couldn't see the far end of the show but that didn't really take anything away from our experience.

I thought the picnic option was good in our situation since we didn't arrive to the park until later in the day and that was the only day we could have seen the show. $16 for a meal and not having to stand in line for FP was well worth it. The food was decent, nothing great.

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Thank you for all of the great reports. We'll be there at the end of April. I assume that the later show will be less crowded? We are staying at the DLH and can take advantage of the early gate through the GC. But I'm reading that when you go early you'll get tickets to the early show. I'm not quite sure what our strategy should be if we want the later show.
We're also up for eating dinner at Ariel's Grotto or Wine Country Trattoria. Does anyone have an opinion on which restaurant they prefer? We ate lunch with characters at Ariel's a few years ago. We are just adults on this trip. Thanks.
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Thank you for all of the great reports. We'll be there at the end of April. I assume that the later show will be less crowded? We are staying at the DLH and can take advantage of the early gate through the GC. But I'm reading that when you go early you'll get tickets to the early show. I'm not quite sure what our strategy should be if we want the later show.
We're also up for eating dinner at Ariel's Grotto or Wine Country Trattoria. Does anyone have an opinion on which restaurant they prefer? We ate lunch with characters at Ariel's a few years ago. We are just adults on this trip. Thanks.
Pretty much all the WOC shows are packed so no real advantage to second show.

You are right if you want second show FPs then the early use of GCH entrance has no value.

We have only done AG and WCT once each. Our preference is AG but they are both pretty good. For WOC dining most folks seem to prefer AG.
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Do they allow people to sit while waiting? DD and I would be perfectly fine standing, but DH and DS would be complainers. If no sitting is allowed, we'll just have to leave them at the hotel.
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Yes. You only have to stand during the show.
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Yes. You only have to stand during the show.
Although please do be careful. When everyone is rushing in to grab a good spot, it might be dangerous for you to be sitting on the ground in the dark! In my experience from the five or six times I've seen the show, most people are standing.
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Although please do be careful. When everyone is rushing in to grab a good spot, it might be dangerous for you to be sitting on the ground in the dark! In my experience from the five or six times I've seen the show, most people are standing.
Of course you do not sit when everyone is rushing in. After the crowd around you has settled then sitting down works.
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Seriously, some local UC campus should offer a masters degree in planning for this show!

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I guess as the OP I qualify since I do in fact have a Masters Degree from UCSB. Maybe they did teach me something after all!
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